RCs New RC-Benzos that Work as Prodrugs for Already Existing Ones (Clonazafone, Diclazafone, etc.)

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Gotya! -- thanks for clarification!

 

[pcplease]

np. there was a member of another forum on an etizolam bender maybe 10 years ago that ended up dosing over 100mg DOx as there were no subjectively, noticeable negative side effects, and then losing his feet in the days following due to the vasoconstriction phenethylamines cause. RIP.. though that was a few years later from opiods. i had some posts here in 2022 going through the inevitable stim psychosis after so long, kept trying to come down from by redosing more and more bromazolam and flubromazolam over several days until i was absolutely gone mentally (and made said, incoherent posts).

however again, at appropriate responsible doses, a safe benzo is almost certainly safer than taking DOx alone.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

oh wow 100 mg DOx!! One time I took DOM and 2 days later found myself very tired of tripping. 1-3 mg probably! lol

 

[Working_Class]

(2:00 pm) Jumped in to 1 mg of Rilmazafone about 15 mins ago with another 2 mg to add in if I feel like it after the 1H mark.

I haven't eaten anything yet today and had 2 cups of coffee. Just about to smoke my first joint of the day and do house work. Also have a potential buyer for a vehicle I'm selling so it should be a fairly productive day.

First impression is the bitter / odd taste on the blotter, I usually take that as a good sign. Let's see where it goes.

55 mins in, blood pressure is 114/75 RHR 90. Pressure is about 10 pts lower on diastolic and systolic than usual, RHR after blazing is usually closer to 100 / 110 so those are some measurable changes. Feel pretty relaxed and clear headed overall.

(3:00 pm) Redose 1 more mg sublingually and start chores / make meal

(3:51 pm) Finish eating berries and oatmeal, feel like being productive, cleaned kitchen, next odds and soda. Generally very relaxed, ready to encounter the potential buyer. Feel like the last 3 mg should get taken if the experience stays this mellow just to reach the full daily allotment.

I got 100 mg, so 33 doses at 3$ a pop has a nice ring to it. Trying to force it into a recreational sort of zone seems a waste given that this substance is a very geared down anxiolytic. Might as well see how the pro diazepam lends it'self to a little more recreational feel during the next experiment.

Also looking for a few high strength (< 1 mg active threshold) benzos to keep in the collection for posterity and emergencies.

(5:00 pm) Feels about peaked here, noticeable anxiolytic effect, not sloppy, very clear headed. From here it's just paying attention to how things wind down.

( 7:00 pm) Greed and relative comparison to a typical Benzo experience forced my hand. Redose another 2 mg for a total of 5. Head to the gym for mobility / core and sauna day


(9:30 pm, ~7.5 hrs in. Doses 1 mg each hr for 3 hrs + 2 mg at 5 hrs for total of 5 mg over 5 hrs)

The gym was a productive choice. I was feeling lethargic from lack of physical stimulation at home, took care of all the ranges that need work, did the tendon rehab work and finished with copenhaggens and med ball throws with deficit suitcase deadlifts, and one round of sauna for 15 mins.

There's not much to report from here other than the activity was invigorating, med to low energy so not my 100% effort or intensity, but for a mobility focused recovery day, productive and satisfying.

A few more chores and it's off to bed, this will be a test as I have had a fair bit of trouble getting to sleep for the last few days and I have a first aid course in the morning. If I can be sleeping around 11, that would be perfect.


*next day at 6:30 AM (16:28 since first ingestion). I had a good sleep, and waking up was not impossible.

I used the half life calculator to see how much drug should be left in my system and it's approximately the equivalent of 2 mg floating around in my blood at about 16 and a half hrs in.

I feel a little groggy but fine otherwise, it's been a long time since I got up this early. Need practice. All in all, this is gentle landing gear that seems save and versatile enough to be able to stock up without worry of abusing the shit since it's really not that "in your face". Perfect for the landing gear kit

 

[thurston]

Interesting post and the term "pro-drug" which I haven't heard- is appears to seem quite similar to a "precursor" - that when it metabolizes in the body it changes the compound structure. Which may be similar to steroid precursor stuff (muscle building types) Thus, allows us "commoners" to acquire them without the worries of "torture nd prosecution" from our ruling class bastards and bitches.. But back to the OP's post, I'd have to guess things may very in obtaining them in different countries though. And the actual potency in comparison to the ones we already know about - that exist in the Big Pharma Mafia..I mean Industry.

In regards to the benzo family and it's effects, I have tried almost all of the popular ones here in the United States of Slaves...i mean AmeriKa'..and never experienced any real euphoria. My "buzz" from them is really no buzz at all. I'm a hyped up guy, lots of energy, a racy mind. You've probably seen those types of people as they appear to be on speed or some upper. (excuse the term "upper" I'm an old guy, "a stupid boomer" as someone here recently posted that, and btw, thanks man ,<note eye roll>) That's a completely separate discussion though, as I really dislike being put into the "boomer box" and its snarky, disrespectful insinuation.

Anyway fkn way, benzos are my magic bullets, esp, clonazapam (sorry, I call them k-pins (short for klonopin, boomer talk ) and 2nd magic bullets are Valiums (us idiot boomers call them V's) They slow my racing mind down and I feel as though I can fiannly take a big sigh and as if a 100 pound weight comes off my shoulders. Bu what I try to tell other people what benzos do for me is that they make me feel "normal." Since they basically just slow me down (and my world) I can think clearer and better and not feel so overwhelmed, over-stimulated with life in general.

Yes, how I am (from a medical diagnosis) falls into a lot of categories as I've been through the ringer of docs, specialist, shrinks, etc. I've had these docs put me all over the place with dx's like, ADD/ADHD, OCD, somewhere on the Autistic/Aspergers spectrum, and more. I'm 66, hitting 67 in June...so I've been this way since my early teenage days, maybe sooner. The other benzos are not helpful for me at all, esp. Xanxax and Ambien which many people seem to love. I hate them, lol. I'll skip the details why i dont like them as this post has dragged on further than I wanted it to. Plus every doc I saw had me try just about any drug known to man in attempts to help me. Final Summary: Clonazapam and Diazapam. That's it. For those who me here (and my story) my doc cut me off my k-pin script as she (out of the blue) decided she no longer wanted to script it as I also take oxycodone (5mg 3x a day) The risk of ODing being the reason why the cut-off. Although the concerns from her and the contraindications involving oxy and benzo is a reality, I get it. BUT! for 6+ years I have been on the same dosages without any problems. I still have y oxy script but I am forced to search elsewhere to get either clonazapam or valium. I'm trying to do it through another doc and just be totally honest and upfront with them. I'm also searching other ways to get them.

Bottom line: I have two drugs that work for me. I've been through a shitload of docs. I tried everything possible, pharma, cannabis, ketamine, microdosing mushrooms, herbs, etc etc. I DON"T WANY ANYTHING ELSE. (maybe that's a part of being a "Boomer"...stubborness) LOL. So my search will continue until I find what I want (K-pins or V's). And I have to careful that I don't get red flagged for doctor hopping or appearing like a junkie. And also have to be careful if I go to the streets or online.

So yes, this "pro-drug" thing- possibly same meaning as "pre-cursor" option may be a good avenue to explore. Thanks to OP for the post, I hope it stays up and we can continue the discussion on it.

I have unending intrusive thoughts and music playing in my head all the time and benzos can turn it off. I have a script for kpins but I limit myself for about 5 a month so I don't get addicted, the rest go in a stash in the cabinet in case I ever get cut off or there are shortages. It's so nice when I can filter all that shit out.