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New RCs in the UK Ver.3 - Get your disappointment in here

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attempted possesion is what you used to get charged with when they find you with a load of pips when you think it is MDMA. and when you have a load of bash instead of heroin.

even if that is true the evidence would be very questionable in most cases and im sure the cps would not charge and use up court time on such circumstantial evidence unless you were recieving whole sale amounts. Still risky i agree though.
 
I dunno, I know folks that have been busted with quantities of coke and the final charge they go done for was far less than the actual quantity of 'cocaine' seized, thanks to the amount of adulterants in it...

Surely it's the same sort of deal.
 
I got the impression it was the cyclic acetal, ethylene dioxy, as this was pictured on the only site I could find on google.
 
Dear People,
Thank you for visiting our site about our evolution in the legal highs business.

First of all, as a reaction to the comments on the sentence "do store this chemical absolutly dry because if it absorbs any moisture, even from the air...", it does not instantly turn into mephedrone only with air moisture.
It will do this over a period of time but how long does it take to rail one and close the bag?
The product can be ordered in vacuum sealed packs of any size to be opened for use.
The Marquis test shows up orange on the ketal and reverts to no change after water is added.


Then, we say "legal" highs because what we are selling is legal. You can buy it in every supermarket, every corner shop and every hotel and public house in the United Kingdom.
However, this product does not come in a bottle or a can. It comes in a molecule. This is not any molecule. This is one that breaks up in the human body to release two molecules of ethanol which is commonly sold in beer wine and spirits and gets you off your tits if taken to excess. Now it would be irresponsible of us to sell in this manner due to the danger caused by excess alcohol intake so we have added something which will prevent overdosing on this dangerous legal government controlled chemical. We have added an illegal government controlled moleculke expressly to prevent alcohol overdose.

This was commonly known as Miaow or Mephedrone or 4-methyl methcathinone which as our molecule breaks down in vivo is released for each two alcohol molecules. However, the product you get can only become illegal in your body or if it comes in contact with water.

Now the legal position on this is attached below.

This was the advice given to the government by the ACMD that as usual was ignored by Her Majesties Finest.

Taken from http://www.namsdl.org/documents/ACMDCathinonesReport.pdf

There is no definition of esters and ethers in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, but from a chemical perspective esters usually only applies to derivatives of acids with a hydroxyl group, and derivatives of alcohols and phenols. Likewise ethers usually only applies to derivatives of alcohols and phenols. On this basis the cathinone derivatives would not form esters or ethers.

However, keto compounds, R1R2C=O, can form ketals, R1R2C(OR’)2, which arguably might be described as a special form of an ether. Ketals of cathinone derivatives have been discussed on drug forums in the context of a pro-drug and are mentioned in the scientific literature, usually as a means of protecting the keto group during chemical syntheses.

And this was the statutory instrument which was brought into law in a rush political move to ban all cathinones except the one big pharma lobbied to have excluded from the ban.



http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/1207/article/2/made



Amendments to the Misuse of Drugs Act 19712. In Part 2 of Schedule 2 to the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 (which specifies the drugs which are subject to control under that Act as Class B drugs)—(a)in paragraph 1(a), after “Methcathinone”, insert—“4–Methylmethcathinone”;(b)after paragraph 1(a), insert—“(aa)Any compound (not being bupropion, cathinone, diethylpropion, pyrovalerone or a compound for the time being specified in sub–paragraph (a) above) structurally derived from 2–amino–1–phenyl–1–propanone by modification in any of the following ways, that is to say,(i)by substitution in the phenyl ring to any extent with alkyl, alkoxy, alkylenedioxy, haloalkyl or halide substituents, whether or not further substituted in the phenyl ring by one or more other univalent substituents;(ii)by substitution at the 3–position with an alkyl substituent;(iii)by substitution at the nitrogen atom with alkyl or dialkyl groups, or by inclusion of the nitrogen atom in a cyclic structure.”.



As there is no mention of ketal in Misuse of Drugs Act and of course we are too stupid to realise that even the ACMD very very weak in their report about the classification of the ketal as "a special form of ether" then this prodrug impurity side product of our ethanol product is completely legal under the law as it stands.



We would like to thank you for your interest and will be sending you a free 200mg sample of 1,1-diethoxy-N-methyl-1-(4-methylphenyl)propan-2-amine for you to try out.



This offer is not for plantfood and is not for any controlled substance. It is for two ethanol molecules joined together by another which on contact with water will release boh ethanol molecules and the mephedrone molecule into the bloodstream.



Due to the danger of alcohol in under 18s we require verification that all purchasers be over the age of 18 when purchasing.



Please find attached the scientific projections for this product.

dont know if im aloud to post this but more information from the vendor, im not to great at chemistry maybe some one can put what they have said in even more basic terms.
 
There was a site giving away 2kilos in 2g samples a few weeks ago. MDPV, AminoIndanes, Cathinones, JWH series etc. The amount of profit in RCs must be fucking astronomical if they can afford to give away that much just as an advertising promotion.
 
I doubt anyone even a chemist without more specific information can say if it's true yet. But certainly sounds feasible at least in theory. I dont really like meph myself, but I love that chemistry disruptive genius if it's true :-)
 
yh same here :D they are giving away 500x200mg. Pretty huge amount!

Your not wrong there !!

Where did you hear this though ? Did they tell you this ?

If its true, this is big business and this thing is going to explode massively through the internet and word of mouth.

All depends if the science and legalities behind it hold up when it plays out.

I expect everything will happen very quickly.
 
^which is a shortsighted approach to business, considering the nature of the british tabloids.
 
Theres still chance for that bill to be rejected if i read correctly? Not that thats likely.
What a shame.
 
Entirely plausible, but look at that language, it is directly referring to human consumption. I don't expect these guys to last long at all.
 
So would 'pro-meph' be the diethyl geminal ether or ester of mephedrone? I don't know what the stability of that would be though.
 
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