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Newcomers - Cold Water Extraction: Method Do's & Don'ts

If you follow the process correctly, you will remove the vast of majority of the ibuprofen. If you're totally opiate naive, don't go over 100mg (even that would be too much for some). Codeine effects very hugely from person to person, so start low and work your way up.
 
curious_24 said:
If you follow the process correctly, you will remove the vast of majority of the ibuprofen. If you're totally opiate naive, don't go over 100mg (even that would be too much for some). Codeine effects very hugely from person to person, so start low and work your way up.
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Thank you very much. I have used Kratom tincture (full spectrum) and for me, I tend to get very nauseous nowadays and as I usually have 4 or 5 solpadeine max, I enjoy them but this must be battering my liver and therefore I am going to stop the kratom and try this. Can you tell me if codeine (in higher doses) has a nauseous effect?
 
The only thing that ever makes me slightly nauseous is cweing paramol, which is dihydrocodeine.

I think you do right by choosing n+ to start with. It's a lot easier to filter as ibuprofen isn't soluble in even hot water, plus it's not as big a deal if you do happen to get some in the mix.
 
Hi there, been away but I'm finally having a go at this.
I have some N+ which are Codeine/Ibruprofen and I have crushed up 8 of these which is just under 100mg of codeine. I have no filters but I do have some strong kitchen towels.
If I just use a little bit of water (3 eggcups full, or do i need more???) and mix thoroughly with very cold water............do I filter straight away and drink straight away or do i have to refridgerate first? Also, will 8 of these be enough?
 
If you've never done it before, you might want to do 8 to make sure you're not going to react badly, but I wouldn't be suprised if you feel nowt. First time I did it, it was 16 and I just about felt it.

You can get away with using more water than that as it's ibuprofen you're dealing with, which is basically insoluble (unlike paracetamol). Remember, the less water you use, the more likely it is that the codeine will be filtered out. You don't need to worry about using too much water with ibuprofen, it makes no difference.
 
spudgun said:
If you've never done it before, you might want to do 8 to make sure you're not going to react badly, but I wouldn't be suprised if you feel nowt. First time I did it, it was 16 and I just about felt it.

You can get away with using more water than that as it's ibuprofen you're dealing with, which is basically insoluble (unlike paracetamol). Remember, the less water you use, the more likely it is that the codeine will be filtered out. You don't need to worry about using too much water with ibuprofen, it makes no difference.
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Much obliged, I will give it a go now and will report back later.
 
Only used a little water and only did 8 so virtually, no effect. I will use more water next time and with 16, hopefully, that way I will get results. As Spudgun suggested, I should have used more water.
 
I've tried a few different methods of CWE and this is the one that works best for me:

Take your tabs, in my case 6 x 30/500 Zapain caplets, make a paper wrap, place the tabs inside and gently hit several times both sides with a a hammer.

Open the paper wrap and its pure powder, pour this into a 1 cup cafetiere, so it has a spout to easy pour

then get a bottle of volvic out the fridge thats been in there all day and nice and cold, pur 100 ml into the cafetiere

mix with a teaspoon for a couple of minues, leave for a minute, and there stir again

get a tall glass and 3 sheets of kitchen roll, place the kitchen roll on top of each other and wet through, then place the wet roll on top of the tall glass and press down gently to form like a bowl at the top of the glass

pour in your mixture and leave to filter, take off the kitchen roll and neck the solution immediately

**i found the 3 layers of kitchen roll is the best, better than coffee filters, the water is more clearer after filtration

i do this once a day at the moment and im getting a very nice "hit" from it....

dont drink alcohol with it as made me throw up all night one day last week...
 
Wow I was surprised to see this thread appear! And thankyou Evey & AngryFire :)

Nurofen + have some coating on them that will come through the filtering process, so don't worry if your result is cloudy if done right :)
 
This is my first post here, but I've been reading for a while now and I want to thank everyone for their posts; I've learned a tremendous amount off of these discussion boards and I consider myself a much safer human being as a result. I had a quick question regarding CWE for opiates. Do you have to consume the liquid directly after you strain out the APAP, or can you leave it for later? If you can, is there a preferable way to store it (I.e. In the fridge, room temperature)? I'm just wondering if I can just make a batch in the morning with the three "servings" I will have during the day, or if I need to do the process individually each time? Thank you.
 
Yeah it'll be fine left until later. I'm not sure temperature makes much difference, putting it in the fridge shouldn't hurt at all. Just be sure nobody else is likely to come along and drink it..

Welcome to Bluelight :) Hope you can stick around
 
gwz321 said:
This is my first post here, but I've been reading for a while now and I want to thank everyone for their posts; I've learned a tremendous amount off of these discussion boards and I consider myself a much safer human being as a result. I had a quick question regarding CWE for opiates. Do you have to consume the liquid directly after you strain out the APAP, or can you leave it for later? If you can, is there a preferable way to store it (I.e. In the fridge, room temperature)? I'm just wondering if I can just make a batch in the morning with the three "servings" I will have during the day, or if I need to do the process individually each time? Thank you.
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You should be fine to leave for a little while, preferably chilled in the fridge.
Longer than 24 hours and you risk bacterial/fungal contamination - you can very quickly tell by colour/smell.
 
So question....I have been doing the 8mg codeine/300mg Acetaminophen. 20 pills with approx 125 ml of water......I do about a 25ml medicine cup for every 4 pills. Is THAT dangerous? If I use less I find it hard to ration out the amount for the day because I am not doing it in one big dose but several through out the day. I have a regular 5mg 3x a day oxycodone prescription but if I have an increase in pain and I need to take a couple more...i do and I run out a week or week and a half early. So I am not trying to get high, just maintain until I can refill. I filter through a single basket type pre-soaked COLD filter. Then I re-filter through 2 pre-soaked cold filters to be sure I get as much tylenol out as possible. I had not heard the 25ml per 16 pills rule before so am slowly killing myself? I have been doing it this way for awhile. I also take 2 NAC a day when I have to to do this as a bit of a help to my liver. Basically HOW important is the amount of water and is the amount I am using dangerous? :(
 
Hi, LittleMiss, that's the second longest duration between joining and posting I've ever seen I think so welcome to posting and I hope it's a trend set to continue :)

As to your question, as I recall the figure usually given is 1g of paracetamol/acetaminophen per 100ml of cold water is the base level that will always occur no matter how carefully the CWE is done. Not necessarily a precise figure but a good rule of thumb at least. It doesn't seem you are likely to be exceeding the recommended daily maximum (which is 4g I do believe) by very much - if at all - but I would maybe suggest you could trim down further by CWEing the entire amount you need for the day in one batch and then simply dividing the final solution into however many individual doses you require. This should help to knock a few extra mg of paracetamol out of your routine and shouldn't be any more trouble - in fact I would think it would be considerably less faff than CWEing each dose individually.
 
Doing a CWE on DHC tabs, it's coming out a bit cloudy despite being sat in the fridge for half an hour, the filters being fine, etc. and I can't remember for the life of me if that's because DHC is meant to come out a bit cloudier than codeine does? It's not gonna push me over the limit for paracetamol or owt, used 100ml or so but not overly fond of the stuff either

edit: ok it's cleared up now I've posted that and started filtering again, would still be interested to know tho cos the damn stuff certainly didn't separate like I'm used to seeing with codeine
 
That's a lot of faff, it's not exactly hard to get them legitimately.
 
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Wenlock said:
That's a lot of faff, it's not exactly hard to get them legitimately.
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If you're taking about what I think you are, the prices have increased considerably over the last few months. That little lot used to cost around £90, now we looking at about £120 if I remember correctly.
 
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