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The NEK sounds pretty shit to be honest. Just sounds like you may as well go out and pay 30-35/g for cut ketamine.
 
I disagree, its pretty nice, doesnt make you as dysfunctional to outside observers as mxe can, just a bit pricey, half a g equalling about 6 hours fun...
 
Special_K: I'd put it like this, it is good, nicer feeling than MXE, probably the best RC available at the moment along with 6-APB. However it is not worth £35 a gram. It is more pleasant than a fair bit of the ketamine about just now though. I couldn't achieve a hole taking it sober, I've heard it's possible when on stims though.

The main drawbacks are price and how harsh it is on the nose.
 
It's 4 hours since I had the last dose of it and my nose is still pretty irritated, no nosebleed or anything just stuffy like as if i had a cold. Should be alright by the morning no doubt.
 
Haven't tried camfetamine but its nowhere like as stingy as 2c-e, it's more like what 4-mmc does to your nose really.
 
So I ended up doing the last of my NEK yesterday evening mixed with MXE. The dose was somewhere around 150mg NEK + 60mg MXE put in a capsule and taken orally. I'd had a few bumps of NEK earlier in the evening though it didn't do a lot. I also took 200mg of 5HTP. This time I was on my own without any external distractions from friends in the pitch black of my room with headphones on and some music. Something very special happens when you combine these two chems which makes the otherwise dull NEK extremely enjoyable and somewhat profound. During the peak I was completely immersed in the experience. It felt like being in a state of suspended animation, I'd lost all track of time and space and found myself in a sate of nothingness that felt very far from home. There was a strong sense of euphoria and contentment and pretty much all thoughts had ceased. I felt like a zen master or some shit lol. The music also sounded amazing. There were no visuals to speak of but that didn't matter as I was completely blissed out. I have no idea what MXE does to the NEK but I throughly recommended people give this combo a try.

Interested in your 5HTP combo though won't be adding the MXE. I could probably just about scrape up a usable dose from my NEK leftovers so I'll give it a try before leaving it behind as a tried but uninteresting substance. Only been IV'ing NEK so I might just snort the last of it and see what the rest of you have been putting yourselves through.

As for AH7921, is anyone getting sufficient positive effects out of it to recommend it worthy of a trial by an unconvinced onlooker? I detect mostly disappointment in it.

Lastly, o-dt, is that worth a try? Seems to be rated more positively than AH7921.
 
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Lastly, o-dt, is that worth a try? Seems to be rated more positively than AH7921.

O-DT is brilliant, I really really enjoyed it, very uplifting, energizing, social buzz. Definately not the one if you want to nod, it has a definate stimulating edge.

I did manage to get a nod from it but it was only with more than 100 mgs and in combination with good kratom leaf, on its own never. I haven't seen it around in over a year though and according to my vendor it's unlikely it will be stocked again in the future. Still, if you can get it, definatelt give it a go.
 
I could get nods reliably with o-dt but only with higher doses, ~150mg.

I think the most I ever did in one go was 120 and that was with Kratom mixed, which boost proper opiates real well.

I don't know I'd done a bit of oxy all last summer right before I managed to get hold of the O-DT so I reckon there must have been some tolerance going. It felt much more energezing than any other opiate for me, I mean even oxy is slightly stimulating, but if you go over 80mgs without having a horse tolerance you'd likely nod, O-DT just kept me active.
 
100mg AH-9721 last night, this was at a tail end of caining a g of MDPV over a weekend and doing maybe 5mg eti a day.

Anywya got home, had a beer or too and took it (argument with my dad REALLY pissed me off).

Anyway, I am a big guy, 100kg, and it was fantastic! Codeine up to 400 does nothing and i begin feeling it then but this shit built up for a hour and peaked for 2.

Euphoria, smooth come up and down were both miles better than Codeine forsure, can't compare with DHC but im getting some soon ;)
 
Interested in your 5HTP combo though won't be adding the MXE. I could probably just about scrape up a usable dose from my NEK leftovers so I'll give it a try before leaving it behind as a tried but uninteresting substance. Only been IV'ing NEK so I might just snort the last of it and see what the rest of you have been putting yourselves through.

I don't think the 5htp adds anything to the experince, it's the mxe that brings on the magic.
 
I absolutely loved ODT, got get a nod on pretty easily with that stuff, shame it's not as available now. With the AH-7921 I only had 250mg to work with the first time I did it, small doses of between 30mg and 50mg were nice and warm, when I did a higher dose of around 90mg it was stronger and almost had me nodding. I would recommend taking an antihistamine before doing high doses of AH-7921 as I was scratching like mad whilst on it and scratched away at the back of my neck the most, it was a bit sore the next day. Also I noticed the next day that I could feel a sort of hangover from the night before, I slept better than I have in weeks though on the day that I took the stuff.
 
I don't think the 5htp adds anything to the experince, it's the mxe that brings on the magic.

oh, OK. I'm with you.



O-DT is brilliant, I really really enjoyed it, very uplifting, energizing, social buzz. Definately not the one if you want to nod, it has a definate stimulating edge.

I did manage to get a nod from it but it was only with more than 100 mgs and in combination with good kratom leaf, on its own never. I haven't seen it around in over a year though and according to my vendor it's unlikely it will be stocked again in the future. Still, if you can get it, definatelt give it a go.

Sounds perfect though it sounds like I've missed the boat by the sound of it. I haven't actually looked for it yet but will have a glance about just to see.

I have found O_DT for sale on a hidden website but I've drawn a blank elsewhere.
 
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100mgs of AH7921 made me nod really bad (in fact it was nice ;)), was almost impossible to keep myself awake. I was impressed by it, gave me absolutely no uplift or euphoria but it did the job. Only the nasty, tongue numbing sensation is a bit odd, but if you drink enough it disappears long before you're sober again.

I'd also recommend taking an antihistamine with it, but i'm taking every opioid with them, so...

Btw, i could also nod pretty well on Odt, but my tolerance was trough the roof the last time i took it. I remeber taking roughly 30mgs being high on it all day, last time i took 60mgs and i barely felt it half of the day, and not even that strong. I remember when taking the 30mgs early in the morning, it made me so high later on, i was grinding my teeth and clenching my jaw like being on an amphetamine, so i wouldn't be surprised if Odt is working on serotonin like tramadol does.

Low dose Odt also mixes pretty damn well mith MXE, but one should thread this combo with caution because of strong respiratory depression.
 
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I remember when taking the 30mgs early in the morning, it made me so high later on, i was grinding my teeth and clenching my jaw like being on an amphetamine, so i wouldn't be surprised if Odt is working on serotonin like tramadol does.

It's obviously subjective but I had very similar experiences with it, one night there was a storm and a lightining fucked my modem up so I had to go into town to get a new one, I don't remember how much O-DT I took, probably around 80/100 mgs as that was my common dose. Anyway I was walking in the city centre and I felt like when you come out of a club in the early hours, I know it's cliche to say something feels like MDMA but it really did.
The girl at the phone shop was well fit and I was just chatting with her for ages(I'm usually on the shy/introverted side). Felt so good.
 
I took 100mg o-dt from a good source and didnt really get much from it, preferred eating a handful of 30mg dihydrocodeine pills for an energetic buzz without too much itching.
 
Never did get to try ODT. What happened to it? Tried MDAI a few times and now it seems to be hard to find.I liked it.Maybe i need to try and look harder.

It's back on sale now at certain places...

EDIT: OTD that is.
 
I hope I manage to get my grubby mits on some. Really quite enjoyed it.
 
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