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Harm Reduction Much more efficient intranasal

The amount lost in the bulb would be very minimal especially once the inside gets a small layer of powder on the inside and absorbs any moisture.
A couple things to do would be to line the inside with a non toxic powder such as flour or something to draw out any moisture that may be in the bulb, then keep squeezing until no more flour comes out.

Or you could get a suction syringe(same thing basically) that has a long, detachable, clear plastic or glass applicator that can be cleaned or scraped if necessary. I think if you can suck your dose in slow enough, gravity would prevent the powder from going into the bulb and stay in applicator. You could also preload a straw as first mentioned and fit a bulb over that.
 
Not sure if this is what u meant but it gave me an idea...an aspirator that has a large cap on the bottom of the bulb for cleaning purposes could be used, one could then open the cap and pour the dose directly into/onto the base of the narrow part, close the cap while keeping the aspirator upside down, tilt head back, keeping the aspirator upside down through out entire process, and then squeeze the bulb, shooting the powder into ones nose. This would avoid any powder getting stuck inside the bulb and make loading the powder easier. But, will the powder fall out of the tip or not IDK, and how much powder is lost to the narrow portion IDK either. Some brave experimenter may be able to enlighten us all, it would be great to have a method that keeps all that powder out of ones lungs.....
 
i need one of this.i have a chronic sinus infection from snorting various things over the past 4 years. i snorted 2.5gs of molly in a night.
 
A turkey baster is a perfect example of what I was saying and would probably work actually lol.

Simply suck your dose in slow enough that it doesn't reach the bulb. Or even better remove the end and make something that acts as a trapped door inside the tip that releases with air. Then you could just drop your does in, give it a tap and use when ready.

But your idea waldo is even better if the trapped door effect can be achieved. You can also use a little funnel or something to drop your dose right into the neck. Product loss will be insignificant to none.
 
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Wow it's not too often somebody shows me something new as far as ingesting drugs goes, but here it is. Genius.
 
this shit looks like too much trouble.

a common misconception is that people think that the nasal membranes are these small things in our heads, when really they are these huge cavities.

if one snorts lightly and not too hard, i don't see why conventional snorting can't be just as effective. besides i wouldn't want any bacteria from my mouth (seeing as it's the dirtiest thing on the planet) shooting up into my nasal membranes either.
 
Korn3x said:
this shit looks like too much trouble.

a common misconception is that people think that the nasal membranes are these small things in our heads, when really they are these huge cavities.

if one snorts lightly and not too hard, i don't see why conventional snorting can't be just as effective. besides i wouldn't want any bacteria from my mouth (seeing as it's the dirtiest thing on the planet) shooting up into my nasal membranes either.
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But you are comfortable inhaling insoluble fillers into your lungs?

What makes you think that you would be able to snort with JUST enough force to get the powder into your nose, but light enough so that nothing gets sucked down into your lungs.
 
so I just tried this. added a little thickness to the end of the straw w/tape and stuck a rubber headphone earbud over it, created a perfect seal. blew it all up there in one quick breath and it really feels like I hit the spot. we'll know in a few minutes I guess.

my only complaint is that there is quite a bit of powder left in the straw, I think it's from the moisture I left in there while doing a dry run. I'm snorting OC10s, so I'm sure it's less than a mg of active in this case, but if I was snorting 40s or 80s that would be a lot of oxy lost. I guess I could recover it by drinking through the straw but that kind of defeats the purpose...

EDIT: works perfectly. getting a nice drip now, and I'm probably a little higher than I should be off the small amount I used. even if it's only useful for preventing lung damage, I'm gonna be doing this from now on, I think.
 
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A useful GUIDE I made

I would like to add some useful info that I have discovered while using this method for over 6 months. Generally this method works wonderfully! It always prevents powder from going into the throat and/or lungs, which is a HUGE DEAL health-wise, not to mention efficiency.

I have encountered 2 problems

1) If I blow too hard, the powder will shoot up into my sinus, and this is painful. It burns like fuck, ESPECIALLY when it goes up behind the EYE!!

2) Sometimes the powder will fly back out of the nostril. This can be avoided by creating a seal over remaining 'cavities' after the straw-end is in the nostril. I do this by using my thumb to plug up next to the straw.

Getting powder into the straw is tricky I made a thorough guide for the method I have developed...


1) Crush up pill into fine powder.
2) Fold a small piece of paper in half (or fold 3 times in alternating directions to get a v-shape that 'dips' below the rest of the paper).
3) Scrape/scoop the powder into the crease of your folded paper (this acts as a 'canal' the powder can slide through).
4) Place your straw into a hose-clamp or empty roll of electrical tape that has a diameter of roughly 1-inch, so that the hose clamp is laying flat on a
table, and both ends of the bendy-straw are pointing up at roughly a 45° angle like a war-cannon (the middle of the straw rests at the bottom).
5) Tilt the folded paper containing the powder down into one of the straw-ends so that the powder 'slides'/'dumps' into the straw-end (this means the
'point' at the end of the folded paper is lined up with the straw-end-opening so the powder doesn't 'miss' the straw).
6) Place one straw end in your mouth (I prefer the end the powder was dumped into), then the other end about half-way up your nostril.
7) You can 'plug' up any gap of nostril the straw does not cover with your finger, or can make the straw-end thicker by taping several layers of tape
around the circumference.
8) Blow lightly for about 3-5 seconds, trying to avoid the powder going up into your sinus cavity and behind the eye (fucking ouch!!).

E N J O Y

 
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You'd actually be surprised at how much of what you snort gets into your lungs. The company that did the real leg-work and science, tested all sorts of radio-labled powders of different sizes. They have a pretty convincing set of photo's that scared me off conventional snorting for good.

Basically, if its not a pure drug and there's water insoluble cut in it (PILLS!), you can't avoid getting at least some of it deep in your lungs. That coupled with the respiratory depression of opiates, and you're looking at a breeding ground for infection.

I wish I remembered what the other company was called (I found out about this about 5 years ago) so you could see the photos, but they're probably tits up by now; when your invention can be effectively replaced with a bendy straw, you're kinda up the creek.

Gotta love the "PowderWhirl chamber" and all the sophisticated labels on whats obviously just a cut up straw.

One added convenience of this method is that you can preload a straw and cover up the ends, like in the photo. Its a very inconspicuous way of dosing in public, since it fits in the palm of your hand and only makes a quiet whistling noise which people dont associate with snorting drugs (unlike a bullet).

I've used one of these in a car (not driving) with co-workers without anyone being the wiser.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This... I work in the medical field and have seen x-rays and other scans of people who dont think that some chemicals that arnt WS in your lungs can be all that bad. A lot of those people only have a single lung now because of infections that festered there and other issues. Regardless of how lightly you may breath in, its inevitable you are getting a larger portion than you think to bypass your nose and go straight down your windpipe to your lungs. This method seems like a really good idea, and a great harm reduction idea that most people didnt even realize there was any harm that needed reducing. Really glad I had a chance to read over this. Thanks for the post man.
 
Sorry to dig up an old post, but I had to make a comment. I came across this thread tonight after being told by the doc today that I had bronchitis. I've been snorting suboxone (im in treatment and yeah, its not the best thing to do when trying to get away from drugs, but I've been clean of other opiates since I started) at varying doses for 2 1/2 years.

I have no noticeable lung function issues, but for the past 3 or 4 months I would just cough and cough after each sniff session. A couple weeks ago it got bad, and I had a horribly dry cough. Took antibiotics and the like. Two days ago I wake up with upper back pain and chest pain, especially when I inhale, so I went into the doc. He ended up running and xray of my lungs, and he told/showed me that my lungs were healthy, but my bronchial tubes were inflamed, which is bronchitis. My guess is that I haven't done too bad of a number on my lungs from all the snorting, but that my bronchial tubes are inflamed from all the irritating dust.

Anyway, today made me swear off snorting, so I am really happy to find this thread. The directions and everything worked like a charm. I ended up breaking the "blows" up into three or four times. I had two flex-straws. The first try was mediocre, as I used a small amount, so I couldn't really tell. The second one was much better. When I blew the stuff up my nose lightly, it was crazy to see all the fine particles fly out the other nostril...particles that otherwise fly into my lungs and get lodged in there. My only complaint about the system is that the tubes got wet, so some of the powder was stuck in there. I plan on buying a box of cheap flex-straws so that I don't have to reuse them consecutively.

tl;dr I HIGHLY recommend this system to anyone who snorts stuff on a regular basis. You'll literally save yourself a lung in the process, not to mention money since this method keeps the powders in the sinuses.

If this thread isn't already stickied, DO for the sake of harm reduction!
 
had me a little confused, but definitely looking for alternative, i have noticed substance making it to the lung
 
Hate to dredge up this old thread again but you guys are putting alot of emphasis on powder in the lungs. I have yet to see anything about powder in the sinuses. I started snorting hydros first in 2001 and we all know this is alot of powder. I mean I would do hundreds of mgs a day this way. I then graduated to oxys. In 2004 I got alot of sinus headaches and went to the dr. I ended up having surgery to remove the hydro that had collected and hardened in my sinuses. Believe me I am not the only one, two people I know have also had this problem. I still toot oxys but now I am careful to clean my sinuses well after a day of getting high. Just something to think about people.
 
I just tried this and holy cow it works! Perfect for those that want to avoid powder getting into their lungs.

I rigged up a real McGyver contraption using a straw, earbud piece, and a small funnel that is used for cake decorating. I can post a pic later if anyone is interested, as it was hard for me to visualize how to do this just from reading through the posts.
 
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