I agree with the feeling of my brain frying when combining meth and mdma. Personally its a shit combo. You get stuck in this weird type of high where you cant really feel the full effects of the meth or mdma. Kinda stuck halfway between them but never feeling either 100%. Its hard to explain.
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News: Ecstasy damages complex memory: study
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I agree with the feeling of my brain frying when combining meth and mdma. Personally its a shit combo. You get stuck in this weird type of high where you cant really feel the full effects of the meth or mdma. Kinda stuck halfway between them but never feeling either 100%. Its hard to explain.
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tyrael
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Regarding piperazines, there has been quite extensive research in this chemical. It is often used in medicine. Having said that, I totally agree with research in common adulterants like 4MMC and the like.
Have you been through (multiple/higher) Uni degrees and utilising those skills learnt in your profession? Try that and see if we don't NEED to remember half the shit that we do.
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
I know I do!
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Have you been through (multiple/higher) Uni degrees and utilising those skills learnt in your profession? Try that and see if we don't NEED to remember half the shit that we do.
hahaha. There lies the rub.
chemi
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Goddamn
really? Memory is one of the most important things a human being can have...chitowndown
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mali mali mali mali
tyrael
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Right, re-read. Epic fail on my part! Lol.
8)Guess I should be laying off the benzos for a bit, think they're making me slow. Lol)
hyroller
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Goddamn
Agreed. In the beginning, I used to keep a tally of all the drugs I took and when. lol
Kept it up for a good 9 months too, mind you! :D
chemi
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^ haha I did exactly the same thing I didn't keep it up for quite that long, only 4 months :D
I didn't keep it up for quite that long, only 4 months :D
hyroller
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I remember when I could still list off all the different pill presses I'd taken
LOL
If I thought long n hard enough about it, I honestly think I could
Having a photographic memory helps, hehe
Spewing I abandoned my little record upon getting stuck into the shards hammer n tongs - it seemed like a good idea at the time
Mr Ibis: of the last 10 different pills consumed, only one was a piperazine and the rest were MDXX. I say MDXX as you can never really know for sure but given the results that I am familiar with, I will make an educated guess and say that most were MDMA.
The brown euros, which did test up as MDA, were different. They seemed to "do more" than other pills have done over recent years but it was a different feeling. So the subjective experience on those ones was born out by the results.
The off-white hearts with the score were the best of the recent lot, and again there are results for these, being just over 100mg. With those results it is not surprising that they were the best.
I believe one of the main problems is the magic is long gone and I don't believe 150mg of 95% molly would be anything more than a "very decent pill" these days. Certainly for me it would not be as good as even half decent beans were in the early years. I have seen people new to the experience with classic MDMA symptoms on many of the pills which have come and gone in the last couple of years.
Other than that, I suspect that the problems with pills these days (excluding the emergence of these dreadul piperazines, which is the worst development in the consumption of "ecstasy" that I have seen in 12 years), is largely the dosage and the purity/quality of the MDMA powder going into the pills.
If you had 100mg of 50% pure meth, that was not cut down with some inert binder so that the other 50% was what was leftover from the reaction, and 50mg of 100% pure meth, I guarantee the feeling and effects of the drug would be different. This is despite the amount of meth you have consumed being the same.
Take this case which is making news atm, probably around the country, as the conspirators are about to be sentenced:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/6595695/quaid-faces-life-in-jail-for-drug-conspiracy/
It concerns the importation and intended pressing of some 44kg of MDMA powder. There is no way that those dealing in 44kg would be accepting powder that was deliberately cut down. However, the article confirms this powder was only 80% pure. So what on earth was the other 20% and god knows what it would do to you.
The days of 95%+ MDMA powder produced in the Netherlands and being pressed into beautiful pills in large factories that would make a pharmaceutical company blush are long gone. That is the problem. The drug is the same but the pills are ultimately different.
The brown euros, which did test up as MDA, were different. They seemed to "do more" than other pills have done over recent years but it was a different feeling. So the subjective experience on those ones was born out by the results.
The off-white hearts with the score were the best of the recent lot, and again there are results for these, being just over 100mg. With those results it is not surprising that they were the best.
I believe one of the main problems is the magic is long gone and I don't believe 150mg of 95% molly would be anything more than a "very decent pill" these days. Certainly for me it would not be as good as even half decent beans were in the early years. I have seen people new to the experience with classic MDMA symptoms on many of the pills which have come and gone in the last couple of years.
Other than that, I suspect that the problems with pills these days (excluding the emergence of these dreadul piperazines, which is the worst development in the consumption of "ecstasy" that I have seen in 12 years), is largely the dosage and the purity/quality of the MDMA powder going into the pills.
If you had 100mg of 50% pure meth, that was not cut down with some inert binder so that the other 50% was what was leftover from the reaction, and 50mg of 100% pure meth, I guarantee the feeling and effects of the drug would be different. This is despite the amount of meth you have consumed being the same.
Take this case which is making news atm, probably around the country, as the conspirators are about to be sentenced:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/6595695/quaid-faces-life-in-jail-for-drug-conspiracy/
It concerns the importation and intended pressing of some 44kg of MDMA powder. There is no way that those dealing in 44kg would be accepting powder that was deliberately cut down. However, the article confirms this powder was only 80% pure. So what on earth was the other 20% and god knows what it would do to you.
The days of 95%+ MDMA powder produced in the Netherlands and being pressed into beautiful pills in large factories that would make a pharmaceutical company blush are long gone. That is the problem. The drug is the same but the pills are ultimately different.
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While I can't say more without knowing exactly which field you work in, I still maintain that your results don't reflect the current market. What you're describing sounds like the ecstasy market as it was 12 - 24 months ago, but there has been a huge, huge dive in quality since then. Speaking for myself, I've sampled 5 different batches in recent months, and not one of them contained a noticeable dose of MDMA.
Also worth mentioning is that this is in Adelaide, and by all accounts the market in Sydney is in much better shape than that in the rest of the country (but still far worse than 24 months ago), so if you're taking your samples from there, that might also explain the difference. But it shouldn't be assumed to represent the country as a whole.
Also worth mentioning is that this is in Adelaide, and by all accounts the market in Sydney is in much better shape than that in the rest of the country (but still far worse than 24 months ago), so if you're taking your samples from there, that might also explain the difference. But it shouldn't be assumed to represent the country as a whole.
I have always made it clear that the results lag a good 6 months behind, so they do not reflect the current market.
I don't think anyone can assume anything when it comes to these things and I agree that the quality overall would change depending on the region. It has always been like that.
I just found it interesting that the article mentioned something that was consistent with what has been communicated to me over the last few years, but rarely believed by the vast majority of people, especially on here.
What were the last 5 ones that you had? I will ask if those have been tested.
I don't think anyone can assume anything when it comes to these things and I agree that the quality overall would change depending on the region. It has always been like that.
I just found it interesting that the article mentioned something that was consistent with what has been communicated to me over the last few years, but rarely believed by the vast majority of people, especially on here.
What were the last 5 ones that you had? I will ask if those have been tested.