Opioids Need major help getting off heroin/ oxycodone

[Pill__Head]

Greetings all,

To start things off, heres a little background info about me:
I'm 20 years old,

I recently had to drop out of college ( last semester) due to all my money going to my abuse my of OXY's.

I have a decent tolerance, i think so at least. 90mg oxy not much happens to me, 120mg oxy will give me a goood high, 150mg oxy & im fucked up... too fucked up haha. ( no such things as 'too fucked up' right )

Oddly enough and not to "toot my own horn" by any means but I am a very smart individual and have a lot of potential inside me if I can get my God-damn shit together!

I have been abusing opiates (and some others, opiates are my favorite by far tho.) for a good 6 years now. Ive tried nearly all opiates/opioids, mostly Oxycodone though. Until recently, past month or so I could no longer afford pills and moved up to the cheaper,better, bigger "gun": Heroin (BTH). For the most part I've been smoke it, but have most I have definitely IV'd a handfull of times, I try not to do it very often simply because I LIKE TO TOO MUCH.

I have SUCH an addictive personality, I believe it runs in my family as my father died from an Oxy + Alcohol OD. I know that if i don't make a change in my currently lifestyle, I am going to end up my father. I sure hope not, but lets all be honest, something needs to change.

I should also mention I am a chronic THC freak. lol. weed/dabs/eddibles/ect. on the daily, i have been smoking for years straight. I cant remember the last time I went over 24 hour w/o smoking.. been atleast a couple years.

ALSO.....Me and Alprazolam have a nice relationship. I usually have more than i know what to do with, as I buy it in bulk as pure powder. ( and yes its pure, the smallest amount will out you on YOUR ASS!). I try to only use at night.. depending on my opiate dosae, my usual dose is 6-8mg; somtimes more.

SO HERE'S THE QUESTION HERE: (sorry for all the rambling, im urrently fcked up from methadone and xanax)

I want to get on methadone so i can try to get back into school eventaully, and get out of this shit-hole of a life i'm currently living.

I Have used methadone probably a total of 4 different times in the last month, and i looooved it. The doses I took were around 40mg which didn't give me a "opiate high". Rather it kept me in a great mood ALL day, I had no WD symptoms, no craving for opiates or even to get high, it was just awesome. It kept me totally content and cool without being all fucked up and high. (As much as i love slamming some tar into my veins :D).....I just can't continue this path.

The only thing I am worried about is my age (20).. I really no idea if my doctor would prescribe me methadone. I dont know if Doc's are hesitant to prescribe something like that to someone my age.

Does anyone have any knowledge about doctors protocols in regards to methadone/ any input would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

No doctor is going to give you methadone. You have to go to a clinic for that, but that doesn't even matter, because no clinic is going to give you methadone with that much benzos in your system. It's incredibly dangerous... as has been said to you on here 4000 times.

 

[Pill__Head]

I believe because of the loclocation that i live, there are different circumstances. It is different than most other MMT facilities - have you have ever heard of such a place?

There is only one clinic in the whole "place".This clinic has only two doctors there who I know can prescribe most all things, including Methadone for sure.

I know this because I get the some methadones right from my older buddy ( who has 20+ YEARS IV heroin under his belt) prescription bottles from this same pharmacy, with the prescription written by one o the two doctors.


And what do you mean they wont Prescribe an addict Methadone because he takes some benzos? They don't blood test you before prescribe you do 'dones, would they? never heard such a thing.

 

[darriensmum]

Yes they typically drug test you before prescribing something like that, it would be irresponsible of them not to do that on top of incredibly dangerous. Done and benzos don't go well together for health purposes.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

I believe because of the loclocation that i live, there are different circumstances. It is different than most other MMT facilities - have you have ever heard of such a place?

There is only one clinic in the whole "place".This clinic has only two doctors there who I know can prescribe most all things, including Methadone for sure.

I know this because I get the some methadones right from my older buddy ( who has 20+ YEARS IV heroin under his belt) prescription bottles from this same pharmacy, with the prescription written by one o the two doctors.


And what do you mean they wont Prescribe an addict Methadone because he takes some benzos? They don't blood test you before prescribe you do 'dones, would they? never heard such a thing.

You've never heard of them drug testing you at a methadone clinic..? Of course they drug test you before you get on methadone, and randomly while you are on it. And if you have benzos in your system, especially high levels, they will not give you methadone.. because it is incredibly dangerous and a huge liability for them. They sometimes make exceptions if you are legitimately scripted a benzo, but only if it's a low dose.. Of course, there are clinics out there who just don't give a shit and will give anybody methadone. There are many reckless and really unethical clinics out there.

And what are you talking about this special "place" you live in with different circumstances..? Where do you live? And, in your OP you asked if a regular doctor would script you methadone, not a clinic, which they wont. So, if you're talking about going to a clinic, then yes you'd be able to get on methadone provided you meet their requirements.. but like I said, not while on those benzos.

 

[Pill__Head]

I live on an Island...and yes there are people on this island who are on methadone that was prescribed from the clinic here ( not methadone clinic ).

 

[Felonious Monk]

Well if you live in a special location that you won't disclose, that has special rules that only you know... well, you just answered your own question.

If you can get on methadone do it, it's better than the opiate addiction you currently have. But get off the alprazolam at the same time, cause you're liable to overdose from that mixture, especially if you start taking methadone daily.

 

[jeff71268]

Well if you live in a special location that you won't disclose, that has special rules that only you know... well, you just answered your own question.

If you can get on methadone do it, it's better than the opiate addiction you currently have. But get off the alprazolam at the same time, cause you're liable to overdose from that mixture, especially if you start taking methadone daily.

I agree..... on another note, How do we get to this island, and if they've been writing scripts for it, they must have ALOT stocked...I say we all go to the island,I'm 42 and I remember a island when I was a kid, little guy yelled "the plane, the plane" is this your island????

 

[Pill__Head]

I agree..... on another note, How do we get to this island, and if they've been writing scripts for it, they must have ALOT stocked...I say we all go to the island,I'm 42 and I remember a island when I was a kid, little guy yelled "the plane, the plane" is this your island????

The island is not THAT far from the "mainland" as to where you would have to have "ALOT" of meds stocked up..haha we're not quite that secluded out here, thankfully!

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

I live on an Island...and yes there are people on this island who are on methadone that was prescribed from the clinic here ( not methadone clinic ).

Okay.. well, if the place you live has such special and specific rules, why are you asking us about it then? You'd know better than us how it works where you are specifically. No matter what doctor is scripting you methadone, without a severe breach in ethics and responsibility, I can't see anyone giving you methadone while you are on huge doses of benzos like that.. unless they don't drug test in this special magical place you live in.. in which case, they'll find out when you randomly overdose one day and they do an autopsy.

 

[pinpoint]

I agree..... on another note, How do we get to this island, and if they've been writing scripts for it, they must have ALOT stocked...I say we all go to the island,I'm 42 and I remember a island when I was a kid, little guy yelled "the plane, the plane" is this your island????

LOL ZE PLANE! ZE PLANE!

This fucking thread though. 'Can I get on methadone (obtained from a special island clinic) while using pure alprazolam powder' ..the real question isn't whether you can, but rather, whether you should.

Regardless of special island rules there is not a single clinic in their right mind that will allow someone to be inducted who is simultaneously using illicitly-obtained benzodiazepines. If they do please let me know, I have some lawyers in my family who'd love to contact them.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

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Regardless of special island rules there is not a single clinic in their right mind that will allow someone to be inducted who is simultaneously using illicitly-obtained benzodiazepines. If they do please let me know, I have some lawyers in my family who'd love to contact them.

^^^

This. Exactly.

Clinics get shut down over that kind of breach in ethics and client endangerment, as they should.

 

[Zwanya]

Does anyone have any knowledge about doctors protocols in regards to methadone/ any input would be greatly appreciated!

From your posts it seems as though your "secret" island off the Mainland does things differently than virtually every other methadone clinic in existence, and that the doctors practice a unique form of addiction therapy that's different than anywhere else. So how can any of us offer you knowledge or input?

I imagine that even the secret doctor that you see would test you, and expect you to be off of the cannabis and free of your huge benzo intake before treating you with methadone. Even if it makes you feel great, methadone is still a treatment for addiction at the end of the day.

 

[bigshot1990]

I need to tell GILLIGAN to stop serving you those benzos

 

[Bad Bulldog]

I don't know where you live but I live in Massachusetts and I know both people that are prescribed Methadone in a clinic and they have to go there every day to receive their dose and I know a few people who are prescribed Methadone (along with some other pain medications) by a doctor for pain. One of the people I know that goes to a Methadone clinic every day has a doctor that writes him legit scripts for 2mg Klonopin a day and he gets 100mg of Methadone a day from the clinic. But unless you have severe pain and a history of pain treatment, no doctor is going to prescribe a 20 year old with no history of pain or accidents/injuries something as strong as Methadone, especially with such a high dosage of illegally obtained Xanax in your system. All doctors prescribing Methadone (or usually any pain medication) have to do drug tests at least every once in a while and as soon as they see you're taking such a high dose of Xanax with no script, they would never give you a script. If a doctor knowingly wrote you a script for Methadone for the purpose of managing your addiction and didn't drug test you (which would show illegal benzos in your system), they could be sued because you could easily overdose and die from Methadone and benzo combination. That's why even my friend who goes to the Methadone clinic and gets a legal Klonopin script from his doctor, has to go every day to the clinic. He can never get take homes due to risk of overdose if he took too much of his prescribed benzo.

 

[Pill__Head]

I will give an update on how my appointment goes this afternoon. Thanks for all of the input, guys/gals.

EDIT: I am curious about Suboxone. Is it as tightly regulated as Methadone is? Meaning you don't have to go do "sub" clinics or anything like that? Is bupe. as effective as methadone ?

Thanks

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^

No it is not as regulated. You can get bupe from a private doctor and get a months supply. As to your other question, it's not quite as addicting as methadone, and the withdrawals aren't as bad, but it is still very tough to get off.

 

[Pill__Head]

^^

No it is not as regulated. You can get bupe from a private doctor and get a months supply. As to your other question, it's not quite as addicting as methadone, and the withdrawals aren't as bad, but it is still very tough to get off.

Okay thanks, I guess this is my only other option if Im not able to get Methadone. Funny thing about this situation is that my sister works at the pharmacy here, as a tech, and said she knows I would be able to get Suboxone. But I would rather get Methadone, because i have used it before and know it's effective.

 

[pinpoint]

Okay thanks, I guess this is my only other option if Im not able to get Methadone. Funny thing about this situation is that my sister works at the pharmacy here, as a tech, and said she knows I would be able to get Suboxone. But I would rather get Methadone, because i have used it before and know it's effective.

I highly doubt you'll be able to get on ANY maintenance program including Suboxone due to your illicit use of benzodiazepines. Suboxone is the same as methadone in terms of the regulations surrounding drug testing.

 

[Pill__Head]

We will see in a few hours.