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Microdots

yaay i had 3/4 of these a couple of weeks ago. yaaaay! my first proper acid experience

and ive never laughed so hard in my life.

then it got to the point where i was incredibly confused, but having fun at the same time...confused fun confused fun confused fun.....
 
Thanks muchly for that, Cowboy Mac. It was the microgram dosage size that had me worried - seems to me that there's a fine line between fun night and freakout. Is there any way of managing an effective dose with liquid better? To be frank, I'm a little concerned one might end up tripping for an awfully long time if the dose was wrong.
 
^^^ the best bet would be to dilute it further (much the same as GHB).. therefore instead of 1 drop per dose, it may be 10 drops (depending on how much it is diluted). this way, 1 drop tooo many is only 10% more, rather than 100%

Maxi
 
Killarava when you had the dot did you crunch what I am to believe is a charcol protective coating that could explain a 4 hour kick in.
 
Yeah i sucked on it for ages, then realised it wasn't getting me anywhere, so i crunched the little sucker. I was feeling it within the 2-3 hr mark but it took 4 hrs before I realised that the acid was any good. Before that I was cursing the bastard that sold it to me, even posted on this thread saing they are gay, but had to erase it once it kicked properly :D
 
A friend of mine had a dot the other night and felt it was a different trip than he had experienced in the past. He's not sure if its ALD-52 as Microdotted suggested, however it does seem consistent with this line taken from the Lycaeum.
The table suggested that ALD might actually have advantages over LSD, reducing any side effects but achieving a stronger trip. Measurements of brain waves while people were taking the two drugs showed that while LSD produced brain waves associated with intense concentration and anxiety, ALD produced brain waves showing a more relaxed mental state.
He said the trip was unusually relaxing, with almost a sedated feeling, and little visual experience. Within 20 minutes an increase in perception, including touch and smell was noticed, and an increase in relaxation. Two hours into the trip another dot was taken due to the lack of visuals/strength and this improved the visual/mental experience with the feeling of relaxation/sedation continued. No other drugs were in the bloodstream to affect the experience, however further investigations need to be made and acknowledgement is made to factors including set and setting. He said the dots were not as strong as some had made out, and as has been previously suggested, some will prefer multiple doses.
 
^Yeah I was thinking about maybe having 1.5/2 next time I'm at an outdoor party.

Though it is highly unlikely that there are any chemists making ALD-52, it is kinda pointless because the process involves more steps than making LSD. A couple of chemists who got caught in the seventies said in court that their product was ALD-52 and not LSD as defence, that is where the whole ALD-52 myth started.

You can find the source I got it from buried somewhere in these 18 pages http://www.shroomery.org/forums/sho...92&page=4&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1 Well worth the read though.
 
From The Medicinal Chemistry of Phenethylamine Psychedelics, by Dr David E Nicoles, published by The Heffter Review of psychedelic Research, Vol 1 1998, section 5.

What’s next?

The missing piece(s) of the puzzle are now the links between these biochemical events, and the parts of the brain that must be involved in changing consciousness. It will probably be a long time before this connection can be made. In the meantime, however, there are a number of scientifically valid approaches that will give useful information.

Recently, for example, we have “stumbled” upon a simple phenethylamine molecule that has affinity for the 5-HT2A receptor nearly 100-fold higher than any other compound discovered to date, including LSD itself! There is no particular reason to search for more potent compounds, but often such molecules prove to be quite useful as research tools. For example, when a molecule has very high affinity for a receptor, it is often possible to introduce radioactive atoms into the molecule that allow one to visualize sites where the molecule binds in the brain.

This has already been done with molecules such as DOB, DOI, and LSD. However, a molecule with even higher affinity can be used at lower concentrations and dosages to detect and visualize receptors. This new molecule, with exceedingly high affinity for the 5-HT2 class of receptors will no doubt be useful to label and visualize these receptors in the brain. Indeed, we have already begun discussions with a firm that supplies radioactive molecules to prepare radioactive forms of this molecule for evaluation. Literature reports now also suggest that a tentative 3 dimensional structure for the family of Gprotein coupled receptors may not be far off. This is the receptor family to which nearly all of the serotonin receptors belong. Perhaps within the next year or two a good structure may become available. With that event, we would begin computer modeling studies to dock our molecules into this receptor structure in attempts to gain an appreciation of which structural features of the molecule are necessary for binding and activation of the receptor. If this can be accomplished, we should also be able to design new molecules to test hypotheses about which molecular features are necessary for receptor binding.

That would be a very exciting development because it would be the first time that it might become possible to design a molecule, de novo, to fit a particular receptor. Clearly, if we can retain our research funding, the most exciting developments in the medicinal chemistry of psychedelic agents are yet to come.

The whole article is excellent if anyone wants it (6 page pdf) I can't remember where it was sourced so PM me if you want a copy.

Somewhere on this board mention is made of another publication by Nicoles describing other stereoselective variations to the LSD molecule. UTSE
 
fuck.. i was about to post how shit these dots are.. they have a looooooong come-on.. hours even... shit.. thought i'd be right in time for work
oh well...

mr boss - you and the unicorn wanted to see me in ur office?
 
Just wondering, anyone had any bad luck with buying a microdot? As in very low potency or totally bunk yet? It seems to be common practise in the more country parts of Aus with tabs.
 
ok... 9 hours later... my first real experience with acid

i dont know, maybe they dont affect me as much as other people. i had a microdot at about noon... at about 3pm i was feeling lighter, kinda disassociative, almost scattered. i had no 'intense psychadelic hallucinations' like described on here and like my friends who tried the same ones felt.

am i expecting too much? or is it just that some drugs dont work for some people?

i mean its 9:30 pm now.. i just feel a little scattered and light headed.. more lightly stoned than anything...
 
^^I tried my first one a couple of days ago. We stayed inside for about 2.5-3 hours wondering when it would come on until we realised it was up to us.

We went for a walk around the suburbs, then down a little bush walk. I found great appreciation for the simple things around me (nature + friends) and had some interesting convo's with my friends who were also first time users.

If you are just sitting in your room doing nothing you aren't going anywhere unless you have a high dose.

I do agree though, I thought 1 microdot even on my first time was rather weak, I could have taken 2 for my first time and handled it fine. Remember setting and your mind set will play a major part in any trip or psychedelic adventure.

I also smoked some cones when I thought it was wearing off, wasn't a normal stoned feeling was rather enjoyable, I recommend it if you think you can handle it. 1 person we were with got a bit freaked out after smoking only 1 cone, became a little paranoid etc. but you should know if you are the sort of person that can handle it or not.
 
Regarding the general perception that the current batch of microdots (flooding Melbourne and surrounds) aren't terribly strong, I'd have to agree. I've had blotters stronger than this lot, though that was several years ago. When I finally got around to sampling them I was somewhat underwhelmed, remembering the last microdot experience, acting like the guy in Infected Mushroom's None of This Is Real. While acid should always be treated with respect, I don't have any hesitation in recommending them to beginners lately.

Having said that... they're very reliable, plentiful, and somewhat cheap. You can always eat more. Given how hard acid has been to track down until recently, I give them two thumbs up :)

(They have also rekindled my love for nitrous, which I was worrying had gone forever ;))
 
Sounds like microdots are a bit long in the tooth, the disparity between the reports on page 1 of this thread and page 8 indicate that there has been a general degradation in microdot strength in the last couple months... :( ... I guess they don't last long enough to save for a rainy day.

BigTrancer :)
 
^^
well i may be able to report on that in the next week or so.

me and some other friends....who have never had acid b4 r having a little party next week with the same batch of microdots that i first tried....so if there is any degradation, u shall soon hear.

and i guess it all depends on how ppl have been storing them too. the best place is in the freezer.


- edit cos i was told off by my BF
 
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syntech said:
ours r in the freezer so we shall see how we go.


errmm...unless you're going to eat them straight out of the freezer...it's probably not hte best place for storing microdots.


also i've heard reports of two types of dots going around, the more recent (and now more plentiful methinks) batch have a slight red tinge to the carbon (i know the crystal inside is red, but this is actually a red tinge on the charcoal), and while not overly weak, i haven't heard the best things about them...

having said that i haven't really had acid for 12 months so i'll shut the fuck up and hopefully someone who have experienced them can offer some info...
 
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