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Harm Reduction Much more efficient intranasal

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Bluelighter
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Not sure if this is the right forum for this, but if you've been snorting stuff with a bill or tube of any kind, you've been doing it wrong.

I know how that sounds, but check this out:

You will need:
- bendy drinking straw
- some kind of soft tape or wax **** EDIT - Parafilm is the ideal thing

Blow it up your nose

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So the deal with conventional snorting is that you're basically inhaling the powder through your nose; a good deal of it, if not most, just goes down into your lungs. Some of it gets into your nasal membrane, but the path of the air draws the powder over the floor of your sinus cavity and down your throat, totally missing all that surface area in your upper sinus.

Enter the humble drinking straw, cut to length (see the link), with one end padded with tape to make it easier on your nose. The other end, after scooping up your powder, is put in the mouth. You then blow the powder up your nose through the straw.

The benefits of this approach are:
- When you exhale, the flap at the back of your throat closes, preventing powder from getting down into your lungs. This also leaves no other path for the powder than to evenly coat your entire sinus, and exit out the other nostril. So basically it gives you total coverage with WAY more absorption without getting any shit in your lungs. It also works even if you have a stuffy nose.

One tip is to inhale completely (fill your lungs with air) before putting the straw in your mouth. You are so conditioned to inhale drugs that you will otherwise almost certainly inhale a lungful of powder.

Paradocs
 
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For a person that perfers insufflation above all I thank you for this. I will definitely give it a try and report back... Sounds pretty easy
 
This is an interesting suggestion that I hadn't heard before, but I think it would actually reduce the effective dose for many drugs. Absorption into the bloodstream in the lung is generally more efficient than across nasal mucosa. The product web page that you linked to actually alludes to this, but they are thinking of it as a benefit for drugs that would be too potent if inhaled into the lung.

Of course, this depends on the drug and how much mucus you have in your sinuses and lungs. I do agree that any drug that fell in the larger pulmonary passageways or got into your esophagus would not be absorbed very efficiently.

How about hedging your bets by doing both?
 
You can also mix you goodies in a liquid saline solution and fill a nasal inhaler (like an empty Afrin bottle or any other nasal decongestant that you squeeze into your nostrils).

A while back I did a post giving step by step instruction on making a hydromorphone nasal spray that worked like a charm.

Your trick is interesting as well.

Druggies are so inventive!
 
I have always wanted a different approach to doing my Opana, I have heard all the myths behind it and even tried to experiment a few time. I even ended up finding a way to extract the oxymorphone from the pills without the whole gel matrix bullshit and snorted the liquid, but this intrests me.

So I get this straight for us pill users:

1: Crush pill
2: Place powder on tongue in a mound
3: Put drinking straw up your nose and in your mouth
4: Exhale, blowing through the straw and thus putting powder up the nose

Did I get that right, Im not sure if that's what the OP meant but that's how I took it and I don't wanna waste an Opana if I don't have to.
 
^that sounds like what they said..
im sticking to regular snorting when the need comes, but everyone who tries this, keep the rest of us updated on how well it works compared to just snorting the "regular- old fashioned" way.
 
I will write a full update on Friday.

Just thinking of this though, instead of putting the powder in my mouth, why not just put it in the straw then blow it up using the same method?
 
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Why would you put the drugs on your tongue where they will stick? Why not put them in the straw?

paradox said:
Enter the humble drinking straw, cut to length (see the link), with one end padded with tape to make it easier on your nose. The other end, after scooping up your powder, is put in the mouth. You then blow the powder up your nose through the straw.
 
the last 2 posts ^ make more since than putting the drug in question on your tongue as you will lose a lot of it due to sticking and saliva starting the chemical digestion of the drug..
I agree, put the powder in the straw. Good call guys. I don't know who to give credit to.. let me check post times.. and the winner by 2min is C2TL lol.. good idea man.
 
^Its not my idea, I think its what the OP meant originally by 'scoop up the powder with the straw' before you put it in your mouth.
 
Oh, well then.....good game.

Thinking of it now, does anyone know exactly how much more effective this is? In the intrest of harm reduction I would suggest that maybe people start with 1/2 their regular dose if they try this. I would hate to see someone who normally rails oxy 80s use an improvised technique like the one in this thread and find out it's like 4x more effective and OD.

Until we get more reports back I suggest people don't use their normal dosing if they test this method.
 
haha happy to contribute what I can.

As for the issues raised, the powder gets loaded into the straw and not on the tongue, for the reasons stated above. You can actually get even more creative with the design by cutting a little bevel in the mouth end to aid in the scooping... man, this starting to feel like some kinda junkie crafting.

Other people blowing drugs up your nose: Its gross, 1st off, secondly it doesn't have that benefit of closing of the epiglottis (flap... i think) on the exhale, so effectively they're just blowing into your lungs.

The reason why lung inhalation is bad is that insoluble particulate under 10 um in diameter gets lodged deep in the lungs, where there aren't any of those little hairs that move mucus and shit out. This mostly applies to snorting pills and drugs cut with insolubles, but it can take 3 months or more to clear these deeper parts of the lungs.

As for potency, I haven't noticed much of a change in the effective dose, but everything does seem to get absorbed MUCH faster- sometimes it feels like youre blowing it right into your brain. It also gets rid of the problem of those inexcusable deposits of powder in your nostrils. Just make sure to butt the padded end up against your sinus opening, like all the way up your nose.
 
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^ Good, if potency isn't an issue then I say this is an intresting idea, man I can't wait to get my 40mg Opanas and give this a shot. As for the sharing, yea, bad news.

Thanks for this post doc, looks cool.
 
It doesn't seem like this can really be that more efficient. When you snort something the traditional way if you make sure you don't snort too hard you really aren't wasting that much, but i suppose I'll give this a try later just because i have some bendy straws in my cupboard lol
 
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