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thanks for the vaping info shambles. Amt vaped sounds like psychedelic meth. I might have to give it a go since i quite like the stimmyness of amt as it feels fairly clean and euphoric, anything psychedelic from it is a bonus.
 
Swarm said:
What's n ethyl nor ketamine?
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Sometimes (technically incorrectly) referred to as ethylketamine. A total flop of a drug which was well and truly rubbish as a ketamine replacement and in its own right.
 
Yeah was rubbish... i swear later batches of MXE were cut with it as well
 
I gave 2-fma a go yesterday and today. Its not bad imo. Doesn't really seem to have a comedown, but I keep my doses low. I would say I dosed about 10-15mgs because I had to work and well I was still really tired and fucked up on mxe from the night before.

I like 3 meo-pcp. I find 10 mgs IM or sniffed really lifts my mood. In larger doses I have experienced ego death from this compound.

I find 2-fa to be the most functional rc stim as it just seems to wake me up and I get no comedown from it. I have redosed on this compound to keep working but once I was done with it, I had no problem putting it up.

I find diclazepam to be the best rc benzo in terms of prices, but if flubromazepam ran close to the same price I would go with that hands down. I take these sort of things either orally or sublingualy.

MXE would be the rc I like the most and for the most part I keep my dose low. I have never gone over 100mgs but I have IV'd that amount and I could see that being quite overwhelming for some people. I have witnessed people passing out/holing at 50 mgs IV so none of this is to be taken lightly. I usually sniff about 23-50 mgs but I have sniffed more.

I often mix mxe and 4-homet together which I find to be an excellent trip. 4-homet imo gives pretty good visuals at rather low doses (10-20mgs, maybe 4-8 when you first start with it) and the mxe goes so nice with it and keeps things calm. I never really notice any mind-fucking with 4-homet but I really like the visuals.

I have given 25i-nbome a spin. Well first off the day afterwards I ended up sleeping 24 hours straight. I suppose the comeup is a bit rough on the stomach (nothing that really bothered me). I had 100 mgs and did about 20 mgs the first time. The the next time I ended up splitting the remainder with a freind. So I would say over the course of the evening we did about 40 mgs each.

To sum it up, it takes an hour to come up and then for lack of better words I got bitch-slapped by a rainbow. The person I did it with agreed that was the best way to put it. We started both at very small amounts and worked our ways up. All in all I felt a bit of disapointment after reading how damn strong the 25xnbome family of drugs are. Still all the same it was rather cheap but the fact I had to sleep so long after wards and I had no choice but to sleep, really made the fun not worth it.

I really do not get the whole less than a mg can kill you thing, but I seem to have an abnormally high tolerance to just about everything I have done. Still all the same I should point out the substance has a reputation for killing people.

I was thinking of giving 4-fa a go. I want to do it with someone though. Does anyone know if 4-fma is better?

I am obviously not a doctor or even giving dosing advice or advice on what to take for that matter. I am simply relating my experiences here.
 
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dopemaster said:
I have given 25i-nbome a spin. Well first off the day afterwards I ended up sleeping 24 hours straight. I suppose the comeup is a bit rough on the stomach (nothing that really bothered me). I had 100 mgs and did about 20 mgs the first time. The the next time I ended up splitting the remainder with a freind. So I would say over the course of the evening we did about 40 mgs each.

To sum it up, it takes an hour to come up and then for lack of better words I got bitch-slapped by a rainbow. The person I did it with agreed that was the best way to put it. We started both at very small amounts and worked our ways up. All in all I felt a bit of disapointment after reading how damn strong the 25xnbome family of drugs are. Still all the same it was rather cheap but the fact I had to sleep so long after wards and I had no choice but to sleep, really made the fun not worth it.

I really do not get the whole less than a mg can kill you thing, but I seem to have an abnormally high tolerance to just about everything I have done. Still all the same I should point out the substance has a reputation for killing people.
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Good lord. I presume not dosed all at once? or did you swallow it?
 
Transform said:
This has always been the case, with all drugs. There were plenty of shit or dangerous RCs through history. Remember piperazines? Remember herbal highs? Remember N-ethyl-norketamine? Remember 2-DPMP? Remember 5-IAI? Remember 5F-UR-144 (nephrotoxin)? Remember naphyrone?

And damn, jbrandon. Good luck; that is not a situation I would want to be in.
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Yeah, but 2-DPMP has its utilities. A drug is as dangerous as the subject allows it to be. Many trainwrecks could have been prevented through reading. The other ones you mentioned are just garbage, I agree :D
 
Transform said:
Good lord. I presume not dosed all at once? or did you swallow it?
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Insulfated. No I started with 2 mgs. Then re-dosed about 4 times the first go around. So about 25 mgs that night. I hear its not active swallowed and only sublingual and sniffing it work. Sniffing is the way to go if you must do this which I actually really suggest not doing.

The second time it was done with a small 2mg allergy test since it was with a friend and well the come up can be rough for some ppl (neither of us had trouble) and then we did a strong second dose and after that we looked at what was left and said fuck it and did the rest.

So the second go around I split it with a friend which would be 75 mgs between two people.

The trip was pretty cool but like I said I slept 24 hours and my friend slept about twice as long but got up a few times to eat and use the toilet. But yeah literally 24 hours of straight sleep afterwards. I was a bit stumbly too afterwards getting my bearings. I have no noticable side effects at this point. I do not think this compound is worth fucking with at all mainly because of who long it makes you sleep and how dangerous I read it is.

There are better trips out there, so why fuck with this one? It definitely ain't no acid substitute. I see how there are some similarities. I did end up with open eye visuals but hell even enough of 4-homet does that and is wayyyy smoother and safer.

The only reason I bothered to right up about 25i was to give out some info. I have read less than a mg kills and I think that is bollocks but everyones body is different. Hell some people die from vaccines, so I dunno. I wouldn't have done this with someone who had not taken alot of psychs already as well as someone who knew exactly what they were doing and would not hold me accountable if shit hit the fan, which it did not.

For the record I have never had a bad trip, but I have seen someone have one and it was bad. The person I did this with has never had a bad trip either. We are both pretty experienced, myself being the most experienced with psychadelics as well as pretty much any other drug for better or worse.

I am lucky I haven't really fucked myself up with drugs but I have been physically dependent at various times and had to go to detox a few times for alcohol of all things. As far as opiates I am dependent on them, but I had a serious injury and can kick CT and well I wouldn't take them if I did not need them. The same goes for benzodiazapines. Depspite the large amount of narcotics I have consumed over longer than half my life I have had several doctors say I am in excellent health.

I do eat very healthy, exercise, and take vitamin supplements. I really should quit smoking. (sorry small tangent)
 
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So my dose woulda straight killed you.

See that is why i started with 1 mg the first time, then moved to 2 mgs, than like 4 and so on.

I always do an allergy/can't handle it test before i dose for real with shit like this.

Just like ppl should do a test shot with dope.

I forget the name of the actor who died but id bet a large sum of money that if he did a test shot first he would still be alive.
 
dopemaster said:
Insulfated. No I started with 2 mgs. Then re-dosed about 4 times the first go around. So about 25 mgs that night. I hear its not active swallowed and only sublingual and sniffing it work. Sniffing is the way to go if you must do this which I actually really suggest not doing.

The second time it was done with a small 2mg allergy test since it was with a friend and well the come up can be rough for some ppl (neither of us had trouble) and then we did a strong second dose and after that we looked at what was left and said fuck it and did the rest.

So the second go around I split it with a friend which would be 75 mgs between two people.
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I think it's worth making it extremely clear that doses like that are utterly ridiculous and most certainly lethal if product is anywhere even remotely pure. I have no idea why anybody would be needing doses of any of the NBOMes that even stray close to double digit mg let alone triple. I can only presume your source is less than reliable and what you received was either very heavily cut or not NBOMe at all. Even 2mg is far higher than most people would find at all comfortable or remotely enjoyable. Initial allergy tests should be more like maybe 100mcg than 2mg as 2mg is already about double what would be a pretty strong dose in itself.
 
To me it seems dopemaster has either got the substance confused, it was heavily cut or the doses confused because I find it hard to believe that anyone did such a stupid amount of any NBOMe.

For the sake of harm reduction I hope nobody reads dopemasters posts and thinks that is a safe amount, which its certainly not.
 
thise must be the highest doses of nbome ive read have been ised and survived. i dont mean it as anything remotely encouraging either. i subscribe to what shambles and miser said, dopemaster might even consider adding a little warning to the post

what is 2moz?
 
kingme said:
thise must be the highest doses of nbome ive read have been ised and survived. i dont mean it as anything remotely encouraging either. i subscribe to what shambles and miser said, dopemaster might even consider adding a little warning to the post
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Was thinking about this again last night and there's no way it even comes under natural variation or YMMV - it just isn't possible for there to be that much variation in dose and should definitely be made very clear that nobody would survive doses at that level of any of the NBOMes. More than one of them have killed in the single digit mg dose range from what I recall (I think also one or two ODs where it was thought to be something else and taken at very high dose - either way, 1mg is a strong dose for most of them, 100mg is gonna be a lethal dose for all of them given their iffy toxicity profile at a fraction of that level).

yoyo50 said:
Wait till the daily mail pick on "2moz" ;)
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=D
 
Shambles said:
The difference between ecstasy and MDMA being...?
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I assume she means ecstasy in the form of pills.. The terms "molly" or "mandy" are usually used to describe crystal, not the tablet form, pills are just, well... pills.

I really cannot stand the terms molly/mandy, has always got on my nerves. For some reason when im out I seem to get asked my randomers alot more than any of my pals, alot more, could be to do with how spangled I am or maybe I just look like a drug dealer, I dunno.. if someone says to me " alrite mate, do ya know where I can find Mandy" I automatically do not want to help them, silly, i guess so but it gets on my tits...! That and helping people score drugs is a crime and im not a criminal... :)
 
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