Stimulants Need advice on stopping a serious IV addiction to Amphetamine Sulphate

[DoctorSativa]

PLEASE HELP!!! I have a serious addiction to Amphetamine Sulphate

Hey guys,

I desperately need advice on how to best stop a hardcore psychological addiction to speed / Amphetamine Sulphate. For anyone who doesn't want to read what I wrote these are my two questions:

• Will MDPV help stop the habit psychologically and physically? Will it solve my ADD symptoms?
• Should I see an addiction psychiatrist and ask to be tapered off with Dexedrine, and then switch to Modafil / Provigil? I have to change to Modafil eventually.

Anyways, this is how it started. I have been using Amphetamine Sulphate (aka Speed), incredibly pure and straight from the chemist, for about six months. ROA has been IV. I have come to a self-realization that continuing using this drug this way is not going to lead my life to a place that is good. By the way, for anyone considering trying speed or shooting anything for their first time, just don't do it. If you want to feel good order some MDMA! %)

I started my dosing at 20mg's IV'd, same source as I have now, and that would make me VERY high, just as good as a great roll makes you feel. I could say so much more about having no comedown and staying up for days but I don't want to glorify it.

It's now been six months after shooting it for the first time, and my dose is now at 160+mg per day IV'd. Same source as when it started; same stuff. I need to stop this habit NOW or else the social aid work I do will be impacted, which in turn impacts children and stuff which is a fucking unacceptable consequence of my habit. I don't mind hurting myself but when it comes to hurting other people I just can't do it.

I have made an appointment with an addiction psychiatrist to help me find a solution. I have legitimate, moderately severe ADD which is how the addiction started in the first place. It was solved with Dexedrine and I always would of stayed on Dex but it's not available internationally so I had to take the illegal version with me. Or use fucking Ritalin, which isn't even a drug when compared to speed or Dex. I am going to ask this guy to taper me off with Dexidrine and then switch me over to Modalert / Modafil / Provigil (which is a prodrug to something similar to amphetamine, right... w/o the abuse potential?). Modalert is available internationally, where I work.

Is tapering off speed with Dex acceptable - I at least need to do it psychologically if not physically, I am psychologically addicted as hell right now and couldn't stop using speed if my own life depended on it (but it's not my life in this case, it's other people's, so I can stop).

Do not tell me to go to Rehab. The moment I'm put in a place with rules I break them, which got me kicked out two months ago from a treatment center when I ordered alprazolam powder vacuum sealed inside a bottle of Vaseline after they wouldn't prescribe me ADD meds or benzos. Lol... addicts are indeed devious.

As you may be able to tell from this post I am obviously still using the amphetamine daily and used it this morning. The fucking way I feel right now is so fucking incredible and indescribable, no wonder this drug ruins so many lives, and I can't blame the people using for not being able to stop. Addiction is indeed a disease. HELP PLEASE!!!!!

Thanks everyone...

Dr. S

P.s. - I have heard using MDPV helps people stop using meth?? I have access to any drug in existence (do not message me for sources, I will report you) so should I get some of that stuff to help with the psychological side of the problem? Will it also solve the ADD issues? Or should I go the legal route I stated earlier?

Seriously, thank you again everyone for your time and sorry for the long post...

 

[Non Nobis Solum]

MDPV is dangerous, simply do not use.. You think your addiction is bad now, don't even start with MDPV.. I friend once described MDPV to me as this, "It's like you've been shooting meth for a week straight on your first dose." NO BUENO!! It will ruin your life.... Thanks for following the BLUA.. And you need to do some more research, I am speeding at the moment and took the time to break from my meal to write you this... I hope you find the help you require and I think Provagil is your best bet if you cannot cold turkey... I am RX 3 d-meth/amphetamine products, and I am not addicted to amphetamines.. You have the right mindset, you want to get better and you will get better bro.. Stay safe, stay informed... Feel free to PM to get a discussion going to better yourself.. Right now I must get back to my food before my appetite is gone.... As always, stay safe and stay informed....


< ---- This is by far my worst BL post.. I apologize, I want to help you so please, if you are interested don't hesitate to drop me a PM.

 

[DoctorSativa]

No, you were very helpful actually. Thanks for the warning about MDPV, the seller says it is good for stopping amphetamine use but of course he's gonna say that. It sounds terrible. Being RX'd amphetamines can't get you that addicted of course - my habit has gotten to the same point as being RX'd 240mg's of Dexidrine a day (same as shooting 120mg's of amphetamine sulphate). I don't think any docs would give me that much, lol

Having the right mindset is definitely the first step to getting off the substance and you reminded me of that fact. Thanks a lot man, you made my entire afternoon.

 

[Amphetafiendd]

I've been clean for a bit over 4weeks now from a serious IV methamphetamine habit. The only way that I found effective after numerous attempts. Clear your house of everything relating to drug behavior. Cut yourself off from pretty much all of your friends. Keep your hands busy. Low-dose valium (2mg every couple of hours) really helped me with some of the jitters and anxiety over the first 2 weeks. It WONT be easy.

 

[DoctorSativa]

I've been clean for a bit over 4weeks now from a serious IV methamphetamine habit. The only way that I found effective after numerous attempts. Clear your house of everything relating to drug behavior. Cut yourself off from pretty much all of your friends. Keep your hands busy. Low-dose valium (2mg every couple of hours) really helped me with some of the jitters and anxiety over the first 2 weeks. It WONT be easy.

Congratulations and good to hear about your success. I'm sure I'll be fine.

 

[DoseLuck]

I actually just got into speed about two weeks ago.. To first get started on kicking an addiction you have to get yourself in a confident state if mind that you can do it.. If you aren't confident you won't ever be able to quit

 

[DoseLuck]

DoctorSativa does speed make your joints like elbows and knees hurt really bad after you come down or is that just me

 

[DoctorSativa]

DoctorSativa does speed make your joints like elbows and knees hurt really bad after you come down or is that just me

Yeah, like I said, I will be fine. And DoesLuck, PM questions like that it's not too good to thread hijack with random q's, I realize you're new here no offense. No, sometimes my muscles need to be massaged (like my back) since i've been up for a week or more on no sleep and feeling fine. I seriously haven't slept since I posted this thread and feel fucking fine, like I just woke up in the morning and got high. Lol, anyway, stopping on Monday. I don't know what a comedown is %)

 

[opiatekrzy]

Most doctors will rudely laugh or sigh at how deeply dependent and addicted you are asking for a taper schedule to get off amphetamines, unless you have a doctor whom you been under they're care for several years or a doctor that is nieve or a straight people pleaser to an I extent . Amphetamines are not physically addictive and pose no health danger to anyone that is life threatening, like benzos for example in which you will needs taper. I never understood how amphetamines are a schedule II federally controlled substance , while benzodiazepines are a Schedule IV < has low potential for abuse and dependency[hello Xanax,Klonopin and Valium, & Ativan? How many anxiety and panic attacks have you prevented today? How many grieving loved ones are you temporarily keeping calm in a time of grieving? Hey Valium- how many alcoholics did you prevent from having dts and seizures or possible life threatening WD symptoms? Uh..also Klonopin are you still doing a good job for certain people that react positively to you as an anticonvulsant? Matter fact all you benzo FAMILY members! how many people died today due to your lack of regard for human life? How many benzo withdrawals where there today nationwide, how many were ultimately death? How many exaggerated certain peoples other medical issues such as high blood pressure and sparked a lethal heart attack? How many people got away with just DTs or hallucinations and just committed suicide for what ever reason they're hallucination felt it was justified? How many people are just that desperate they put a gun to a pharmacists skull and demanded benzos to stop the pain or in fear of death? I'm sorry it's not the family's fault, forgive me- it's to blame doctors over prescribing it without proper knowledge of exactly how dangerous they are and what MG dose not to go above so they can avoid possibility of life threatening withdrawl.. Currently has accepted medical use [i didn't memorize the schedule for exact word for exact word before I get bashed. Schedule II substances have a very high potential for abuse and dependency , they are highly monitored and regulated drugs and currently have an accepted medical use n the US [* howdy cocaine and meth[How many members in the Cartel for the cocaine and meth trade happen to murder families of one family fuck up that owed a debt??] Hey how how many people suffer neurological long term side effects such as involuntary facial movements, new mental health problems and diagnosis? How many dentists are racking up cash due to all the tooth decay these chemicals cause in ones mouth, or dehydration leading to dry teeth.how many police officers killed on duty against the drug ear in ghettos in every city nationwide?, and how much did your day destroy lives in the past 12 hours Fentanyl, Opana , Dilaudid??? How many suboxone doctors are getting rich off of people's misery and opiate dependency? Only for a vast percentage to sell they're suboxone and feed someone else's dependency just for cash to use heroin or substitute to cocaine or benzos. Cocaine should be a schedule I, they're are plenty of other local anesthetics that can be used for facial surgery besides cocaine. Methamphetamine is a shocking one to be legal, medically speaking, however should be cautiously prescribed and the patients history thoroughly examined if worst case this needs to be used, however hospitals have use for it bringing people out of comas, or wake Up, or unthaw an accident victim that won't survive only for the family to say goodbye and give the victim the energy and mental recollection to be aware. Maybe I went erratic with this post, my apologies, compliments for day 2 no sleep due to first trying crystal meth.


whoops! To all the big bang theory personality type blue lighters , the ones who spend 8hrs a day on here and send my notifications that. They were highly offended I provided false information on a thread....I apologize if any "false" information was typed by me, Dr. Certain blue lighters with an M.D. Hey it seems like whoever got highly offended at me for stating "Adderall isn't good to snort, it is a big tablet with only 30mg the most, a mixture of amphetamines with diff base forms that I'm sure are more or less soluble than the other, plus all the inactive ingredients that aren't water soluble, fillers and binders that will just plug ur nose or leave a lot of the actual active ingredient not absorbed in the mucous membranes in the nose, not saying it won't work, you either will swallow it anyway or end up picking all the orange paste out of your nose...I mentioned Ritalin IR tablets AKA methylphenidate HCI is much more efficient for snorting, smaller tablets. Higher bio difference intranasally VS orally, being methylphenidate "HCI" it is a salt that is highly water soluble and most of the active ingredient will be absorbed . I didn't know that was false, it may be truth to it, but if you take offense whoever u are, I think you need to see a therapist and find healthy activities that involve other human beings. Human interaction is vital by nature, I don't care if you been a blue lighter for 1-5yrs or whatever and have twice as many posts as me for my ten yr membership here, it's not a contest. AGAIN SORRY FOR DRIFTING OFF TOPIC ,making more apologies if I offend anyone, I'm going to take my sleep deprived, miserable butt to sleep.

 

[DoctorSativa]

Even as high as I am I still cannot answer all those questions, lol. But I got your main points and thank you for the feedback.