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Mixed feelings about kratom

chippermonk said:
I bet 😂
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But perfect to take high doses at work without having an opaque a bottle of sludge water or taking it in a bathroom stall and risk it getting in between your teeth. Just replace the water part with kratom water.

I dont know if they have kratom in syria but my coworker once looked funny at me when they were still hot and smelly. Might have been the dexamp tho
 
Capsules are all right but I remember eating about 10 of them at once on a night out,when I went back to bar I burped and kratom dust flew out my mouth lol.taste was disgusting
 
lost weekend said:
Capsules are all right but I remember eating about 10 of them at once on a night out,when I went back to bar I burped and kratom dust flew out my mouth lol.taste was disgusting
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Yeah, I've gotten dry kratom in my windpipe from washing it down and had to cough it
Pretty horrible
. I've actually never done capsules as I don't have a capsule filler, but figured they'd be easier. I've always just mixed it in lemony water and chugged it. It's ok as long as I'm not doing more than 1.5 teaspoons at a time. But maybe I'll try some of these other techniques. Tea sounds interesting
 
chippermonk said:
Yeah, I've gotten dry kratom in my windpipe from washing it down and had to cough it
Pretty horrible
. I've actually never done capsules as I don't have a capsule filler, but figured they'd be easier. I've always just mixed it in lemony water and chugged it. It's ok as long as I'm not doing more than 1.5 teaspoons at a time. But maybe I'll try some of these other techniques. Tea sounds interesting
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Toss and wash is best method, have a teaspoon of yoghurt in your hand and instantly put it in your mouth after downing said mixture ,it takes away taste of kratom .
 
Fresh kratom leaves or ga Thom leaves are not unpleasant to eat .you get an instant buzz just from 1 leaf .
 
Toss and wash. Put it under your tongue and immediately lower your tongue on it and close your mouth as you get your water. By the time you drink the water, it will be moist enough to not blow around.
 
It can definitely be addictive, and have physical withdrawal symptoms. Certainly nowhere near to the extent of 7OH and similar products, but I can say as someone who was taking upwards of 30gpd for much of the last 5+ years, it is addictive. The fact that I've been on some opioid or another for most of the time since I was a teenager probably makes me more prone to it.

Even tapering down to 15 grams was extremely difficult for me. I'm now down to one dose of 5gpd and I can probably start taking regular breaks soon. I think most people will find it easier than traditional opioids, but don't underestimate it if you are a heavy user. I experienced most of the typical opioid withdrawal symptoms to varying degrees, with some symptoms that felt a bit like SSRI withdrawal.

I've taken enough of it for long enough that it has started to effect my health. If it were simple for me to quit CT, I would. I can barely look in the mirror because my skin is gross. Its quite possibly making my vision worse, and while my organs are mostly fine, being constantly dehydrated from heavy use during that 30gpd period did put a lot of stress on my body. Its basically impossible to properly hydrate when you're taking that much throughout the day.

That being said, its absolutely possible to use it either recreationally or medically without developing a serious addiction. I ended up like this for my own reasons, but I'm sure I'm not the only one with those kinds of reasons.
"Feel free" products are low dose and overpriced so you're rather unlikely to get addicted to those, at least not to the extent of anything other than feeling bad for a day.

I expect to get yelled at for fearmongering but that's absolutely not my intention here. I think most substances should be legal or at least legal-ish, and kratom is one of the safest ones out there. However in the spirit of harm reduction it IS worth pointing out that some people do struggle with this and it can get quite bad.
 
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17 years .only a couple of weeks or so without which was hell .I know what you mean about skin ,my face does have a darkish tone to it but not really noticeable as I have a beard .I wouldnt worry about it to much ,I only take 2 teaspoons in morning and same at night toss and wash fuck knows what the grams are but it's fairly low.get yourself down to that dose ,you shouldn't need anymore than that .if I keep doing kratom all day I just feel naucis
 
BadBoy377 said:
Diet Coke good for washing it down. Kicks in faster too.
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Tried fizzy juice once ,the powder mixed in with it in my mouth, disgusting isn't a strong enough word lol.i obviously got the timing wrong .in all the years I've never wasted a mouthful of kratom, I've gagged and thought I was going to spew but never wasted it .it's to precious
 
Yeh I'll try it tomorrow morning and let you know.we only have full fat coke ,would it make a difference
 
Erm I don't know tbh. I prefer diet. It's just acid and flavouring. I think it's the acid that counts.

Given your past experience Id maybe suggest toss and wash with water then chase with coke.

Or make a mini tea. Half cup hot water. We stir down it. Chase with coke. Rinse out dregs.

I used to drink a mix of diet coke and 15x extract powder out a wee cup on the train and keep adding juice to cup till all powder gone. Maybe a gram at a time. Fucked within half an hour.

YMWV
 
That's the thing about kratom tho. No matter what you do to injest it, you have to choke it down.
Whereas I find the taste of coca to actually have decent flavor.
 
Hi everybody, I´m from Austria. I was dependent on Methadon and Polamidon (Levomethadon) for about 20 years. I got down from 90 mg Methadon
to 2,5 mg Polamidon. This was the point where i stopped, because I never liked going to Drugstore everyday. I wanted to be "free". Then I got a pain docter (fucking great guy) to prescribe me 4 x 120 mg Dihydrocodeine (Codidol retard) for polyneuropathy. % years ago i dicovered kratom as an alternative to help with
the pain.
Now I take 500mg kratom extract 90% mitragynine along with red bali powder 3 times a day. I can switch them when I want, but it takes about 2 days
to feel "normal" with your dose.
 
Ok. So I have taken the caps, extract and powder. Only time I 'feel' anything is with the powder at about 10grams, just mix it with hot water so it dissolves, then slam it down like a big ass shot. Is that too much for a beginner? I don't get nauseous, or dizzy. Ill have a brief, may hour long kind of warm/good feeling. Then it just fades. Any tips? My main goal is to cut down on drinking.
 
I was taking kratom to taper off beer. It worked for a week. However it left me constipated and feeling dopey and dumb.
 
I have since stopped using Kratom. I used it almost daily for about 3 weeks, didn’t really like the effects over time. Tastes horrible, gives energy but also anxiety, have trouble with focusing my eyes and obviously nausea.

Going to take a pass on this one from now on
 
I took Kratom years ago to get thru oxy. Wd's. I got leaf and made my own capsules. I don't remember how much I took. Maybe 5g a day. It served its purpose but when I stopped the Kratom I almost felt as shitty as tge oxygen. I got thru it but never touched it again. I eventually got strung out on hard-core opiates(heroine, fentanyl) and I currently take Suboxone. Im still tech a slave to opiates withdrawal but the Subs are helping so much. So end of day I believe Kratom has a place and should be regulated, even dispensed in clinic setting to help people get off hard opiates. If your taking it for the buzz, we'll thats different abd if you get sick or addicted don't be surprised.
 
Posing a question that I have not found an answer to yet, mainly for shits and giggles. Can you smoke or snort Kratom? It can’t be any worse than snorting mdma right?
 
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