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Perhaps MDAI isn't a great comparison.

What I mean is that the sweet spot for dosing lies quite low in intensity compared to something like ketamine, where the maximum intensity is an anaesthetic nap.

MDAI can be made more intense by ramping the dose up through the ceiling, but the risks and side effects mean its "sweet spot" lies around 130mg.
 
I've had some aMT sitting in my stash box for well over a year inside some capsules, does anyone know if it's still usable or is it possible that it has degraded over time? The capsules are inside a baggy and have been stored away in a cool dry place since about Nov' 2010.
 
Either my tolerance has gone through the roof or the last 2g of MXE I got is pretty shit.

not happy.
 
I've put a spring in my step with an experiment with ethylphenidate.

First impressions are that the stimulation's pretty pleasant and clean. Not quite as euphoric as methylphenidate but it's definitely pleasant and I'm able to function quite effectively. I can see how people might expect a bit more out of it and feel let down but I definitely think it's a worthwhile substance so far.

As far as MXE goes, I find tolerance to be a real issue, to the point where I've felt relatively straight around friends with no tolerance who've been anything but.
 
How much? What route? Watching with interest!

I have a suspicion that chasing non-existent euphoria could have been responsible for my less pleasant experience with it. ie I didn't feel something I was expecting so upped the dose looking for it and crossed over into confusion instead. Although it is perhaps more likely that it just doesn't go at all well with weed, which I was hammering at the time. Any 'research' you do in that specific area would be very interesting to me but in the interests of just not having a markedly shit time my own findings would lead me to recommend that you don't smoke during the more active part of the experience. Dude.
 
I took around 50mg orally, hubristically eyeballed for convenience's sake and because I thought nothing too untoward can happen. Obviously it could have been any amount nd any chemical in theory and I don't recommend such a cavalier approach to dosing any chemical, let alone one you've no experience with. The fact I have a stinking hangover is no excuse.

I remember you giving it the 'shitalin' tag, which discouraged me a bit so I'm quite pleasantly surprised. Expectation can play a massive part in these things though, can't it?

The euphoria's pretty lon g lasting and creeps up on you - I would've been extremely tempted to redose with a much larger amount had I not left it for a while, and it's only in the last half hour or so that I've begun to feel very content indeed, just listening to music and enjoying the sushine coming through the window.

I'll keep you posted on what happens to SWIM's monkey's sister's labrats, dude.
 
I still have 50mg of this stashed away, I'm a bit wary of it, I get manic enough in the days following an MXE sesh, haha. From what I understand the amount you'd have to take to hole on it could have serious some serious mania related after effects. I believe F&B had an unfortunate incident with it, although I think it was before my time here. Did he reach some kind of hole, or just get a bit manic and, well, we all know what happened to the poor guy after that..
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Wasn't so much a hole as a state of surgical anaresthesia - def not recommended (esp if paramedics get involved - they see pinpoint pupils, whip out the naloxone and your blood pressure goes through the roof; dangerously so...)
 
I decided to try mixing EPH an MXE last night after reading a few people have done it on here. Really brings out the euphoria in the EPH and smooths out the whole experience. I was mixing it together in the same line which seemed to help with the burn as well. %)
 
Saterday night all nighter.

Right saurday i did another MXE hole (5pm ish), was all nice and fluffly this time, obviously i worked out all the devil ugly shit last time.


I also added vaped AMT after the hole must have vaped around 50-60mg Wow even the smoke was all psychedelic buy the last of the does.

This put me into a rather twisted state, everything around me had light orbs around it, patterns twiting massive uephoria.

I then decided to mix in little dabs of 6-apb and 5-apb, kept me awake all night until 1300 the next day

One of most twisted experiences i have ever had, did noticed any side effect apart from small waves of nausea which soon passed. heart rate was ok ,no signs of any serotonin type symptoms.

ended the night with 4mg of etizalom
 
I must say f&b, I suspect some batches are worse than others - I have a light beige batch which has a sickly, floral smell and isn't really so intolerable. It almost makes me doubt mine, as I don't picture you to be the type who messes with anything but 99% purity (not just where the label says 99.9999% either!).
 
Email recieved today.

Got a email from some shady vendor it said.

They have been testing a new 4-mmc and its even stronger, bla bla ..... what the hell is this not another eric shit product.

The site also sells mxe as rhino ket.....WTF shady as hell.


PS i don't mind the smell or taste When vaping AMT....reminds me of skatole (floral in small amounts)
 
I've never tried any R C yet but am very interested in trying some Etizolam.I like my diazepam,I know this is supposed to be like diaz but shorter acting.
Is it right that 1mg is equal to around 10mg diaz?
If anyone has tried it what are your thoughts on it, would it be worth buying as a cheaper alternative to diazepam?
 
Ello max, basically don't buy it off RC sites as their prices are pisstaking and the bulk of them seem to be the pharmaceutical version taken out of its packaging and marked up 1000%.

Some people who have taken a lot of ~pams of one sort or another over the long term find that etizolam doesn't really work for them. I don't understand why this should be the case but it's come back to me a couple of times both on here and in real life so there may be something in it.
 
IIRC Should be literally half way between the two, I remember reading the lower the substitution the less the euphoria/serotonin release.
 
jancrow said:
Ello max, basically don't buy it off RC sites as their prices are pisstaking and the bulk of them seem to be the pharmaceutical version taken out of its packaging and marked up 1000%.

Some people who have taken a lot of ~pams of one sort or another over the long term find that etizolam doesn't really work for them. I don't understand why this should be the case but it's come back to me a couple of times both on here and in real life so there may be something in it.
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Etizoilam is a thienyldiazepine as opposed to a benzodiazepine. Replacing one aromatic group with another is no guarentee of identical action eg methoxetamine and tiletamine only differ in the aromatic group (mxe -3-methoxyphenyl, tiletamine - 2-thienyl), but while mxe has gained acceptance, most people wouldn't touch tiletamine with a shitty stick. Thart said though, I don't think etizolam is a bad drug, but I'm no conisseur of benzos - I just tend to use them in the way they're intended medically as opposed to using them for euphoric effects
 
AMT strength

FUUUK AMT.

Well it seems my first batch of amt was not very potent.

Got a new batch did 3mg Vaped (with 2mg top up at 3 hour mark) and that was more than enough for 17 hours... its not one to be messed with.
 
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