NEWS: Nurofen + etc to be made Prescription only!!!

[Aegis]

Does the sale of combination analgesics containing codeine need to be recorded?

As yet, there are no national requirements for the recording of sales for non-prescription combination analgesics containing codeine, however, there may be a State or Territory requirement. If unsure, it is best to confirm arrangements with the relevant State or Territory authority.

The Pharmaceutical Society of Australia believes recording S3 drug administration is best practice and has been lobbying for this to become mandatory, so some pharmacies follow this practice.

 

[belarki]

^ I don't think it would have been the APAP, it sounds more like something to do with low blood pressure to me.



Going back to high school?

Or I'm dyscalculic?

I'm a qualified highschool maths teacher; I'll help you out if you ever need tutoring buddy

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ The most maths I use these days - or used to - is counting out the tablets from the bottle into the water.

 

[belarki]

^ the same as the rest of Australia, all codeine containing meds are now S3.

 

[Aegis]

Whats the Situation in Western Australia right now? I was looking forward to buying some as soon as i get back from South America in June. Before i left (November) i used to be able to Buy 24 pill Iburofen packs with 12 mg codiene for next to nothing, without questions asked or anything. Please my Western Australian Codeine users, Inform me if there has be a change for the worse!

The laws are National, just ask for a pack of 30 and be prepared to justify the purchase to the pharmacist

 

[drug_mentor]

Man none of these pharmacists know shit. I went into a pharmacy last night to buy codeine, I got a 100 pack of codalgin from this same pharmacy on May 1st, I remember the date cause I thought it was odd they sold a 100 pack when that was the date for the new regulations to start. Anyway on the 1st I got the 2nd last 100 pack, could see the other on the shelf. Went in last night and they still had the 100 pack but refused to sell it, the pharmacist told me 24 packs of codalgin were script only but she could sell me panadeine. I explained how they contained the same ingredients and the only difference was the name and the cost but she refused to sell codalgin. Was she just trying to cheat me out of some money or what? I mean I would of thought someone intelligent enough to become a pharmacist would know that shit made no sense.

Went to another pharmacy and ended up being ambushed by like 4 employees because apparently I buy codeine there "every three days," even though in reality its once every week or two. If I played it cool I probably would of walked out with some panafen but they really pissed me off and I made a bit of a scene. They are pretty perceptive, I have a friend who comes on codeine runs with me and they recognised her aswell, although they let her walk out with the shit then when I tried to buy it said they knew she was my sister and buying it for me, neither is true but obviously they noticed us buying codeine at similar times every week or two.

Its so shit, I had a big argument with the pharmacist about how its legal and OTC and I shouldn't need a rectal exam, he starts talking about ethical obligations and blah blah blah. I just think its ridiculous some judgemental faggot behind a counter has the right to over rule my decision to put a virtually benign, legal product in my body.

 

[swilow]

^Why would a pharmacist put their business at risk just cos you want to get high? I am friends with a pharmacist, and he still supplies large amounts of codeine; but thats because he gets thehomebake rewards. Not many pharmies WANT to do this: they make tons of money of codeine products- but they HAVE to.

If you need opiates, go to ER and explain that you are addicted. They will help.

 

[Mr Blonde]

drug mentor: The problem is though a lot of people are using it in a non-benign and non-legal way.

Taking heaps of it without a CWE is very damaging and a lot of people were doing that.

And if you do a CWE, then you are very possibly guilty of possessing a scheduled substance (codeine on it's own is Sch. VIII I believe).

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

Mr Blonde is correct, they have a duty of care and as soon as you are extracting the codeine, you are breaking the law.

I would do the same in the pharmacists position.

I wouldn't want to risk my job so someone I don't know can get high.

 

[drug_mentor]

^ I never said I was extracting it, I said I was using the correct amounts and for the frequency I purchased it there they had no basis to say anything different. They accused me of purchasing codeine from there atleast 3 times more regularly than I do and also of putting someone else to purchase it for me which I haven't. They pulled a bunch of accusations out there ass, while it is true I buy codeine at that pharmacy with some regularity it is certainly not more than the label says is appropriate.

What about the other pharmacy? I KNOW codalgin is not a different schedule than panadeine but it is about half the cost for the same active ingredients that also happen to filter quicker. I mean to me that is just a blatant attempt to get more money out of me. There is no way a pharmacist is dumb enough to believe the name brand product is OTC while the generic is a script.

I do understand the pharmacists have a job to do and a duty of care, legal responsibility, etc. It is not so much the refusal to sell me a product that I take issue with, I take issue with the fucking condescending manner in which they question me, the accusatory tone in their voice and in this case blatantly untrue accusations being made. It would be one thing to just say sorry mate but I am not putting my job at risk, its another to fucking demean me and attempt to embarass me in front of the whole pharmacy.

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

That's what pharmacists do

Who buys codeine containing medicines weekly unless they are addicted to it?

You admitted you frequent that pharmacy, even though it wasn't as often as they stated.

I'd be pissed in your position too but just go and find another pharmacy, Melbourne is full of them.

I love how I get turned down or asked for ID in my hippy threads, but if I rock in with a nice shirt on they will throw me as many packs as I want.

They certainly are quick to judge

 

[Crankinit]

I'd say in short man you're drawing way too much attention to yourself. Turning up at the same pharmacy with the same person making purchases at regular intervals, requesting specific brands etc. It's not hard to put 2 + 2 together, and with the recent changes the abuse potential is going to be on their mind.

The whole thing about generic/brand name is just stupid though, nfi why she'd say that, except just to be difficult. Personally I never request specific brand names, I just ask for a generic version, maybe throwing in a comment about it being cheaper.

Who buys codeine containing medicines weekly unless they are addicted to it?

People with legitimate pain?

 

[Mr Blonde]

drug mentor I can't see anywhere in your post that said you were using it legitimately at the recommended levels, in fact it seemed the opposite given you bought a 100 pack less then a week ago.

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

People with legitimate pain?

Most people with serious pain would be going to the doctor for something with more bang, not taking piss weak 10mg codeine per pill meds

1 week on such OTC meds would render them useless for pain

Making buying such meds in a weekly manner less than plausible

Which brings us back to the reason why D_M was knocked back at his local

 

[Crankinit]

Most people with serious pain would be going to the doctor for something with more bang, not taking piss weak 10mg codeine per pill meds

1 week on such OTC meds would render them useless for pain

Making buying such meds in a weekly manner less than plausible

Which brings us back to the reason why D_M was knocked back at his local

They're a lot better than nothing, getting some kind of legitimate pain management can be hard if you fit a certain profile (young and male), have a condition without a tangible diognosis that can be found on an xray or blood test, or have a doctor who's strongly opposed to opiate use. I was munching a ton of them for medical purposes well before the thought of extracting codeine or using them for recreational purposes ever crossed my mind, but because I fall under all of the above catagories, getting an actual prescription for pain medication has been a real chore, despite a protracted history of medical problems and a year of completely ineffective physiotherapy.

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

I suffer from back pain due to a car accident/way too much heavy lifting and i'm surprised that the OTC meds relieved little if any of your pain. You must have a very low opiate tolerance.

I know how hard it can be to get pain meds but I found that when I spilled my knowledge about drugs to the doc and fully explained my situation, most of them came good with scripts for strong pain relief meds.

I found opium tea's to be the best reliever for me and now days I only use pain meds recreationally as they don't work over long periods of time and it's best to accept the pain IMHO

 

[drug_mentor]

Mr Blonde I WAS abusing the codeine, I informed the pharmacist that I was only taking the reccomeded doses. My purchase frequency there wouldn't indicate I was consuming any more than it says to on the label, its like 2 or 3 times a month and its not always big packs and its not always the same people working. I could of been taking them legitimately and still ran out in that time so what basis do they have to accuse me of abuse?

I don't see whats so suss about requesting specific brands, if I don't know the pharmacy I will just ask for a generic but when I know what brand the pharmacy stocks I am aswell to ask, its not as if they don't know I have bought it before.

My friend isn't always with me and its not like we usually walk in together or anything. What pissed me off even more is that my friend happens to be a good looking chick and the cunt sold her a fucking packet right before refusing me and telling me he thought she was my sister and buying it for me etc. so its like its ok to abuse it if your a good looking chick but turn me down 5 seconds later? Its a load of shit, not that I am complaining she got her pills but just the bias. I mean if they had never mentioned us being in cahootz it would be one thing but she was served 2 places before me and they saw me in line, thats blatant bullshit imho.

Regardless of all the bullshit, I don't feel as though I am doing anything wrong and whilst I do understand their point of view I really don't appreciate being approached in that manner about it and what shits me is every pharmacist has that condescending attitude, they really are pricks.

 

[Crankinit]

I suffer from back pain due to a car accident/way too much heavy lifting and i'm surprised that the OTC meds relieved little if any of your pain. You must have a very low opiate tolerance.

They don't anymore, hell 500mg of codeine is only just enough now, but they did for a while back when I first started taking them. Of course by the end the relief they provided was minimal, but at that stage I'd started CWEing whenever it was bad anyway.

I know how hard it can be to get pain meds but I found that when I spilled my knowledge about drugs to the doc and fully explained my situation, most of them came good with scripts for strong pain relief meds.

I guess I've just been unlucky then? The doctor who's overseen me over the last few years is strongly opposed to opiates, and the specialist I saw when I first became sick was fairly useless when it came to the pain. I've never bothered seeing another doctor since I figured the fact that I'm seeing someone new with no referral would set off red flags.

That said I'm fairly sure I'm going to just try my luck with another doctor anyway. The extent to which I'm able to self medicate with codeine and street drugs has been outweighed by the extent to which the pain interfers with my life (particularly sleep and study) for some time now. I'm just not sure how to go about it.

I found opium tea's to be the best reliever for me and now days I only use pain meds recreationally as they don't work over long periods of time and it's best to accept the pain IMHO

Opium tea? Prepared from pods or seeds? I've tried the seed tea but it was useless, by the time it offered any analgesia I'd taken in so many of the other alkaloids that the shitty side effects outweighed the benefits. Never been able to access the pods.

 

[hyroller]

drug_mentor - it's because women are believed to be more trustworthy than men, on the whole

I scored 5 packets of pseudo-based cold n flu medication in the one day, once upon a time (in the last 6 months), and was only once asked to present my ID for purchase.

mind you, being legitimately sick at the time did help.

too bad some idiot flogged my stockpile & the effort was all in vain

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

I'd be careful about admitting to pseudo running missy

Damn you cute and innocent looking girls

You get everything with 'that look'