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[Septonn]

Never had 2C-C mad most of the other 2C-X/2C-T-X, you saying it has a mellow opiate feel really interested me. Love mixing my Oxy with other trips. Might have to get a sample. Got some 2C-E that I'll be taking soon. Love the intensity of it and the mad visuals. Probably my favourite after 2C-B.

Coincidentally got my hands on ~100mg of 2C-C yesterday, am tempted to try it soon but I may wait for some better weather and head off to the beach with it

 

[Shambles]

Am I correct in thinking MXE and pills/MDMA should not be mixed?

It's not a combo that seems to go well and I vaguely recall some people reporting some kinda medical concerns with it too. Not sure if they would be of the talking-yourself-into-casualty type or the genuine cause for concern type but there does appear to be issues of some sort with MXE + MDMA combos.

 

[Transform]

Am I correct in thinking MXE and pills/MDMA should not be mixed?

Depends on the dose IMO.

At low doses the combo is pleasant, though at higher doses it's possible that the SRI effects of MXE could dull the effects of the MDMA.

MXE on the comedown of MDMA is wonderful and should be enjoyed by everyone (IMHO).


There were a few concerns about safety when MXE emerged but these seem to have faded away now.

 

[ColtDan]

From personal experience combining MXE and MDMA was horrible, mixing stims and MXE was nasty as well, especially meph. and meph and ket i'll never combine again, dunno why meph reacts badly with dissocatives (or for me at least)

 

[Swarm]

MXE on the comedown of MDMA is wonderful and should be enjoyed by everyone (IMHO).
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yeah definitely second that one. i find mxe to be the perfect antidote to almost any drug on the fade out/ come down.

Mixing the two together though is a potentially very dangerous thing to do. i know this from past experience. Like with anything it depends on tolerance so its hard to give numbers. If you have next to no tolerance to mxe, so that around 40 mg up the nose gives you a fairly strong buzz then I would suggest exercising extreme caution in combing mdma with mxe. I've done it, and at varying levels of tolerance, with drastically different outcomes being the outcome.

Example one - this is acid not mdma, but I've combined mxe with just about every stim you can think of so hopefully this example has some merit.

I had no mxe tolerance at the time and had tried it maybe 3 or 4 times previously. I combined just 40mg mxe with half a cube of very good quality acid and I was so loaded I really felt on the verge of hospitalisation.

Example two - I had been using mxe for well over a year and had a sky high tolerance. This example event happened within 2 weeks of the uk ban in fact. I bumped 250 mg of Mxe while peaking on a full cube of the same acid in the first example and was fine. I actually did this in a club down on brighton sea front.

I hope that serves as some sort of guide, its one of the few instances where i can give numbers. Seriously though, mxe and stim combo's have real potentials for disaster. I can remember atleast 4 or 5 incidents where i combined mxe with a stim (mdai and 6 apb were amongst the substances on my list) and had shooting pains down my left arm and felt my heart beating so hard I thought I might not make it.

My advice would be to snort the mxe, so as to get a nice rapid onset - no nasty surprises down the line from oral doses that haven't fullly hit yet, and work your way up. There is no harm in doing a 20mg bump and waiting 15 mins before doning another one. You can always take more but you can't ever turn the clock back.

 

[Inflorescence]

Trawling through uninteligable posts elsewhere QUICK fire question. I love 4-FA but what about 4-FMA...any one had both..? Experiences/comparisons?

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[Mental Kenny]

It's not a combo that seems to go well and I vaguely recall some people reporting some kinda medical concerns with it too. Not sure if they would be of the talking-yourself-into-casualty type or the genuine cause for concern type but there does appear to be issues of some sort with MXE + MDMA combos.

I was sort of ill with a 4-FA plus MXE combo a few years back, overstimulation and high blood pressure. All solved by a handful of etizolams.

AMT and MXE are beyond words

 

[Shambles]

Trawling through uninteligable posts elsewhere QUICK fire question. I love 4-FA but what about 4-FMA...any one had both..? Experiences/comparisons?

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I thought 4-FMA was crap. I also thought 2-FMA was crap. Both for similar reasons. 4-FMA is kinda like 4-FA only less of everything, 2-FMA is much like 2-FA only more of everything. In both cases they feel murky and ill-defined rather than being either euphoric and luvvy or focussed and speedy. I wouldn't bother with the FMAs again.

 

[ColtDan]

Shamby try and talk inflor into trying 6-APB, shes had it for ages but carrys on bashing 4-fa... fuck that try the 6. Madness

 

[Shambles]

As a mod I couldn't possibly be involved in encouraging drug use. As a druggy I'll be sure to have a word when next we speak outside of a public thread

I can see why somebody might prefer to stick with fourfa over... sixapab. I do believe Ms Flo is partial to South America's finest export and there is a lot more similarity between that and fourfa. 6-APB is more suited to situations you'd "normally" be taking MDMA really - that's not often the case on a school night for most people. Oddly enough, had vague and general plans for an MDMAdified chat with Ms Flo in the not-too-distant and was expecting I'd be needing to use 6-APDB as a stand-in. Just acquired a couple pills unexpectedly and am now wondering if that chat will happen only it'll be Ms Flo opting for the stand-in drugs.

 

[Inflorescence]

Shambles I will pm my current Tupperware index card and we can work something out eh Erica? Look forward to it.

 

[Kronos]

I thought 4-FMA was crap. I also thought 2-FMA was crap. Both for similar reasons. 4-FMA is kinda like 4-FA only less of everything, 2-FMA is much like 2-FA only more of everything. In both cases they feel murky and ill-defined rather than being either euphoric and luvvy or focussed and speedy. I wouldn't bother with the FMAs again.

Before the FMAs came out i'm sure there was alot of concern about potential danger/harm with them, did this get proven false?

 

[mydrugbuddy]

It was just one of them in particular that was said to be so highly neuro-toxic it could permanently destroy your brains serotonin with just one dose !!

AFAIK no reputable vendor stock it any more. I cant remember name of said substance. Where is BabylonBoy when you need him? Infact where is he full stop

Wanted some more of that yellow mephedrone but my mans gone quiet on me. So that led me to one of the more interesting RC sites, PV i didnt enjoy last time, APVP doesnt seem to be favourably viewed. Decided to give a little pentedrone one last bash. Its like PVs quiet little brother or something, i think i quite enjoyed it last time i tried it. Its not as hard on the body as mephedrone or PV, and is much better than ethylphenidate. The next few weeks may be seeing the last of all my little or big binges, as im currently using kratom anyway that overrides all come downs and all other ills too, so may as well order now whilst im still using that shit, as its not gonna be for much longer.

ive got a little pre ban 6eapbd or eapd cant remeber which one it is. As im on an SNRI thing though these serotonin fuelled substances are not really advisable for me, at best they wont 'take off' or 'kick in' properly, at worst it could lead to SS type things. I once had a horrific experience after taking too much 4FA whilst on an SSRI. For the time being i'll be sticking to the more dopamine type of stims, not that i take stims at all often these days, but just fancy maybe one last bash.

 

[Sprout]

It was just one of them in particular that was said to be so highly neuro-toxic it could permanently destroy your brains serotonin with just one dose !!

AFAIK no reputable vendor stock it any more. I cant remember name of said substance. Where is BabylonBoy when you need him? Infact where is he full stop .

Chloroamphetamines are neurotoxins to a severe level - 6 months of serotonin depletion from a single dose in rat studies.
PCA may as well be a biological weapon, and whomever sells it as an RC should be charged with terrorism.

 

[Swarm]

Still such early days but I do believe I may be finding my range with mebroqualone. Three times this week I have taken an oral dose of 180mg. The onset is slow - a good hour, but the duration appears fairly decent - 3 hours maybe. So far I have been utilizing it as a "get me out of a hole" drug, so no real comments on its recreational potential, but so far it seems to show some promise. Was an absolute life saver a few days ago after swarm went off the deep end and got into all kinds of peevee horrid ness and needed rescuing. Seems to be doing a good job of combating the jaw clenching (from excess mxe past month) and benzo withdrawals right now too.

 

[foolsgold]

what the fuck is this 2-(tert-butylamino)-1-(3-chlorophenyl)propan-1-one or 3-CBP a noid i would guess

3-MeOMC; 3-Methoxymethcathinone
1-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(methylamino)propan-1-one

3-MeOMC is a positional isomer of Methedrone. Also known as 3-Methoxymethcathinone. It is a reseach chemicals with formula C11H15NO2. Formula weight of 3-MeOMC is 229.7.
Nothing much is known about this research chemical. The molecular weight of this chemical is 193.24

could this be what meph heads are looking for ?

sorry just clicked its methedrone not mephedrone sorry about that

 

[Mental Kenny]

I ordered some 3-MMC, the last time I did it wasn't too bad, I'm bored of the FAs, I think I overdid them the past five years, back in 2010 I was on daily 4-FA for ages, the pvs I also can't touch anymore, anyway I did a fair bit of both pv and apvp last month, so I'm not touching them for a while.

A-pvp, I find awesome, only problem is that just like its cousin, it controls me, and stimulants that are active at such low doses are a problem for me as I always end up on week long binges.

I remember the last time I did 3-MMC, half gram was gone by morning till mid afternoon, so it's perfect for me right now, no crazy binges.

 

[ColtDan]

Bollocks to 4-FA daily for ages, the stuff stops working pretty quickly

 

[Mental Kenny]

Bollocks to 4-FA daily for ages, the stuff stops working pretty quickly

I was taking it as an ADD self-medication, used to make my own capsules to bring at work.

Trust me, 60mgs daily work wonders for months. You don't get any euphoria to begin with, it's just that I couldn't get speed or pharma stuff like Adderall, it works like a straight amphetamine at that dose range.

I did a whole internship on daily 4-FA, sometimes alternating with Butylone. That's six months of daily use.

4-FA at recreational doses for is only good for two consecutive days.

 

[Sammy G]

4-FA is a dismal failure any way you choose to take it.

I did the self-diagnosed 'ADD' self-medication schtick with 4-FA for a while and it just didn't work after a very short time indeed. YMMV I guess...