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Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 2.0

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It hasnt taken long at all but I have a habit again :/
For the last 2 weeks or so ive used most days, sometimes sleeping sometimes not. I fucking went through 13 2mg klonazepams yesterday and not on purpose. Apparently I did some pretty bad shit that I dont remember any of and I really needed that rivotril :(

I woke up with 2 /12 so 5mg which in not dicksizing but thats fcuk all for me and very disappointed. So this morning I had a point of crystal IV which was nice and I plan to do the same in the morning. I did plan to stop using today but im so pissed off. I know im acting like a big baby but I got a bunch of things that need sorting out. I had lots of benzos stolen and I really, really needed them. Ive been on and off meth (smoking and Iv) for a few weeks and I starting to feel like a mess and definitely feeling more like its a need not a want. I smoke cannabis bongs, cigarettes and the occasional alcoholic drink or benzo but after the disrespect ive experienced over the last few days im going to have a big party sometime this week but just myself and maybe 2 or 3 friends and spend say 2 nights enjoying the beach in a cozy tent having big blasts every few hours with a radio and a camera to go exploring with.

Im getting sick of sitting around wasting my time on drugs snd my new boyfriend has said that I cant e using drugs especially meth & opiates if im going to be gojng out with him and those are things I can sacrifice.
 
Im 2wks clean but i think about it in some way every day. When will it stop? Still feel like i havnt had it that one last time. The mental obsession is fucked.
 
doofqueen said:
Im 2wks clean but i think about it in some way every day. When will it stop? Still feel like i havnt had it that one last time. The mental obsession is fucked.
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Hi doofqueen :-)

In my experience you will never feel like you have had that "one last shot"....honestly, I have had the greatest shot and rush of my life with every intention of that being the last one....but then, days later, justified planning to use again in a few weeks as not all factors in the environment around me were perfect (i.e. I prefer an empty house with noone around if I am going to have a session, and there were people home so I felt like I couldn't 100% relax).

IV meth is a very, very hard one to kick. I had my first shot 13 years ago at the age of 17 and am still using on and off....I have had periods of abstinence (6 months after gettting pancreatitis being the longest one probably) but it has always been with me.

I also had about 2 months off after moving from Adelaide to Melbourne last year, due to not knowing anyone here and not having any connections. Obviously it didn't take long to make connections haha.

But during that 2 months I thought about it every day at least once, often causing extreme anxiety and nausea.

From what I remember of your posts you have only started IVing relatively recently, if you genuinely want to stop I would encourage digging your heels in now and not feeding the beast anymore....as the more you light up those reward pathways, the harder it is to leave ice behind and the more insignificant everything that gets in the way of your next shot will seem.

Feel free to shoot (no pun) me any questions if you want, I might not have any answers but sometimes it's good to chat about it :-)
 
I still get really intense cravings for methamphetamine and it's 3 and a half years since I last used. I definitely agree the psychological attachment is fucked. Nothing compares with the intensity of meth cravings for me.
 
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I still get really intense cravings for methamphetamine and it's 3 and a half years since I last used. I definitely agree the psychological attachment is fucked. Nothing compares with the intensity of meth cravings for me.
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Yup. I've used Meth once in the last 3 or so years, about 12 months ago. I think about it quite often. I don't really crave being on meth and I definitely don't miss the days after (I used too.. I used to miss just being completely fucking out of it and scattered.. life was simpler, in a sense, when I was incoherent.) - but I just think about and crave the shot - for me, nothing compares to IV meth - the rush is unreal, particularly when you know you don't have a tolerance and you can just imagine what banging a point of good meth would feel like.. oh man.
 
Its going to be very interesting to see how things pans out. Ive just started going out with a beautiful man that is up to my standard for once (too many times ive dated scumbags due to low self-esteem, addiction etc...) and I am at the point where im falling in love but theres a problem. Im an IV meth addict, I dont use heroin anymore but I also used that IV and hd thinks I havent shot up in a year but it was yesterday. Now that I see that written I realize how bad that is.

He doesnt do drugs save pot rarely, drinking and smokes a little (less than me and a pack of 20's lasts me 4 days) but at the moment im using a lot. He knows I occasionally smoke meth and I smoke pot as well as that im on methadone but ive had a habit with the ice for a few weeks now using evrrh dsy. How im keeping it together is beyond me, im eating and sleeping so that'd be it but a few shots a day is really making my life more interesting and of course most of the time im feeling awesome but I have benzos and my tolerance has gone right down so I can get away with using and not becoming and emotional wreck. But having this man in the dark and him having absolutely no idea to the extent of the use thats going on. Its actually almost got me in tears because honesty is such an important part of any worthy relationship and im just being a hypocrite.
Addicts always say this but im going to have a shot today then quit for good! Its either keep this special man or keep using meth & fuck my entire life up.
 
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Majority of Aussie meth = sound of stomping feet at each level of distribution. Nothing like 20% methamphetamine and 80% MSM. Still there is insanely pure gear out and about if you know where to look. I avoid meth these days but I know there is really pure shit around and I know there is utter shit around.
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80% MSM: 20% GEAR. I recommend you stop purchasing drugs from where you are and out source (assuming you have actually paid for anything of that quality). Pretty much getting sold nothing. If your getting anything stomped on more then a 1:2 (standard cut ratio from a regular cook, assuming its washed down to remove IO impurities etc) then your getting ripped off. The quality of drugs is through the roof in Australia at the moment. I recommend saving your money for awhile and sourcing else where.
 
I'm thinking of getting some ice but have a question about mixing it with a certain medication. I'm taking tamsulosin (brand name - flomaxtra) for a medical condition that won't be effected by drug use. The medication has the side effect of lowering blood pressure (I don't suffer from problems with blood pressure at all - it is prescribed for something else). Will this likely have a poor interaction with meth? From my understanding it shouldn't as meth increases blood pressure and this med may lower it.

Can't find anything online and just wanted to check if anyone knows anything about it.

Also, what is the quality like around Melbourne at the moment? I can't say I have bought the stuff for over a year, so I really have no idea. I noticed the price is cheaper than what it used to be.
 
who knows but look into the fact that adrenegic stimulants play on both alpha and beta adrenegic receptors.....not sayings it's the same but beta blockers aren't good with stims - there may be something concerning alpha blockers?

check erowid
 
sorry for double post

just reading to crime commission report on clandestine labs in Australia, it appears we have a range of production methods detected

in order of popularity

hypo, red phos, nazi, p2p and other

not surprising as the first three produce high yeild d-meth but is interesting to see p2p, considering it produces low yeild dl-meth

are you guys seeing any ketone dl-meth out there? does it demand the same price? (I'm not asking for price here)

I've been out of the scene for years but it used to be shunned as second class crap
 
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mork said:
who knows but look into the fact that adrenegic stimulants play on both alpha and beta adrenegic receptors.....not sayings it's the same but beta blockers aren't good with stims - there may be something concerning alpha blockers?

check erowid
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I really can't find much on alpha blockers other than mostly on bluelight which is anecdotal. Most of it seems to say that it should be alright. There was a thread talking about specifically taking it with stimulants to reduce vasoconstriction etc. There are even a few links that say alpha blockers can used in amphetamine overdoses. Tamsulosin, from my limited knowledge, is a more specific alpha blocker meaning it supposed to have a limited effect on the rest of the sympathetic nervous system and rather exerts most of its action on the prostate (which is why I am taking it). I certainly haven't noticed any impact on blood pressure like light headedness or dizziness (then again I haven't had my blood pressure tested).

I guess I have two options:
1) start on a very small dose of meth - see what happens before trying a more recreational dose.
2) cease taking the medication a few days before taking the meth. I don't think that would cause a problem as I am taking it for prostate issues rather than any issue with blood pressure (which is all fine to my knowledge). With the exception of some bladder discomfort I can't see anything bad coming of ceasing the medication for a few days.
 
I take propranolol for anxiety due to high benzo tolerance I think you should be fine but again its never a good idea to mix medication with illicit drugs.

In my experience its largely hypo method nowadays due to a simple reaction and ease of crystallization. I have yet to see red phos other then in LARGE scale operations where commercial quantities of the chemical are involved.
 
I think you're on the money with having a washout period first up, as that sets the baseline and you can work from there. there is always an element of risk but mitigation is the key. first hand experience is always the best as everyone is different. while there is some good info out there, in turn there is utter crap. if I listened to this then I would have never experienced my best combo that I did for years without any negative effects.
 
nice one, 4-mar is up there with the best IMHO and easily identified by its effects, taste and smoking characteristics! rare as hens teeth around my neck of the woods tho....a trooper for the working environment that requires high level of cognitive function. must say that the mar I've seen never looked as shardy as that......yummy! thanks for sharing
 
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Sorry if this is a silly question but I was just wondering If someone were sold 4-MAR as meth. How would they know?

And generally, is it dearer when sold as 4-MAR?
 
ensta said:
Sorry if this is a silly question but I was just wondering If someone were sold 4-MAR as meth. How would they know?

And generally, is it dearer when sold as 4-MAR?
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Your average pipe fiend would probably put the difference down to the usual variations between batches, more likely that the drug geek regulars here on BL would probably know that something is up, especially if they bust out a testing kit.

The differences are honestly not that huge, it's a bit more clear headed, less of a rush from each toke (and apparently shooting, though I've never tried), smoother, less forceful and a bit less physical, the euphoria has a slightly different feel to it. Biggest difference is that it lasts for fucking ages and is even worse for insomnia (beyond the increased duration) than meth. I'd think most stimulant connoisseurs would enjoy it thoroughly, but keep a stash of heavy duty benzos (and I mean benzos, I tried an absurd dose of seroquel once to sleep well after my last pipe, all it did was make me feel zombified and even more fried) on hand if you want to chill out and even think about sleeping within 18 hours of your last dose.
 
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