Moderating stimulant use

[d1430]

I need some tips for moderating stim use when there is a steady supply.

RCs can be decent for studying, and I'd like to keep it strictly for school use.

I had the same idea with PV about two years ago, but I ended up binging 3 days at home, doing no schoolwork, and coming in to class completely wiped out. I had no balance and kept falling over at work and class. I flushed everything after that weekend.

Adderall is nice for school work but it's not an option.

How do you convince yourself at the end of the night it's time to get to bed instead of burning through the night? The comedown from hell , the stomach churning, the depression, emptyness, etc... all make it hard

A prescription for Seroquel also helps tremendously. Just really effective for wrapping things up. It wont always knock you out and definitely wont make you feel better mentally, but it does kill stomach pains and churning. It'll get you well on the way to closing the night. Cant always bring yourself to take it though...

Letting a friend hold on to it is not an option right now.

Here's what I do

• eating before and during a "study-session" keeps you grounded, not as speedy, more in touch with your physical state. I think it definitely brings down the intensity of the entire session, but it makes you much more susceptible to nausea... which helps not redose as much. Ensure supplement drinks are really nice since you can easily sip them during your concentration session without having to chew bulky food and upset your stomach.
• Eating a nice meal at the end of the session brings you closer to baseline (assuming you can eat) too. It kills off a big chunk of leftover energy, can make you a bit nauseous though.
• I think most people know alcohol (low proof, slowly, to keep the stomach from upsetting), and benzos too, are great for comedowns, if you can bring yourself to wrap up the night ofc.

Anyone have tips to stay on track?

 

[Shameful]

-Making sure to leave the house with only a certain amount of the extra doses of my prescription amphetamine that I want to take throughout the day, leaving the rest of my script at home in the bottle. And then making sure to have an active enough day so that I'm tired when I get home and more capable of seeing how taking more would be an error in judgement.

-Seroquel. 100 mg is enough to put me out, no matter how much speed I'm on. Have some and keep it right in front of you so during that tiny moment of consideration that occurs right before you decide pop another one, you can grab that and pop it instead. I used to be scripted it for the insomnia I have anyway, but I quit taking it 'cause of the sluggish, retarded, a-motivated and irritable feeling it would leave me with for the first 3 hours of the day. But I'm starting to feel like that's not all that bad of a price to pay, considering my excessiveness as of late, and I'm thinking of having the doctor I'm seeing these days put me back on it.

 

[daytryptr]

Whenever i get issues controlling my stimulant use, i just take a bike ride out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere in the woods and leave them in a hole. Having X amount on hand, without resorting to trekking out in the woods in the middle of the night is a damn good deterrent i find. You realize how ridiculous that idea is just thinking about it, or have a long hard ride to think about how insane it is to go to that much effort just to get a little more tweaked out.

 

[d1430]

I think I need to go out more often. I have everything I need to study at home and really am not a social person so I dont but it might be a good idea to.

would it be better to do cardio after your first morning dose? or would it kill energy for the rest of the day? im not very inclined later on in the day, stim or not

Whenever i get issues controlling my stimulant use, i just take a bike ride out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere in the woods and leave them in a hole. Having X amount on hand, without resorting to trekking out in the woods in the middle of the night is a damn good deterrent i find. You realize how ridiculous that idea is just thinking about it, or have a long hard ride to think about how insane it is to go to that much effort just to get a little more tweaked out.

I like this... do you throw it out in the woods or stash it?

 

[daytryptr]

I think I need to go out more often. I have everything I need to study at home and really am not a social person so I dont but it might be a good idea to.

would it be better to do cardio after your first morning dose? or would it kill energy for the rest of the day? im not very inclined later on in the day, stim or not



I like this... do you throw it out in the woods or stash it?

Stashed, usually in a sealed amber vial with a desiccant just for good measure. Or something like an otterbox/waterproof case if you need more room. Just make sure whatever you use is waterproof.

Usually i just find a stump, and cover the stash with a piece of bark that peeled off of it. You could bury it, but out in the middle of nowhere no-ones going to find it and its less work just covering it w/ something. Throwing it seems like you wouldn't be able to find it when you do go to retrieve it. Just remember where you put it lol, if i ever worry about forgetting i just tag/record the gps coordinates.

 

[$linky]

I use dexedrine for my studies, and I have never once fiended. I usually decide its time to sleep by the clock, knowing that without sleep I won't be smart enough to learn the next day... stims or no stims. Then again I only take 10mg-30mg orally, which probably isn't nearly euphoric enough to become hooked on.

 

[nex]

my tricks:
-never use so many stimulants that normal day/night and eating rythm is altered
-never use so many that you need alcohol or other drugs to come down - alcohol is a killer for good sleep
-if you got powder (hopefully pure) measure it with a decent scale, put it in water and calculate how many drops contain how many mgs
-take breaks eg weekends
-follow the guide about stimulant tolerance&side effects: magnesium etc
-too many stimulants kill my effectiveness
-learning all nightwithout sleeping before a test is sth i would never do - you need sleep. for me it doesnt work
-doing high doses for long times doesnt work out, try to find a dose which gives you concentration without a massive increase in tolerance -> if you have to, increase your dose slowly
-be careful: when i should learn and take dex i could read bl for ages ....

before you enter a longer period of exams you can do a test run: take your drug for one or more weeks and see if it really helps you, how you react, what problems could appear and how you counteract them
test how fast your tolerance builds up, you dont want to take too much or less on an important exam

did you really use reaseach chems for studying? do you really know sth about the long term risks?

 

[olab7]

^ Probably the best things to do right there though they can be hard to do if you're fiending.

For me, when I first started to abuse amphetamines, It was easy to stay incontrol for like the first 7 or 8 months. I found the longer I abused the harder it was to moderate myself. I think it has to do with just being mentally strong enough to say "no". At the end of my abuse right before I finally quit, I was no loger strong enough to say no. I kept telling myself I could get back in control but I couldn't. So I finally just gave it up...But relapsed after 5 months of quiting, lol.

I still found it hard to be in control so I started leaving it at my dad's place which worked pretty well. I did though have a few instances where I had more with me but said no at the end of the day and didn't binge, so I did gain some ability to moderate again. I think if your starting to find it hard to moderate there's not a whole lot you can do except put it somewhere that's hard to get to or throw the reamining stash away. Even leaving it at my dads there were a couple instances where I went to quite great lengths to get to my dads just to get more. I still kept it down to using two or three days a week which I was okay with. You may also just need to take a long break like I did.

Good luck with everything and remember: If you can't get back to moderating, give it up completely. Chances are you'll never be able to moderate yourself again and just need to accept that. Stay healthy

 

[Achten]

I'm not that into stimulants but I can't think of that being a good idea. The amphetamines are already putting a strain on your body/heart, the cardio is only gonna make it worse, I think.

I had a few months honeymoon with coke and speed however, and FOOD, and especially fruits and nuts, is definetly the way to ground your body more.
Also, not redosing after X o'clock, if you know you want to sleep by Y o'clock.

 

[blight12]

For me it made it, dare I say, easy to manage stim and prob any other drug use with two conditions:

1. Only use recreationally, a functional use is game over imo, opens the door to using more then weekends and seriously, discovering a seemingly useful situation for rec drugs in normal life seems like disaster, prob the route to many life changing long term addictions. Seems you fail here though so you are screwed lol, j/k.
2. Never get to the point of daily use, weekend or twice weekly max. Point 1 above makes this easy.

Of course easier said then done, i also dont have any situations that temp daily use, like spare time, depression etc. so this does help.
Plus truly valuing your job or week time enough not to put it at risk, really helps with this

So in this respect i consider prescribed amps and other rec friendly drugs like benzos a very dangerous start. This has worked really well and avoids dangerous situations like innappropriate cravings etc which i know for a fact that i am weak at resisting.

 

[KMK]

Haha that's clever dude

 

[dragonslayer428]

It was given to me for ADD, but my psychiatrist says that it is also sometimes used as an anti-depressant. It helps lift my mood and be myself. Unfortunately, I had a bad reaction to it because I also take Paxil, which is a no no mixture. I am in the process of switching to zoloft anyway. I suffer from G.A.D., OCD (Irrational obsessive thoughts, such as hypochondria) panic disorder and social anxiety disorder. I am currently taking paxil, lyrica (off label for anxiety) clonazepam, xanax (as needed) Trazodone, and abilify. But once I get on the zoloft for good, I'm weaning off the lyrica and adding back the adderall (although I still take it, but only have 4 left for the next 2 weeks) It turns out Paxil doesn't allow the adderall to drain properly from your receptors etc. So, at one point, I hadn't even taken any adderall but felt all speedy and anxious. Needless to say, I needed to take a lot of xanax and clonazepam. I stopped taking it for a few days and then felt fine, then started again. I know, I'm stupid, but it just seems to be a drug that benefits me very much.

My way of moderation is when my script runs out....lol

 

[PlurPsyed]

deal with enough shitty crashes and you start to think twice. At least in my experience