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Neo-doves Part II

Given that the authorities in Israel have targeted cathinone and analogues recently, could one assume that the new range of products probably won't contain any analogue of cathinone? Or does their legislation not cover the exotic/unknown ?

I could see a range of new pro-drugs as being a possibility. They still seem to fit into a grey quasi-legal area of legislation (in Israel anyhow).
 
new products:

ND2: The next generation of a superior supplement that will make you feel vital and happy.

S.C.D: Creating sense of happiness and increased energy.

High Spirit: To take one's ease being free of or relieved from tension or anxiety: in a Holy mood

edit: neorganics changed Holy -> High
 
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im just wondering what the chances are of me being detected in a urine drug screen for amphetamines, after taking neo-doves.
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This depends entirely on whether cathinones are substrates for the antibodies used in the tests. I hope to have a more definitive answer on this shortly.
 
Splatt said:
lets hope theyre not MDPV or the other research stims.
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i wouldnt mind a desoxypipiradol pill. always wanted to try that one. but mdpv should be left well out of any "commercial" pills. *shudder*
 
Just curious; what would be so bad about MDPV? Risks of overdosing if pills are stacked, for instance?
 
Yeah.. MDPV overdose feels rather toxic. Its like being on a whole bunch of speed without any good feelings. Feels worse than coming down off meth binges even. Lots of anxiety. It makes people act very, very manic too, and will bring A.D.D attention seeking type satuff out of a lot of people, just because of all the muscle and CNS contractions/error you get. Some people can stand it, others are very hypersensative. For example I know sopmeone who ate around 20mg of it in a short people, mixing with MDMA, then shot up like 40-50mg of it and he said it was a shitty, weak chemical. Where as I am too high off around 10mg. Anything over is just going to come back at me hard on the comedown, but not r4eally give me a much better peak. I think thisa stuff is worse than speed, when mixed with psychedelics.

I just dont feel MDPV is safe

Btw, i have a feeling the SC2 might still be 4-FMP. I dont think the israeli government banned that. There isnt a meth problem over there as far as I know. But for centuries there have been khat-related addictions and problems.
 
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phase_dancer said:
This depends entirely on whether cathinones are substrates for the antibodies used in the tests. I hope to have a more definitive answer on this shortly.
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i passed my drug test apart from benzos which is something different
 
jayslapmc said:
i passed my drug test apart from benzos which is something different
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Out of interest, how many days after consuming ND did you take this test?
 
so has anyone ordered any from the new range? what does scd even stand for? sub coca dove? hah
 
^^ yea im wondering this too? Has any1 tried the new range, experiences/comparisons to old range?
Thanks.
 
A few reports are starting to trickle out on European sites: consensus seems to be the new range is similar but somewhat milder, with some people very dissapointed. But then, a lot of people on such forums have been eating industrial quantities of neos for months, so questions of tolerance et cetera make it hard to judge the relevance of this.

Bioassay's the only real way to test...but personally, I'm much too cautious (cowardly) to be a guinea pig on these, and am aiming to make this my first major stimulant free-year since 1992. With the possible exception of ibogaine, if I really start fiending.
 
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