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Mushie Hunting Season 2003

I personally have never felt the need to eat anything over 3 to 4 subs.

Oh, i'm sorry if i insulted you steve. It probably would have been better if you had written something like:

They were from two different places, I don't think they were weak, I think I just want to be where 25 won't take you.
I'll have to try more next time.

Although, this is highly unrecomended for beginners. If new to mushrooms, try taking a dose like 3 subs or less when starting out.
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mmm i think alot of people overlook the fact that just because psilocybin can't PHYSICALLY damage you (at least in the dosage range we have them), doesn't mean they can't damage you...

Your mental health is of utmost importance! and i'd be very careful in having high doses of mushrooms, especially if you haven't had lots of experience with mushrooms before and slowly worked up to that dose. there are things to worry about, you CAN cause yourself damage, perhaps irreversable mental damage that you will regret. alot of people report a change in their personality (sometimes positive sometimes negative) after a strong psychadelic experience.

as for the paternal thing, we care... thats all it is. you can fuck yourself up, and im sure no one here wants you to do that!

as for the varying dosage thing.. it's so true. on my first subaeruginosa trip i ate only 4 medium sized mushies and tripped twice as hard as i've ever tripped since then on 10+ of them (and that has nothing to do with tolerance). it's very possible that you had 25 mushrooms which were somehow less potent than average.

like others here have recommended, it would probably be best for you to try eating the same amount as before and see if you trip harder, or perhaps grinding them up into powder (or storing dried mushies in honey works too) so as to have even dosages throughout the mixture.

if you're going to increase the dosage, do it slowly.... especially with subaeruginosa, of which one mushroom could be ULTRA-potent... that 26th mushroom could happen to take you far above the 25th!

cheers,
jimbu
 
This may sound stupid, but is there a way to tell the difference between the potency in p.subs? eg, a darker and bigger stain of blue.
 
Good point.

This has got me thinking, what is your *average* dose? As i stated before, I had never felt the need to go over 4 medium sized shrooms.
 
jimbu said:

Your mental health is of utmost importance! and i'd be very careful in having high doses of mushrooms, especially if you haven't had lots of experience with mushrooms before and slowly worked up to that dose. there are things to worry about, you CAN cause yourself damage, perhaps irreversable mental damage that you will regret. alot of people report a change in their personality (sometimes positive sometimes negative) after a strong psychadelic experience.
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lol I haven't been the same since I K-holed it (I have a trip report somewhere PM me if you want it.) It changed my personal philosophy alot.
To tell you the truth, I am precisely looking for a mind changing experience from mushrooms (who wouldn't after reading The Archaic Revival!)
And BTW, half were from my yard, half were from somewhere else completely. While it is a possibility, I highly doubt that both batches were weak. I was tripping pretty damn hard, but like I said, nothing special.
Interesting that while some here advocate low doses of shrooms, Terrance McKenna (probably considered the ambassador of mushrooms, and highly knowledgable in the area) advocates 'heroic doses' and says "if in doubt, double the dose"
Of course he is talking about using for explorative purposes, not recreation.
I guess it's all a matter of opinion really.
 
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Everyone knows their limits.
If you don't, START SMALL.

I can't even imagine what 10 shrooms would do to me, when 4 blow my mind.
Who knows, one day i may even try 5!! 8o
 
lol shorza, you have a very low natural tolerance? nice :D


en_warp - theres actually no way to tell if one is going to be more potent than another, really :( like i said, best way 2 work out potency is simply to mix a large dried amount (cut up or powdered) into honey, or powder it all, that way one dose is exactly the same as the next :)
 
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how is the proper way to dry them without letting them get all mouldy. Also, to powder them do u just use a knife or something?
 
noooooo drying is fairly easy, but it's not as easy as chucking them in a paper bag...

if you don't dry them properly, they might rot, and they will lose their potency alot faster (water = oxidation?).

anyways - the way most people find the best is to sit your mushrooms infront of a strong fan for 24 hours, then transfer them to a drying chamber... a drying chamber is basically a container (eg. tupperware container) with a drying agent such as calcium chloride (available from ur supermarket as "damprid" or a similar product). most people use chickenwire or whatever to keep their mushrooms from touching the calcium chloride.. so yea be creative and make a drying chamber, make sure your mushies aren't close to touching the drying stuff, and you should be sweet :)

usually 24 hours in the drying chamber after fan is supposed to be fine, but it depends how good your fan and drying chamber are i spose..... you want the mushrooms to be 'cracker dry' (snap dry. if u bend the stem it will SNAP!) for long term storage. once you have dry mushrooms it is easy to powder them or break them up 2 store them in honey or whatnot :)
 
eachmethod of storage has it's pro's and con's...

i've heard good reports on powdering and putting in a jar, removing any oxygen by either pouring CO2 in (vinegar + bicarb soda) or lighting a candle to burn out the oxygen - and this lasting for years with no noticeable loss of potency...

the other advantage of powder is measuring out doses.... you've got your well mixed powder so 1 gram or 1 teaspoon is exactly the dose you expect it to be. alot 'safer' than eating some, expecting a light trip and being flung into a trip you're not expecting!

powder or broken dried shrooms into honey seems to be the other good method... if done properly, there are reports of no potency loss after years. honey has been used to store/preserve things for years. it completely prevents oxidation, and if your mushrooms are completely dry, then you shouldn't have any problems. apparently if they're wet, the mixture becomes all gross and gooey, turns blue (oxidation) and you might even have bugs start hatching in there! gross! so if you're going to store in honey, make sure they're cracker dry :)

i still think honey is the best option for long term storage.

of course if you've got some good local patches, then theres no need to worry about this sort of storage, as you can pick/eat them when you like, season permitting
 
Old crumblie mushies

I found some mushies...but their old and rotting...really crumblie...will they still work???
 
ummmmm if they're rotting, thats BAD! don't eat them!

if they're cracker dry, they shouldnt rot...

if they're bad, dont eat them, just find some more
 
^^^ some people believe it saves them from an overly intense trip, some people think it intensifies the trip.

basically its a placebo effect and the vitamin c has nothing at all to do with the trip.

mind and mindset is all it is.
 
hey i got smoe p.subs that have been sitting in newspaper for about 1 months now. They have turned black but are really dry and they have shrunk shit loads.

i'm thinking that they are rotten.
is this how they are suppose to turn?
or am i right and they are rotten.
 
I second Shorza, I'm also one of the "get mindbogglingly fucked from 4 decent size shrooms" school. Though that could also be the difference between Canberra & Melbourne mushrooms. ;)

Vitamin C is just a good antioxidant, so while it shouldn't affect your trip at all, it should ensure that any free radicals created by the psilocybin are mopped up faster than your body otherwise would be able to.

Shrooms officially rule, the drug with no sketch, no comedown, and the best consistent visuals that I've had from ANYTHING psychadelic I've consumed over the years. :D

-plaz out-
 
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Here Here!

So how has the season treated you all thus far?

Was shown some great patches today (cheers for that dude! =D )that were a tad young, but we still got a nice little harvest of around 30 p.subs or more. The patches should be perfect in the next few days - the anticipation is KILLING me, I feel like a 5 year old on December 23rd!
 
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