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but on a serouis note, that was the most stupid mix i have ever done, it was prob right at the start when i joined BL sure as hell wouldn't do that again or recommend anything like that, i thank fuck it was 3-4 days of just not being able to eat and sickness and not something worse
 
aMT never took off because it gets sideeffect-y at some doses for most people.. nausea vomiting and stuff. i also never udnerstood why people took doses so high, 30mg is plenty for a night out for me, keeping things managable but still sparkly and energetic.

as for etizolam, i dont think it would be that great for anxiety as its kind of short lasting isnt it? its also a slippery slope as far as regular use goes...
for sleep, i usually go for the minimum that helps, which is .5 or 1 mg. 2 at most if in dire need of coming down something nasty. but never went over that and never used it regularly (think once a month maybe)
 
ColtDan said:
A lot of people love AMT but nah never properly took off, would go 50mg minimum if i was you. might have another go myself soon

Occasional use of etiz for anxiety would be alright but dont abuse it, the rebound is harsh. 0.5mg for anti anxiety, 1mg used to properly relax me but id feel tired within a few hours and end up monging out, not very functional. got more tolerance now
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I've taken doses of aMT between 30mg & 80mg in the past. I think 50-60mg is the sweet spot but I was considering doing lower since I haven't taken it in a while & it's from a different vendor. 40mg is really a threshold for a proper aMT experience for me, so I thought 45mg would strike the right balance.

kingme said:
aMT never took off because it gets sideeffect-y at some doses for most people.. nausea vomiting and stuff. i also never udnerstood why people took doses so high, 30mg is plenty for a night out for me, keeping things managable but still sparkly and energetic.

as for etizolam, i dont think it would be that great for anxiety as its kind of short lasting isnt it? its also a slippery slope as far as regular use goes...
for sleep, i usually go for the minimum that helps, which is .5 or 1 mg. 2 at most if in dire need of coming down something nasty. but never went over that and never used it regularly (think once a month maybe)
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Yeah, I've rarely had any side effects from aMT unless re-dosing. Mostly just a body load & residual stimulation towards the end. I seem to be one of those fortune people for whom it works properly!

As for etizolam & anxiety... it would only be the occasional one off (as for sleep). I'm reasonably good at keeping on top of any anxiety in my life anyway but if things were piling up & I could use an etizolam to take the edge of things whilst sorting it all out, that'd be perfect. I believe it's half life is 6-8 hours incidentally.
 
from wiki:
"Etizolam, a thienodiazepine derivative, is absorbed fairly rapidly, with peak plasma levels achieved between 30 minutes and 2 hours.
It has a mean elimination half life of about 3.5 hours"

however, it is true that 2-3 doses are given per day for anxiety disorders which may be more in line with the 6-8h of effect
 
just got some mebroqualone through post. dropped 85mg oral. is that a good dose. I had about 100mg 4 fa already today so I got nice back ground stim vibe to see me through atleast.
 
still no reply you lazy fucks its sat and all. is no matter. mebroq didn't do a hell of a lot except make me loose further intetest in porn I was watching at time. Thought fuck it, boshed another 100mg 4 FA and restrung me geetar instead.
 
Chatative said:
I've taken doses of aMT between 30mg & 80mg in the past. I think 50-60mg is the sweet spot but I was considering doing lower since I haven't taken it in a while & it's from a different vendor. 40mg is really a threshold for a proper aMT experience for me, so I thought 45mg would strike the right balance.
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Hmm. I'm starting to wish people would talk about dosages in terms of mg/kg as I *suspect* I'm quite a bit smaller than you lot so would probably do well with 30mg. Ponder. Maybe that's just me being nerdy.
 
80 mg amt does sound like a monster dosage to me i have to admit.

That shit got me scared a couple of times just from the longevity and the fact it wouldn't quit. Admittedly i was taking the amt on top of mxe, alcohol and 6 apb at the time (I know I'm a HR night mare) but it was defintitely the amt that was the driving force pushing me over the edge on this occasion. My bro handed me a spliff, i had a couple of tokes and was then was like fuck this i'm outa here. That's when i reached for what i call the petrol jelly. This is going back a few years and i had no benzo's in my possesion or anything but there was that awful 2methyly 2 propanol , (tertiary butanol, anyone remember). Either way, the only way i found i could injest it without it burning the fuck out of my oesophagus was to get it really cold and mix it into some cheapo aldi's 20p a pack strawberry/ raspberry jelly or whatetever. I would keep this in the fridge for emergencies such as the situation described above. yeah the petrol jelly put my lights out and saved me on that one occasion (and a few others but i'll save that for another time and place i think).
 
Fuck me thats one hell of a mix lol. yeah it goes on like a train, 15 hours for me and couldnt sleep for shit, benzos hardly put a dent in it, enjoyed every moment past the comeup though. wasnt overwelming or anything

80mg does indeed sound pretty heavy
 
I found 1mg etizolam to send me to sleep after maybe 11h+ of a 70mg rectal dose. Don't have benzo tolerance though, and I'm pretty small and it's normally like 8am by this point
 
MrPorter said:
I found 1mg etizolam to send me to sleep after maybe 11h+ of a 70mg rectal dose. Don't have benzo tolerance though, and I'm pretty small and it's normally like 8am by this point
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That sound's about right. Before I fell into deep etizolam misuse (up to 15 a day!) i used to find that just one had a discernable effect. I've done 3 tonight along with 5 pyrazolams to take the edge off all the 4 FA and MXE I been doing today but i can definitely remember a time before my tolerance was out of control when 3 etizolams had me fucking spangled at an open mic night. Admittedly, I'd been up for 3 days and deep into the mexxy that night but i can't even remember the set. I know what pub it was in and i can tell you the lay out, but my memory of that night was more like playing at a space station or something. Like i said though, I hadn't been to sleep for 3 nights, and before that it was 5 and i was on about half a gram of mexxy a day at that point. i remember because i had just come back from brighton where i dropped two hits of acid and did a quarter gram bump of mexxy on the sea front. yeah shit got quite messy around that time now that recollect the facts properly. I remember i was doing loads of mpa as welll and I dapped a bag of ethyl phenidate about 3 hours before the mic night and did so much accidently that i thought i was going to have a heart attack, which prompted the 3 etiz. yeah that's pretty much how it went down now i think about it.
 
anyone got experience vaping/smoking freebase amt? i heard it eliminates the nausea, has a faster onset, a shorter duration and its more stimmy and less trippy.
 
no experience vaping amt myself, though i've heard many choose to plug it for reasons you described. Certainly if you plug it you will get around what's known as the "first pass" of the liver, which i'm sure you've heard about. be interested myself to hear of other's haveing vaped the freebase form.
 
its the shorter duration of vaping thats appealing to me because I love amt but its just too long of a journey sometimes. Might give 5mg a vape next time to see.
 
For me vaping AMT was rather harsh and led to far more stimulation than anything else. That's not to say colors weren't intensified and a certain amount of ego dissolution didn't occur with repeated doses. Kinda cool actually, just nasty to 'smoke'. Yes, much much shorter duration, which for AMT is significant.
 
I am no paragon of virtue and am pretty wrecked after today's retox BUT drinking water...and taking vits and minerals, ammino acids and milk thistle..gonna try force a protein bar down shortly. Personal oppinion on eph...bin it...fucked heart, dry mouth, headache is all I get from it..no idea why I am so foolish as to have to keep buying in...snortelling fixation..then I need 4-5 etz to calm my heart down and started on the 2-FA which was more fun than I remembered...listening to music..lovely talks with my other half....

But yeh swarm we gotta stop using this vile, ridiculous,,,extraordinarily not interesting, functional or recreational filth..the eph..imo!?

So a zop for me and more water. Feeling fine and dandy..let us all be careful. You may be on the whole more tolerant/fitter/younger and know yer mixes of shit....so don't go throwing things at me...for caring...and yes trying to take own advice a lot these days too...aint trying to be Queen HR but I just can't stand anymore ill effects...just love you all <3 tis all....fucking tired and happy and slight hippy lapse there. Seriously please all stick around a looooooooong time.
 
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