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Trigger Warning Night of LSD tripping went horribly wrong

there's not even a remote chance id ever wanna be around that person again while they're tripping on anything


something else along those line, will happen again with that same person if they continue


you might not wanna believe there's something wrong with this person, because you love them, and that's understandable

but im telling you right now, no doubt about it, there's some loose screws up there
 
There is actually no scientifically correlation to LSD and schizophrenia. It was just real good acid.
Scientific evidence or not, I have known several people that have been diagnosed with schizophrenia.
Before they were diagnosed, I tripped with some of them.
None of them reacted normally to the LSD and all of them had problems after the trip.

You husband has a higher chance to develop schizophrenia as his mother has it.
He should never tough a psychedelic or stim drug again.
 
yea im not sure where she's getting her information from but a simple search will show you this right off the bat:



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and ive seen it too

otherwise i wouldn't say it
 
He should never tough a psychedelic or stim drug again.
Honestly asides from the justification of the increased chance of schizophrenia in general, the fact of having ever had an adverse reaction like OP described, homie should keep it to depressants at the most, but even most depressants have adverse effects. What's sleepier than benzos but xanax has made a lot of people do stupid shit, you know? It can be tough to tell. I bet even Rohypnol has some wild actions it's caused, nonetheless OP please stay safe and your husband should probably abstain from drugs outside of what medical authorities prescribe, in general.
 
This is incredibly scary and so difficult for anyone to comment on. There is likely history and elements of the story that are missing which would play catalysing functions.

1. 8 tabs is an extremely high dose and can result in unpredictable reactions.
2. Doing LSD alone at high doses is never recommended.

Why people continue to dose way above the recommended 100-300mcg range is beyond me.
 
yea im not sure where she's getting her information from but a simple search will show you this right off the bat:



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and ive seen it too

otherwise i wouldn't say it
I think it can be due to what you search.
I think LSD is not known to cause schizophrenia, but only to exacerbate symptoms and/or precipitate the first episode in people with family history.
This has also been my experience.
 
I find LSD most rewarding between 1-5mg personally, I think it just varies person to person.
I have tried 660ug and 750ug twice each, and found the experience chill/trouble free.
Do visuals become stronger as you go past 1mg?
 
There's a part of me that really isn't sure about the loose screws conclusion. It seems plausible that there's a qualitative difference between a drinker who becomes abusive after just a few drinks and someone who does so on potentially north of 2.5 mg of LSD in terms of the degree to which 'true selves' are being revealed: moderate disinhibition in the former case leaving previously self-censored thoughts and actions to bubble up versus a temporary but radical revision of brain dynamics in the second. Who knows, maybe the fusiform gyrus had its functional connectivity reduced to nothing amidst the serotonin storm such that face recognition evaporated, and a now unrecognised being in an unrecognised place was now perceived (very wrongly and unfortunately) as a threat.

This said, I simply don't have the experience with extreme doses of acid to have observed introspectively the direction in which the winds of mental dynamics might blow, and merely high doses (where I do believe that actions reflect character) haven't suggested any trend towards anything resembling the above. Nor is it something I've seen in megadosers I've been with mid-trip (or BL's very own megadosers here, apparently), and I'd rather go off experience (first and third person) than speculative neuroscience. So who knows.
 
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Do visuals become stronger as you go past 1mg?
They get more phenethylamine-like. A lot more dissociation occurs, falling into your own mind watching past events break apart into infinite waterefalls of concentric cubes, recomposing into whimsical circuits of emotionality and perception and shit. It's super far beyond articulation, but once you're over 1-1.5mg LSD's visuals are a lot more like if mushrooms could induce full DMT breakthrough shit, with its own LSD-like, more phenethylamine-y flavor.
 
I've taken too much - I still didn't wanna bash anybody's head in that I live with, while they're sleeping, not even bothering you, and i didn't need the cops to be called to get me off of anybody while i seemed possessed

Really good acid and too much acid just shouldn't do that to anybody with a full deck
 
I think it can be due to what you search.
I think LSD is not known to cause schizophrenia, but only to exacerbate symptoms and/or precipitate the first episode in people with family history.
This has also been my experience.

and that's all im saying

im not saying it's causing it at all


but something's not right in your head and you shouldn't play with your head if you found out that it's not all there and/or fully equipped to be toyed with like that
 
but something's not right in your head and you shouldn't play with your head if you found out that it's not all there and/or fully equipped to be toyed with like that
Exactly, total control over one's actions can be mastered and is a must.. I mean tripping is like surfing It takes practice with smaller amounts first. Then go for bigger waves of once comfortable and mastered. Amount of dose counts too. Rock climbers go slow too. This is like rock climbing of the mind. Starts slow and needs a skill to it. This person truly needs to confront what happened that night and it is not light. He can get past it but no LSD for now. Where was he? Some people just should not trip too. Not saying that is this guy for good, but for now yes I am.
Why people continue to dose way above the recommended 100-300mcg range is beyond me.
For me personally I agree with this. And when I was younger I could gobble acid. In an organized way. Like if 3 days in a row I would do 2-4-8 or 1-3-5. Onetime I did 2-4-28. (king tuts '82). What I found for myself is I understood how Einstein' theory of relativity factored in. I was tripping hard on 28. But I also was so far out I was right back where I started. It showed me it was unnecessary to take that much and 150-300 mcg took me out there more than the larger amount. (it took me a few years of large dosing to finally learn haha but I did) Even though on the larger amount had some doubled down visuals that were totally cool. Visuals within the visuals. But that is the only benefit I saw. A nice 150 mcg with some weed and I am out as far as I want to go. And these days a couple every few years. Not much. My nervous system and large call to family duty at this time can only handle it sparingly. I am the guy that dropped hits at work when much much younger too. I have totally tamed. In fact mushrooms are what I can handle at the moment.
 
I think it’s pretty obvious he shouldn’t be tripping if he’s mother is schizophrenic it pretty common sense , okay tripping once but pushing your lack by pushing dosages that’s is like asking for it from the time that DNA is involved.
I wish from the bottom of my heart to this not be the start for something bigger. He shouldn’t trip again ever you should discuss with him and watch him closely and seek mental medical assistance.
 
If you dont feel comfortable in your own suit of armor you wont be able to unsheathe the sword which is the only thing that protects you

or
just get out there
and run off the paranoia
 
I'm wondering what happened. I probably shouldn't even at this point.


Something triggered him ... or made him snap. Sorry for mentioning this and I probably shouldn't be.

But ....

I have heard of this so many times and have heard of this before. It is like a black eye syndrome related to some type of

rage, yeah. Maybe it's how people kill. And it does happen to the nicest people ... or people that are nice.

I don't even know if there is even a name for it. There are many people that this happens to.

I started to read about it at one point and have actually over the years been hearing over and again how

someone's eyes just turned completely black and hollow and you can't see their pupil just blackness and rage.

I mean I would just hear it so much from time to time. Until one day I realized how real this actually is

and the weirdest part about it is. People say they look possessed. Well that's not the weirdest part.

The weirdest is .... that they don't even remember a thing about it at all. Nothing. Not anything. A lot of them

just think it's someone just making up a story.

It seems to be triggered by something like a type of emotion that causes personal adversity and conflict

... and most of it seems to be from a strong anger or rage looming in their emotions.

Anyway I don't know too much about it and I just quit reading about it because it was just to horrifying and scary

to even think about or want to. But I wondered and thought it was quite interesting to find out the reason why.

But there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of information about the stories that do happen.

I'm not even really sure what it would be called but it is some kind of black eyes syndrome ...

or definitely an occurrence caused from inside and from something within. It's just about their eyes turning black

for some reason and them wanting harm or kill.

So I don't think that the acid could have caused that because it happens to others that do not take acid also

or in fact were not even on acid.


.... And when you are on acid .... don't you remember it !!! That's why it is taken for the trip and the trip reports mean

that they can remember.

These others though whose eyes turn black. They don't ever remember a thing. Nothing. Their mind leaves

and they flip into being something else that can attack with the intention to kill. I mean they do. And it happens.

And some of them find out about it by accident or coincidence. So unless something significant happens because

of it, they don't even know.


You have to be very lucky or in the right places and have the right timing to actually pull up information about this

but it is really weird and seems really weird too, not to have a whole lot of information to pull up about the

whole subject. And also who would really want to have that kind of mindset and interest to focus on an evil

sickening occurrence that manifests from whatever causes this to happen from within.

I am just saying. It is out there and it does happen. The black pupil eyes and violence that happens with it.

Sorry but when someone's eyes turn all black and they don't look like themselves and .... then don't

remember anything at all about it even happening seems to be a quite and extreme disorder for some reason.

And does happen to others and has happened before according to the times I had read literature explaining this.

I was looking into it at one time. But why should I. But I have just randomly heard it before and occasionally did keep

hearing at times again about this. Even read it about Bundy as an extreme case but ....

Sorry. Just hope to never have to go or be around this type of behavior .... or what ever it is. More like an episode that

may need to be addressed.



Anyway, I was kind of fascinated about the black eyes ' happening ' at one point. And yes it is real and

is being caused by something, like anger.


And as far as the taser situation. That might have been because of all of the drugs that I think he had in his system

yes. If I read correct he did do other drugs too. But I will read it again.

But the black eyes and the not remembering. No I don't believe that was caused by the acid.


Especially not the acid. But I am not saying it won't happen again. But please do be careful now.

But yes, the black eyes and the not remembering was something I started to look into but

it did get too horrible at one point.


They seem to want to actually kill the person that they are around and have completely no memory of it

at all. It's been documented. Like a fit of rage. So the same black eyes, rage, and lack of memory does in fact happen to others.

From many different places all over it does and has happened to others that have lived to tell and vent of their personal attacks

from this very vile behavior.


And then so many are just left not understanding why or what the

cause is. I really shouldn't have made this post because it really doesn't have anything to do with the drug.

It's about the behavior that occurs and the eyes that turn completely black. And you can no longer see the pupil.

I kind of just wanted to keep it to myself because it is just a way of understanding behavior ( so to speak )

Or just a selective understanding in general to actually just know about it.

But the eyes do turn all black. The creepiest shit ever. But now I do feel really bad because I am reading about it again

and they are never really nice stories. Or should I say real life stories. And sincerely, Good Luck. Maybe it was just something

deep inside him. Obviously when your eyes get black like that there is a reason. And traumatic enough to not

even want to remember or care to or actually want to bother with the reasoning.

Anyway, Sorry that I went and commented but I just wanted to say that could not have been just from acid then because

it does happen anyway without it.

Okay. And I am really sorry that it happened sincerely, whatever caused it. I hope he gets better. I really do.

Because that is very deep down hostility and rage coming from .... somewhere. Most likely their very own

personal mind.

Okay just be safe. And I am glad you knew how to survive and get help asap. Take Care. So Sorry, again.

I really don't know if I could look into it anymore. And I don't really. But from what I have read so far .... It's Real.

Sorry for being pro drug and vouching for the acid .... but that wasn't what acid does. So weird.

Really, I do hope that never ever does happen again. I don't know the cause but there are incidents that happen

like these. Please be careful. Take care.
 
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I find LSD most rewarding between 1-5mg personally, I think it just varies person to person.
hopefully you did not just stumble on this but that by titrating up you discovered this about yourself.
in regards to harm reduction, this would be a bad starting point to recommend to anyone even if they were a hardhead like you.
 
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