So I ended up doing the last of my NEK yesterday evening mixed with MXE. The dose was somewhere around 150mg NEK + 60mg MXE put in a capsule and taken orally. I'd had a few bumps of NEK earlier in the evening though it didn't do a lot. I also took 200mg of 5HTP. This time I was on my own without any external distractions from friends in the pitch black of my room with headphones on and some music. Something very special happens when you combine these two chems which makes the otherwise dull NEK extremely enjoyable and somewhat profound. During the peak I was completely immersed in the experience. It felt like being in a state of suspended animation, I'd lost all track of time and space and found myself in a sate of nothingness that felt very far from home. There was a strong sense of euphoria and contentment and pretty much all thoughts had ceased. I felt like a zen master or some shit lol. The music also sounded amazing. There were no visuals to speak of but that didn't matter as I was completely blissed out. I have no idea what MXE does to the NEK but I throughly recommended people give this combo a try.
Lastly, o-dt, is that worth a try? Seems to be rated more positively than AH7921.
I could get nods reliably with o-dt but only with higher doses, ~150mg.
Interested in your 5HTP combo though won't be adding the MXE. I could probably just about scrape up a usable dose from my NEK leftovers so I'll give it a try before leaving it behind as a tried but uninteresting substance. Only been IV'ing NEK so I might just snort the last of it and see what the rest of you have been putting yourselves through.
I don't think the 5htp adds anything to the experince, it's the mxe that brings on the magic.
O-DT is brilliant, I really really enjoyed it, very uplifting, energizing, social buzz. Definately not the one if you want to nod, it has a definate stimulating edge.
I did manage to get a nod from it but it was only with more than 100 mgs and in combination with good kratom leaf, on its own never. I haven't seen it around in over a year though and according to my vendor it's unlikely it will be stocked again in the future. Still, if you can get it, definatelt give it a go.
I remember when taking the 30mgs early in the morning, it made me so high later on, i was grinding my teeth and clenching my jaw like being on an amphetamine, so i wouldn't be surprised if Odt is working on serotonin like tramadol does.
Never did get to try ODT. What happened to it? Tried MDAI a few times and now it seems to be hard to find.I liked it.Maybe i need to try and look harder.