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Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 3.0

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Successfully stopped a'swirling at 9:00pm, enjoying my high (fuck this meth is amazing) then ima drop 30mg val and try sleep
 
This guy, canberrarock, is giving me peace of mind in my own use. I thought id lost my marbles.

Interestingly, do ppl seem to get a sick pleasure out of going through heightened, manic episodes on a speed high?

I seem to get opposite reactions, where im naturally elevated sober and the speed gives me a content, euphoric stimulation.
 
Crankinit said:
That's what everyone says to justify using addictive drugs - "I have the strength of will to handle it." Sorry man, but it just doesn't work that way. Do you really think every single individual who's become a drug addict just lacked willpower?
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QFT. Addiction and dependency are a lot more complicated than "just try really hard not to become addicted".
 
canberracrack said:
how much does everyone load into their pipe at a time?
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I buy half a gram for each fortnightly session and i put the full 5 points in and take a toke when i desire a top up hit. Putting it all in the pipe at once gives you a good idea on how long it burns for overall to compare it with the times it takes to burn with other batches but the down side is it can be moreish and you might go through more but i guess not because if you were loading it into your pipe with individual doses you would just loaf more every time you wanted some.
 
Dont get me wrong i am addicted but i only use fortnightly. I mean meth heads are always going to use meth arent they so the key to been.a respected/respectful accepted in society user is to moderatley use the drug. Sure still be addicted but just try to use on a daily weekly basis. Besides the effect of meth and tollerancen come.into play the effects with daily weekly use become so dull.to.the point where its not even worth using the drug and it takes the fun out of it.
 
I kind of agree with this. Back in the day when I was hitting it. I could tell people's body language, how they speak, choice of words...2 years sober and I can still tell people when they are lying. But along that my anxiety is with me, not as much when I was using but its still there though.
 
weekly basis is good. i had that once. man, when i finnished one go, i could talk to any girl I had eyes on and it was always a good conversation.
 
im 22^^^

Work wasn't fun today. i slept last night but had to drop like 50mg val as id puffed away a bit. before work i toasted up a half point and just was thinking my manager was trying to see if i was high the whole time so i was avoiding eye contact and that made him more suss. i dunno might just be the usual trippan.

puffed a point since 6:30 and i just dunno how ill sleep I'm chewing thru these vals like cray. my next door neighbour has been outside smoking quite a lot and I've been paranoid but i popped a val now were sweet yo. damn this meth is sexy. i had a 3some with two hotties before and shit got fee-kay.
 
Crankinit said:
That's what everyone says to justify using addictive drugs - "I have the strength of will to handle it." Sorry man, but it just doesn't work that way. Do you really think every single individual who's become a drug addict just lacked willpower?
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I totally get what you are saying.
But I also believe that, if someone is both honest and strong, they can admit to themself when an addiction is beginning to build, and can stop when necessary.
My friends who have been addicted to drugs like meth simply enjoyed it too much to want to stop. They were young and single and had nothing to lose. I am middle-aged and have a family, so I have everything to lose, and I have an amazing amount of self-control. Not to mention the fact that my neighbor refuses to give me any before a week has passed, and I have literally no idea where else I might get some (and have never tried).
So, I appreciate your comments and your opinions, and I know that what you say is true.
I know that everyone thinks "I will be the exception", but I feel that I am the exception.
Naive? Maybe.
But I have the wisdom and experience of a quarter-century of drug use under my belt, and I am one of the most disciplined people I have ever met.
So, if I can't do it, nobody can.
Also, reading canberracrack's posts really make me very cautious - I would like to avoid psychosis at all costs.
So, I have continued to smoke meth (never IV) once a week, or so. No problem so far...
(Wish me luck!)
 
canberracrack said:
im 22^^^

Work wasn't fun today. i slept last night but had to drop like 50mg val as id puffed away a bit. before work i toasted up a half point and just was thinking my manager was trying to see if i was high the whole time so i was avoiding eye contact and that made him more suss. i dunno might just be the usual trippan.

puffed a point since 6:30 and i just dunno how ill sleep I'm chewing thru these vals like cray. my next door neighbour has been outside smoking quite a lot and I've been paranoid but i popped a val now were sweet yo. damn this meth is sexy. i had a 3some with two hotties before and shit got fee-kay.
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dont avoid eye contact. that is one way people will notice your change in behavior. Specially, to those who has experienced it. And
 
Anyone got any experience on anxiety as a long term effect from meth use.

Though Im sober now for 2 years, I still have my anxieties although not as horrifying as before.
 
tweak_chef said:
Anyone got any experience on anxiety as a long term effect from meth use.

Though Im sober now for 2 years, I still have my anxieties although not as horrifying as before.
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I always use meth on my own to rid any fears of becoming anxious in a social setting come day 2 or 3 of a bender. If im in a social setting ill spend the first day with them when the characteristics of the high are on the positive side if you stay with them for the next 2 or 3 days and they are on meth too that's when you all become seedy. That's why i smoke meth on my own, its cut's out all the bullshit of having to put up with in a social environment. Best thing to do is when you think your about to come down or you think you might be getting anxious, plan to leave a few hours before the anxiousness sets in so you leave on a good note. At home on your own there is no anxiety and no bullshit just pure bliss.
 
I never had anxiety issues when I was living on amphetamines - apart from an out of control habit and lifestyle my life was great when I was using. I'm sick these days and I'm in chronic pain addicted to opiates, coming down off meth or the like in my current state would destroy my nerves, doubtful I'd handle it well, probably check myself into hospital in the hope they would knock me out with something like midazolam. I cringe at the thought.

Have your sought medical treatment for anxiety? Getting off Meth was certainly a good choice imo.
 
I never had anxiety issues when I was living on amphetamines - apart from an out of control habit and lifestyle my life was great when I was using. I'm sick these days and I'm in chronic pain addicted to opiates, coming down off meth or the like in my current state would destroy my nerves, doubtful I'd handle it well, probably check myself into hospital in the hope they would knock me out with something like midazolam. I cringe at the thought.
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At 1st when I was taking it alone. My habit after taking it was chat or surf, on occasion Id drink with people but thats when it went south. we got greedy.

Have your sought medical treatment for anxiety? Getting off Meth was certainly a good choice imo.
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It didnt have much choice. When I come down, I feel shitty and it kinda affected my work. (My is kind of physical). I pissed off alot of people. Or I have this strange thoughts that people are onto me. Plus i moved to a different location for work where there is no meth here. Zero.

But to answer your question about medical help...No i have not. Where should I start?
 
...at home on your own there is no anxiety and no bullshit just pure bliss.
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I tried that, i have this strange thoughts processing in my head with the sounds I hear from background, or the city environment.

one time i thought the police were waiting outside my home. turns out my neighbors were just messing with my head. (they know about me using.)
 
Quite annoyed with myself.

I used ice last weekend and went through half a gram in day and a half. Had a horrendous comedown and not that great a latter part of the high (filled with obsessive compulsive looking on the carpet for shards) and slight auditory and visual halluncinations. I had to miss work on Monday due to not sleeping until Sunday night and megaly paranoid and anxious.

So what do I do this weekend but buy a quarter. It is gone now and whilst high I am fucking tired and pissed off with myself that I would go back to it. It really is insideous and despite often not enjoying much of the experience, I am still drawn to use meth and crave it after 4 days of not using. Using it tonight was alright - was at a house party - but still not worth the money or the slowly creeping anxiety and paranoia that it is coming now. Plus I burn through my valium script which I normally only use ocassionally when not high.

I have been using it once a week for a month, and prior to that hadn't touched it for 4 months.

I can feel myself developing a problem with it. I think about it a lot. I have dreams about it and I crave it.

This is despite not enjoying much of it except the first couple of hours of smoking the pipe. I also have a lot to lose if I get sucked in - a beautiful, kind and intelligent girlfriend, a reasonably well paid career, good health and the trappings of a young professional life (inner suburbs house, car, friends etc).

My girlfriend will back from overseas soon and is quite against ice (she is ok with other drugs) so I am hoping that once she returns I'll stop.

Any advice on getting away from it? Is it just a matter of willpower? I honestly wouldn't care that much if I never used it again (or best case scenario a few times a year).
 
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