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Mushie Hunting Season 2003

Re: weird shrooms

ddavoport said:
went picking and found the strangest shroom. never seen anything like them on web but they definately brused bright blue very quickely which made me think they may be edible. of course i didnt eat them tho.

they were huge, about 13cm in diamiter
golden brown top
gills were Bright taxy yellow and big
bruised bright gumboot blue when lightly touched
stem was about an inch thick

just out of curiosity did i waist sum good shrooms by throwing them out? anyone heard of them and are they edible

sounds like a gilled bolete. avoid, probably poisonous. if it blued (bright blue!) almost instantly after touching it, it is most likely this. i have found these before.

shorza, i've found the wavy capped variant of p. subs and my specimens didnt look like yours! yours are a spitting image of p. cyanescens to my eye! post it on the mushroom hunting forum at the shroomery! (:

edit : the smaller mushroom on the right of the photo looks like a p. sub however... probably wavey capped variety. that one just isn't big enough to get wavey! beautiful photo tho :) can see the blueing at the base of the stem
 
i think i've consumed a few of those wavy variants of p.subs before, they were growing next to normal ones.

Are they still active? and if what i consumed are p.cyanecens are they active mushrooms?
 
en_warp - it's scary that you don't know exactly what you're consuming! but in answer to your questions, yes the wavy capped variant of subaeruginosa is active (just make sure it has the right gill structure, right spore print, bruises blue), and while it's doubtful you found cyanescens, yes cyanescens is active. cyanescens is very closely related to subaeruginosa - hence the potency and macroscopic similarities
 
^^^^
all the shrooms i've picked have been active, have bruised blue and have been p.subs. i was just unsure as i'm sure i've seen a few wavy ones here and there right next to normal ones.

anyway thanks for that bit of info
 
cammac - not sure... it all depends i guess! most likely it wouldnt fruit at all till next season, but you could strike it lucky (: after that i suppose it's a bit exponential, the mycelium spreads fairly rapidly and aggressively, spores probably start more beds in close areas.. etc, most sub patches seem to be fairly big, so once it's established, should be sweeeeet :)
 
Got about 10 fresh subs today :-) and i want to save them so i dried them out for about 3-4 hours infront of my heater which was on its medium level, not more than 40 degrees. Anyways after that they seemed dry enough so i proceeded to grind them in an electric coffee grinder so i could store it in honey. Now im left with about 1.5g of very dark blue/black coloured powder (oxidization?).. Theres a few small clumps because there is still some moisture left and its sticking to the side of the jar. Anyhow i read that it should be completelly dry before I pour honey on it so it doesnt start to rot in the honey, its in a plastic jar right now. My question is what is the best way to dry it further and how can I tell if its gone bad and shouldnt be consumed?
Thanks in advance

PS next time ill know to dry them out longer...8(
 
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Yeah, they really should have been dried completely before grinding. Not too sure how much potency would have been lost due to oxidization.

Your best bet is to probably just eat them asap. Share them with a friend for best results. :)
 
just got back from my hunt in the blue mountains and was unsuccessful :(

i found lots of the red slimy cap/reddish stem mushrooms and a couple of LBM that had white gills but no subs :( :( :( :( :( :(

i found a shitload of mulch areas too and only one had any mushrooms in it :(
 
Jimbu: I poured about 3cm of honey over my dried ground up shrooms and mixed it up. Its turned a little darker now though so i was wondering how long i could keep it for before it goes bad?
 
if they were cracker dry, they should be preserved indefinitely! i've read positive reports of 5yr old honey still being 100% potent. if they have moisture in them, im not sure, but seeing as the powder was fairly dry, u should be fine :) just work out how much of the honey is 1 dose, and you're sweet! :D
 
i haven't found any subs before :(

i went on another hunt yeterday to lane cove and found literally 500 or more of the golden/red capped mushrooms that look quite a lot like subs. it was so frustrating! if only they were subs! haha

i know they weren't because they had white stems with red/orange tinges and the gills were reasonably spread out and a white/creamy grey colour.

i was thinking about doing a trip to the blue mountains but i'm worried i won't find anything again and waste all that time. :(
 
i don't understand, i must be doing something wrong.

my hunt in the blue mountains was mid-morning after it had been raining all night. it was quite cold up there and also quite foggy. i checked a lot of different mulch beds and parks and none of them had a single mushroom except one which was a park at the bottom of a small deep valley and they were just the typical red/orange with white/red stalks that grow in mulch everywhere. it had rained, it was cold, i checked mulch beds and didn't find anything...?

then, when i went on a hunt at lane cove the other day (raining for a couple of days straight and it hadn't gotten over 14 degrees in the city so it would definately have been cold enough overnight) i found hundreds of the typical red/orange ones i described above. actually, i found around 15 different species of mushrooms all growing in a mix of garden bed mulch and natural tree mulch. i don't understand because it was wet, it was cold, there were hundreds of other kinds of mushrooms around but no psilocybes :(

what am i doing wrong? or am i just unlucky?
 
Those red ones usually grow in close proximity to subs (or so i've found) they are also woodlovers...so have a close look, cos often subs will be in the area too. I think they're called stropharia...
 
i always get a couple with every large batch i get. they get filtered out at the drying process...
 
yeah the red ones are most likely stropharia aurantiaca... it's pretty easy to tell the difference between these and sub's.

caveman - i suppose you're just unlucky! it took me about 5 or more trips to the blue mountains before i found anything at all... when i finally was successful, i found two spots, one had a huge number, the other a small number... a few weeks later, back up there again and it was the other way around, the one which had a huge number the first time had next to none (already picked? i dont know) and the other spot had them everywhere, unfortunately alot had begun to rot due to several days of on and off rain at the time
 
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