Need heroin advice

[justacrumb]

I'm going to be trying to get heroin soon for the 1st. time, actually it'll be the
first time I've tried to buy any drug off the streets and I admit I'm pretty nervous about it.
I was hoping to snort it but since I live close to San jose, California
from what i've read i'll have to try to find it either somewhere in san jose or santa cruz and from what
I've read on the internet the only thing that would be available in those areas(maybe all of California)
is the black tar stuff which i've read isn't normally snortable.

So I guess I have to use some liquid snort technique I read about or smoke it, i don't
like either option really but oh well.
The effect I want from the heroin would be about the same as I get when I take say
about 10mg oxycodone which doesn't make me feel super high or anything
but gives me enough relief.

Some on forums have said if you're new to heroin to try some the size of a matchstick head
but does that apply to Black tar heroin also ?
Would I try that much whether I smoked it or did the 'liquid snort' method ?
I know swallowing it is alot weaker but since it seems i'm looking for a much lower effect than many
on this forum would it be worth it just swallowing some ?

Also, even though I don't plan on using much at a time is there still a good chance
I'm going to get nauseated and start vomiting ?

Recent drug use if important :
nothing for last 2 or so weeks, before that I did liquid morphine for about
2.5 or 3 weeks at between 20mg-40mg per day if i remember right, then got
prescribed 20 5mg percocets did about 7.5mg-12.5mg per day for about 8-10 days, then got
prescibed 20 5mg percocets again for about 8-10 more days.

 

[THC2LSD]

I'm not sure how good the h is in San Jose, but if it's halfway decent I'd uses a match head size amount the first time, then go from there. Smoke it. Get foil as flat as possible, burn off the coating on the shiny side, use the dull side, heat up, tilt the foil to let it drip down, follow the blob with the flame by moving the foil, at the same time suck up smoke HARD with some kind of tube.

Street H is a bit dirtier than pure pharms. It's very intense, and you may get nauseous. Also it tastes like shit. Have a cup to spit in or a garbage can ready.

 

[mrflowers00]

the tar in the bay area is crap i know i live here but you don't want to do much if 10mg of oxycodone gets you high

 

[tricomb]

Beginner's Guide to Heroin

 

[rhun]

I live in one of the two areas you mentioned actually. Yes, there is only tar.. And bad tar at that. Which means you'd have to smoke it.. And it's really not worth the money.

Is there a specific reason you want to try H? You would be much better off trying a higher dose of oxy or morphine.. Or even freebasing a non OP oxy. Smoking tar has never come close to oxy for me and you have to deal with the nasty taste. If you puke it will be from that taste more than anything.

Also, if you don't have a hook you do not want to go out and look for it.. You have no idea what kind of crap you'll be getting. And in Santa Cruz Surenos working for the cartel sell it in all the places known for having H dealers.

 

[GemCaprica]

If you've never done heroin, don't start. The life sucks and the places you will find yourself you'll never believe.

However, if you are intent and determined, my best advice is to hook up with a friend that has been around and knows what they are doing. And, yes, you are going to puke. I say that because you don't seem like a heavy user of opiates and heroin tends to sneak up on you the first time you do it. Cuz, by just snorting or smoking you won't feel all that high and do more than you intended and it will make you sick. I know this from friends who snorted and smoked. I always mainlined. To me, if you don't mainline it ain't worth your trouble. Stick with the pills. Cleaner, neater and less chance of ruining your life. Please, reconsider.

 

[xuser]

Couldn't agree more GemCaprica

 

[rhun]

However, if you are intent and determined, my best advice is to hook up with a friend that has been around and knows what they are doing. And, yes, you are going to puke. I say that because you don't seem like a heavy user of opiates and heroin tends to sneak up on you the first time you do it. Cuz, by just snorting or smoking you won't feel all that high and do more than you intended and it will make you sick. I know this from friends who snorted and smoked. I always mainlined. To me, if you don't mainline it ain't worth your trouble. Stick with the pills. Cleaner, neater and less chance of ruining your life. Please, reconsider.

This.

Good, practical advice. And similiar to what I was saying about just staying with the Oxy.. I haven't read anything yet that would suggest that there's any reason or benefit for the OP to try H at this point.

 

[eldub v7.0]

If you've never done heroin, don't start. The life sucks and the places you will find yourself you'll never believe.

However, if you are intent and determined, my best advice is to hook up with a friend that has been around and knows what they are doing. And, yes, you are going to puke. I say that because you don't seem like a heavy user of opiates and heroin tends to sneak up on you the first time you do it. Cuz, by just snorting or smoking you won't feel all that high and do more than you intended and it will make you sick. I know this from friends who snorted and smoked. I always mainlined. To me, if you don't mainline it ain't worth your trouble. Stick with the pills. Cleaner, neater and less chance of ruining your life. Please, reconsider.

was the mainlining or the heroin the demise

However, if you are intent and determined, my best advice is to hook up with a friend that has been around and knows what they are doing.

great advice there. more often than not with the opiate ladder curiosity kills the cat, so why not keep it in as a controlled setting as possible. having someone sober is always a good move as well.

 

[Badback10]

I have been on 75 micrograms of fentanyl a day and that's way more then what yhou have been doing. Please think again maybe go to 10mg perc or higher oxy

 

[justacrumb]

Hey everybody thanks for the advice and tips, before I started this thread I hadn't posted
for awile but I've been reading this forum often though and trying to learn what I can.

It's not that I'm curious about heroin or looking for a greater high I just
need something to cope with some things.I would absolutely prefer to
stick to the pills I was doing but from what I can tell from the internet research
I've done I wouldn't be able to afford the street prices for very long.
and from what I've read it'd be even harder to find pills on the street than heroin.
So heroin seems the only choice since from what I can tell it's more in my price range.

Also, if you don't have a hook you do not want to go out and look for it.. You have no idea what kind of crap you'll be getting. And in Santa Cruz Surenos working for the cartel sell it in all the places known for having H dealers.

I appreciate that advice but at this time I absolutely don't know anyone really but family.
And yeah of the 2 cities Santa Cruz seems very sketchy also because I read about cops
cracking down on users and dealers which surprised me because I always thought that area was
mega liberal/progressive.
Unfortunately from reading on the internet it's the place that I have a little better idea of where
to go to find it.I'd feel more comfortable in San Jose but I got a do what I gotta do I guess.

If you've never done heroin, don't start. The life sucks and the places you will find yourself you'll never believe.

I appreciate that advice from you and others but I should say that I do have an idea how
things can turn out.
I think my advantage is that I have no desire to get a great high,I just want a few hours a day of
feeling my problem less.
I don't have any desire to go out and party and socialize, thus maybe using more.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

Don't start, honestly. I'm detoxing for the second time in 4 months and it's hell.

Strong as you think you are, it willl get you.

 

[trees_please]

Don't start, honestly. I'm detoxing for the second time in 4 months and it's hell.

Strong as you think you are, it willl get you.

this. ive never done heroin before, but i think about it somewhat regularly. that right there stops me dead in my tracks. i think of myself as pretty strong-willed and resilient, but like owen said, it will get you. and it hasnt gotten you yet. so i wouldnt let it. but thats me, and you make your own choices cus its your own life. just makes sure its a life you really want.

 

[THC2LSD]

Or even freebasing a non OP oxy.

Haven't you heard, smoking pills is a sin close to murder on Bluelight.

And yeah of the 2 cities Santa Cruz seems very sketchy also because I read about cops cracking down on users and dealers which surprised me because I always thought that area was mega liberal/progressive.

No one's liberal when it comes to hard drugs in the US. A progressive Democrat will side with a Fascist on the issue.

 

[F1n1shed]

I dont know why everyone is saying you will throw up, 10mg oxy can still get me buzzed and i was doing h every day although i stopped. Now if you want to snort tar just mix a few drops of water with a tiny little crum of tar in a bottle cap and let it mix. Then snort it up with a straw, or if you want get a syringe and prepare it as you would for shooting up but instead shoot the solution into your nose. Now with that being said, tar is real dirty stuff man. I was snorting it for a while and it ended up giving me pneumonia, i had to go to the hospital. And i generally never have issues with my body, when you snort the liquid it ends up getting stuck in your lungs and bacteria and all kinds of other shit grow. Even smoking it, you will notice your throat getting fucked up real quick and all sorts of other shit.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

It's not that I'm curious about heroin or looking for a greater high I just need something to cope with some things.

That is a bad sign. Using heroin to cope with stress, depression etc is a huge sign you will get addicted.

I would absolutely prefer to stick to the pills I was doing but from what I can tell from the internet research I've done I wouldn't be able to afford the street prices for very long. and from what I've read it'd be even harder to find pills on the street than heroin. So heroin seems the only choice since from what I can tell it's more in my price range.

You won't be able to afford heroin for very long either. Lots of people start out thinking it will be cheaper, and it may well be in the beginning, but your tolerance goes up very quickly and you will soon end up spending a lot of money on it. Many people end up switching to injection because they can no longer afford to snort it.

I appreciate that advice but at this time I absolutely don't know anyone really but family.
And yeah of the 2 cities Santa Cruz seems very sketchy also because I read about cops cracking down on users and dealers which surprised me because I always thought that area was
mega liberal/progressive.
Unfortunately from reading on the internet it's the place that I have a little better idea of where to go to find it. I'd feel more comfortable in San Jose but I got a do what I gotta do I guess.

You don't have to do this. You don't need heroin. Please consider working on your issues in healthier ways. Trying to score off the street when you don't know anyone is dangerous and you can easily get robbed, ripped off or sold something that isn't even heroin.

I appreciate that advice from you and others but I should say that I do have an idea how things can turn out.

No you don't, no one can really understand until they've been there unfortunately. 1 in 4 people who even try heroin end up hopelessly addicted. Being physically dependent on heroin is absolutely terrible, withdrawals are the worst feeling in the world. You may think it won't happen to you, but it can. You may think the risk is worth the reward but it really isn't.

I think my advantage is that I have no desire to get a great high,I just want a few hours a day of feeling my problem less. I don't have any desire to go out and party and socialize, thus maybe using more.

Again, that's a really bad sign. People who use heroin by themselves to cope with their problems are more likely to get addicted than people who do it for fun in a social setting.

 

[MartinFn]

Think it again, i would say..I understand that the problems you have to deal with, seems difficult, but believe me, getting a heroin addiction is one of the worst scenarios could happen in your life, and yeah, the thought "Of course i won't be an addicted person, i just need it for now, only" is right now in your mind, but believe me this thought has an 1% to happen, the 99% times people will use the stuff again, and again, since one day you wake up with a fuckin way of deppresion and you say like "what's the fuck up?.." and you understand that you've become addicted, and how much it suck and it completely ruins your life..This could be happen with the oxy too, but with heroin the difference is that it's already sure..Don't do it, i'm sure you deserve smth better, find an other way to deal with your problems(that i understand they might be very serious..), maybe find an other substance, it's better, for sure..fuck the h man, it's a slowly and painfully suicide, believe me, boy..


MartinFn

 

[rhun]

I appreciate that advice but at this time I absolutely don't know anyone really but family.
And yeah of the 2 cities Santa Cruz seems very sketchy also because I read about cops
cracking down on users and dealers which surprised me because I always thought that area was
mega liberal/progressive.
Unfortunately from reading on the internet it's the place that I have a little better idea of where
to go to find it.I'd feel more comfortable in San Jose but I got a do what I gotta do I guess..

Wait so you're going to go try and score somewhere because you read in some newspaper article that it's a popular place to buy heroin? All the well known places in Santa Cruz mentioned in the internet like Heroin Hill are also frequented by police officers, both in uniform and undercover. I sincerely doubt a real dealer will sell to you since they can tell if you've never done H before but I'm sure an undercover would be happy to sell you a bag. And yes, we're mostly liberal in Santa Cruz but political views have nothing to do with it. Cartels are making money at the expense of human lives, selling low quality sludge to the unfortunate. Great hiking trails have become a wasteland of needles, foil, and sleeping bags. It's an epidemic that the people in this town are trying to end, not encourage so someone can go give their money to gangbangers (who use the money for more drugs and guns) so they can try heroin "just cause."

I'm sorry if I sound harsh, I'm sure you're going through a hard time. But you don't just go out and try H on a whim. Try taking a Vicodin or smoking pot if you're dead set on taking your mind of things using some kind of drug. Or get more of the Percs you said you took before. But people don't just decide on day they're going to do tar, that's just ridiculous. If you don't have access to it then just realize that it's probably for a good reason. If you're feeling overwhelmed by your problems maybe you should talk to your doctor, they can refer you to someone who can help you.

Also the desired effects you describe don't match up. You said you only want to do it a couple hours a day and you don't want to get high which in my experience doesn't match H. I think you're getting a little too far ahead of yourself with the price thing.. Plus you can't research a drug addiction and go out and buy it like a new car, it doesn't work that way. It almost seems you like would like to be addicted so you want to do H instead of struggling with addiction and ending up doing H as a result. I know sometimes it may seem like drowning your problems in drugs is a way out and would be a relief, it's really not. All your problems will still be there plus new problems created by addiction. It will be a hundred times worse than what you're going through now.

 

[rhun]

Haven't you heard, smoking pills is a sin close to murder on Bluelight.

Haha I know. And I don't disagree. I live in a town though were Oxy use is really popular with people ages 16-22 especially and they wouldn't be caught dead IVing or plugging them so everyone pretty much snorts or smokes them. They don't really care about BA or anything, all they care is whether they can use their preferred RoA.

 

[Zarathustra1313]

Don't do it.

Like was posted prior, the drug WILL get the better of you,every time.

Heroin, pills, etc are not the way to deal with your mental anguish. Talking to people and seeking qualified medical help are.

I'm not just a straight edge anti-drug zealot. I am celebrating my 24th day of sobriety after 8 years of pills/heroin abuse and am speaking from personal experience.

Please DO NOT START!