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Methylone Megathread II: vivid sexual fantasising or marmite

ive read through the big thread and on the issue and people seem to think by doing 2 bigger amounts will get best results.. were as small amounts you dont feel much and after a few times no point re-dosing.... i suppose everyones different. might do the smaller amount 1st as ill be in a club
 
300mg might get you seriously off. Might be fun, but when I took that much on my 2nd go I decided that I was so ridiculously happy that I didn't need people, clubs music or company....I'd just travelled 13 miles to Belfast on a train & I promptly turned around and went home again, just like that.
 
I'd agree 300mg is a lot for the first time....I did a tester of about 50mg first just to check for tolerance then upped it to about 200. I think a 300 first hit would have made me very wobbly! Certainly the come up will be strong at that dose...take it easy :)
 
Rayvon said:
ive read through the big thread and on the issue and people seem to think by doing 2 bigger amounts will get best results.. were as small amounts you dont feel much and after a few times no point re-dosing.... i suppose everyones different. might do the smaller amount 1st as ill be in a club
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Yeah i tried a really low treshold dose once which i didnt notice much from after which i tried a normal dose wich didnt work at all lol. You really need to get the dosing right from the start with methylone.
 
My such synchronicity. I just typed out a reply to virtually the same question so will shamelessly repost despite not being Medieval :)

any major dude said:
is this more of a straight stimulant at lower doses, say 30-60mgs? or is this too low for much of anything at all to be felt?
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30-60mg of M1? I honestly think you'd feel an espresso more than that. The dose range I've seen most is around 150-250mg. Personally I find it's pure fiend and tweak at at almost any dose - almost like bad coke but with less ego-swagger, more empathy and at least as much fiending. Drove me fuckin' nuts and the comedown was so brutal it just wasn't worth attempting lower-range doses for me.

I initially wrote it off as kinda like meph only less enjoyable (and I'm no meph fan) and all the feelings of having poisoned yourself horribly that meph should have but often doesn't. At the 200-250mg range I found the fiendishness dropped considerably, much more empathetic and the comedown was nothing like as bad even though using the same amount.

For me lower doses just leave me hanging in a kinda weird, wired OCD place and I just have to chase the high that will never happen to try to ward off the horrid fiending. Which clearly won't work :\

Strange stuff and I would strongly recommend against snorting it - seems a lot weaker and a lot more cracked out and fiending no matter what the dose. Oral or rectal (if you find the elusive sweet spot) was definitely the best option for me. For straight stims there are far better options, in my opinion.
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Yeah its useless in low doses, unlike MDMA or MDAI which have some potential in treshold doses.
 
Well, I've not tried any methylone yet, but will be ordering some when I get my student loan through next week 8)

Anyway, That head pressure sounds familliar. I often get that with huge, immediate dopamine releases (NE probably contributes too). I worked this out recently as i've been trialling Selegiline for possible nootropic and motivational (I'm generally a very lethargic person and often don't want to do anything) effect and decided to try supplementing with PEA at different doses. I noticed that with a large dose of PEA (>300mg) I get a lot of pressure in my head. This also happens If I dose smaller, yet multiplet times close together. This sometimes results in migrane! Though this could be due to many things (I know PEA does cause migrane in some people anyway). But I just thought I'd throw that out there as a possible warning, especially as methylone is highly doperminergic and less sertonergic than MDMA, so if you want to try and chase a more profound MDMA type experience by dosing higher, that's something you might want to be aware of.

Oh, and I'm new here but I've been reading for a while so I think i've picked up many of the do's and dont's :). Still, let me know if I make any mistakes!

Cheers, PoodlesXX
 
I'm interested in giving this stuff a shot too. I've taken MDMA a good 10 times. Does anyone know the relative harms of bk-MDMA in comparison to MDMA and Mephedrone? I take harm reduction quite seriously... mephedrone is something I've not tried and I'm staying away from, the fiendishness, heart, breathing and circulation problems seem far too severe. I've got a mate who goes on 4/5 day binges of it, no food and no sleep. Obviously most people have more self control than he does.

bk-MDMA seems really quite cheap, if it's better than the pipazerine street pills going around, why isn't this stuff being sold on the street as ecstasy?

Would 175mg be a good starting dose? (I've got good scales).

Thanks!
 
0x00 said:
bk-MDMA seems really quite cheap, if it's better than the pipazerine street pills going around, why isn't this stuff being sold on the street as ecstasy?
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piperazines are far far cheaper than methylone, methylone is not a million miles away from MDMA in costs, piperazines are rediculous cheap
 
A lot of people find the come down a real bitch, but in essence yes. All this is covered repeatedly in the previous archived methylone threads, do a bit of background reading if you want to know more.
 
ive done some reading in to the subject now and can gather people see snorting it as pointless. why is this tho ? is it just not as effective as bombing it or does it have no efect atall ?

ive got a party coming up soon where drug use woud be frownd apon. woud snorting small lines of methylone be suitable or do you still end up messy, or woud it do nothing atall
 
been head said:
ive done some reading in to the subject now and can gather people see snorting it as pointless. why is this tho ? is it just not as effective as bombing it or does it have no efect atall ?

ive got a party coming up soon where drug use woud be frownd apon. woud snorting small lines of methylone be suitable or do you still end up messy, or woud it do nothing atall
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Hard question to answer. Snorting Methylone just doesnt really seem to be very effective. In fact redosing just doesnt seem to get you where you want to be. More speedy than MDMA.
I have played about with (oral) dosages and some nights have been so disappointing where as some have been fantastic, the fantastic nights have always come from a largish single oral dose. Have just purchased accurate scales to try and work out what the exact magic dose is for me!
 
is it ok to mix m1 in with your drink ? probally an obvious question but some people reckon its dangerous to dilute drugs in yourt drink.

i had some m1 turn up today and have no rizla, snorting it seems to sting and be very uneffective
 
Don't snort it. It seemed to totally eradicate any traces of empathy for me. You can mix it in a drink. Orange/fruit juice works very well for absorption rates. Enjoy :)
 
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