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Stimulants meth on a weekly basis?

I seriously don't think things like 'You're fucked, lolz' are productive or even needed..

Yep, I agree with everyone as I've stated in my post and to Ozgrower himself that he's on a fucking slippery slope into meth addiction. The fact is, this kid (and yes, he's a fucking kid guys) is lost.. He's not getting the point of what we're all trying to say and that's a shame but it's HIS shame.. If you don't have anything positive to contribute then don't post, he doesn't need negativity or anyone saying stupid shit because it's not helpful..

I don't want to see this young (he's actually a REALLY nice guy btw) guy get fucked up more than he is. We've all been in his space before and we all must have passed it to get to our (whether current or former) state of addiction to this fucked up drug..

I really hope that it starts to sink in Ozgrower, for your sake, no one elses..

Peace out everyone..

Mav <3


(Mav is grumpy today, so sorry)
 
the thread is long and i didn't read most of it. just in case it wasn't mentioned, the main problem i see with this idea is that meth (whether the high lasts that long or not) can easily last like half a week. the side effects would get worse as the drug builds up in the body and as tolerance develops, making them last possibly half the week (half of each week with no sleep and the other unhealthy side effects of meth does not sound appealing)

not to mention the honeymoon feeling OP has atm for meth
 
mav3rick said:
I seriously don't think things like 'You're fucked, lolz' are productive or even needed..

Yep, I agree with everyone as I've stated in my post and to Ozgrower himself that he's on a fucking slippery slope into meth addiction. The fact is, this kid (and yes, he's a fucking kid guys) is lost.. He's not getting the point of what we're all trying to say and that's a shame but it's HIS shame.. If you don't have anything positive to contribute then don't post, he doesn't need negativity or anyone saying stupid shit because it's not helpful..

I don't want to see this young (he's actually a REALLY nice guy btw) guy get fucked up more than he is. We've all been in his space before and we all must have passed it to get to our (whether current or former) state of addiction to this fucked up drug..

I really hope that it starts to sink in Ozgrower, for your sake, no one elses..

Peace out everyone..

Mav <3


(Mav is grumpy today, so sorry)
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OP has such vast abundance of information and support that he needs to see what is going on and what is going to happen. There are countless threads about the dangers of addiction, and about meth, and meth addiction. There are countless stories about the souls meth has taken, yet he refuses to acknowledge them and inform himself.

Whether he is lost or just bored, meth isn't going to solve any problems, hell it's only going to make things worse. And I know it's easy for us to say all of this to him being on the outside, but it's easy because some, if not all of us have battled some form of addiction and are aware of the signs/symptoms.

I know, if I had the information on BL or just information on addiction and such, or just some first hand experience of seeing someon's life changed by addiction, I more then likely wouldn't have fucked my life into an opiate addiction. Not to say I was completely blind to it or whatever, but it may have had have me think twice about what I was doing.

In the end it's up to him to take the help or leave it, (you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink), but it seems his choice has already been made. I don't know if you know him personally, but if so, I would have a nice long chat with him, one on one, and lay it down. It's easy to brush of internet posts, because we are just words on a screen, but it's not so easy face to face when you can see the emotion an addiction brings to family/friends/etc.
 
fm1983 said:


OP has such vast abundance of information and support that he needs to see what is going on and what is going to happen. There are countless threads about the dangers of addiction, and about meth, and meth addiction. There are countless stories about the souls meth has taken, yet he refuses to acknowledge them and inform himself.

Whether he is lost or just bored, meth isn't going to solve any problems, hell it's only going to make things worse. And I know it's easy for us to say all of this to him being on the outside, but it's easy because some, if not all of us have battled some form of addiction and are aware of the signs/symptoms.

I know, if I had the information on BL or just information on addiction and such, or just some first hand experience of seeing someon's life changed by addiction, I more then likely wouldn't have fucked my life into an opiate addiction. Not to say I was completely blind to it or whatever, but it may have had have me think twice about what I was doing.

In the end it's up to him to take the help or leave it, (you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink), but it seems his choice has already been made. I don't know if you know him personally, but if so, I would have a nice long chat with him, one on one, and lay it down. It's easy to brush of internet posts, because we are just words on a screen, but it's not so easy face to face when you can see the emotion an addiction brings to family/friends/etc.
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True that. I agree with everything you've said!

Sorry I was grumpy and have had a bad morning so apologies to all..

I don't know him personally, if I did I would have smacked some sense into him! We have had a longgggg chat via msn and he sounds exactly like me when I was just starting out, I think that's probably why I kinda went a little OTT.. I just hope some of this sinks in with him, it's too late for me so maybe the fuckedupness of it all will sink in but doesn't seem to be so far..

Much love, (a less grumpy) Mav <3
 
fm1983 said:
Do you not see what is happening here OP? We all sure as hell do. I have to say you are already hooked, and just by the posts in this thread made by YOU, we can tell. You are justifying your usage like crazy. You can deny this shit all you want, but man you are digging a grave.

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But that's the nature of methamphetamine (or any other highly euphoric drug) usage. It profoundly affects the reward centers of the brain. The user, aware of the potential destructive effects yet still very much in love with the drug, will then go on to make a "once a week" or "once a month" etc. "regimen" in order not to give up something so subjectively beautiful. It's like literally being in love with someone--it causes you to make irrational justifications to make sure the object of desire stays intact because we are evolutionary inclined to cling to things that "feel good" and go to great lengths to get them (food, sex, etc.).

My point is--it's hard to put blame on the OP's rampant "justifications" because his reaction is just so damned normal and predictable.



But more to the point, I do much agree that you shouldn't use after the first/second hit. The only methamphetamine regimen that I could grudgingly recommend is perhaps once a year. Statistically speaking, you almost certainly won't have the temptation-resistance of a lifelong monk and will inevitably spiral down the ol' path of methamphetamine addiction with its too-familiar-to-the-point-of-apathy destructive effects that ensue.
 
My 2 cents:

I started smoking meth on a weekly basis...

Now, three years later, I'm struggling to overcome a chronic daily meth addition.
 
I feel compelled to add my "two cents" to this thread so here goes:I am a life long "drug person" who has tried just about everything in the 23 years since I smoked my first joint. Ten years later (or thirteen years ago) I tried methamphetamine! Since then, it has been my drug of choice. Three times I went headfirst into the "full blown" addicted lifestyle and three times I have emerged. I have seen both top high and rock bottom on the stuff, and it still has a hold on me. I can't see it ever letting go completely and I can't imagine my life without being able to get high on it at least sometimes. I absolutely love the high from the stuff! And to be completely honest; sex and orgasm have never been the same (when sober) since I got into meth.
For the last year and a half, I have successfully become a "part time" user of meth. Before then, I was using probably 22 to 24 days out of every month. Now, I do the opposite: I get high 6 or 8 days every month; usually two 3 or 4 day "benders" every 28 days. This assuages my cravings and I usually have fun. This is in large part due to the fact that I have a willing and able female who likes to "indulge" with me. But, truth be told, if I didn't have her; I'd still get high and masturbate, just for the orgasms.
The only way this is possible, however, is with extreme discipline. No matter how much I want to get more, or do more; once my allotted time is up, I shut it down. Even if I have lots of money, I still force myself to quit using. I usually try to stop a day (or 1/2 day) early and leave myself enough time to get a decent rest before I have to be at work, or take care of my kid. Its those two things that ultimately motivate me to stop: I have a job that I really like, and don't want to lose and I have a little boy who needs me to be there for him. I loved the full time lifestyle, but Fatherhood and the semblance a normal life are both far better than being "full blown" was.
Noteworthy, though, is the fact that unpleasant side effects, such as sore mouth, dry skin, and obsessive/compulsive behaviour; are much worse now than they were when I was "full blown". In fact, when I used daily, I hardly noticed any problems after a while. Now, "comedown day" can be very unpleasant indeed!! These yucky issues are just one more difficult hurdle I must jump, every time. Because, usually the best cure for these things is more meth.
To sum up what I'm really trying to say: YES! being a weekly (or bi-weekly) meth user is possible; but only with a great deal of strength and discipline. I posess this because a)I've been to the bottom on this shit and I didn't like it! and b)I have more important things to live for that don't intend to ruin.
I'm not trying to brag on myself, but I seriously doubt that a first time user who is so enamoured with the shit is going to posess that much strength and discipline...I speak from experience: I felt the same way when I first tried it!!!
 
sitting here at 4am totally wired reading your post thinking.. shit. i probably once thought i could just do it on weekends (i have a full time job too) but then one monday you need to be at work and you have not slept, so you have a bit more to get you to work, by 5pm your home feeling flat as and think.. just a bit more to get through the evening with the family and b4 u know it you aint sleepin monday night either! i smoke alot of the stuff and only tonight wrote i cant explain why i do it.. no lovely feelings for me like mdma gives so cant agree AT ALL with you there.. only very recently had some meth that gave me a hell of a rush and cant help but think am i really gonna spend a shit load of $$ to chase that again..?? dont make it a weekend thing mate (dunno what ya weekends are) but hell if you can make it a festival weekend / fave band in town thing you will be far better off. shit i smoked $100 worth and went off to the local footy the other weekend and on the way there i was asking myself.. do i REALLY feel any different if i had not had anything at all? Slippery slope my friend.. try to stay on ya feet ok
 
thanks a lot for all the advice guys it really means a lot to me.
Sitting here pretty high because i didnt have work today and said I was allowed coz its the weekend and yea i feel good, not really high just feel like myself without thinking bout problems and bad shit.
The tolerance sucks because already now i dont even get that high from 1 point anymore. It;s a weird high isnt it i mean it sorta makes you feel like you think you should feel normally sorta like being really sober with a good mind. Im just listening to some good hip hop enjoying life.
Meth is some serious shit which u wont really beleive until you try it and then its too late because you found out. I rekon if i am able to keep it to weekends id find it hard to have a weekend without it because i act so naturally around everyone without being shy and being sad a lot thinking noone really understands where im coming from.
I do know that this feeling is the sorta thing I get when I have good relationships with people because theres nothing more important than that, fuck money fuck work fuck all that shit all you need in life is some good people. Still waiting for that girl and I know itll happen sooner or later but until then meth will be around for a while. Its not that i do meth to get high its more doing it to have good times with people. Even at work the few times i did use it seemed like I could really open up and laugh and enjoy things. It does happen sober a lot too but I do miss out on people and conversations being so shy.
That feeling you get when people really understand and like you is something which will stick with you and make life twice as easy.
This was a lot of personal stuff for me that I wanted to share because I rekon only people that have been through some tough times in life really understand the important things and obviously meth users have been to hell and back.
One song which you should all listen too which might make you a bit sad is
Jay Z- This can't be life
Theres always that one song that i listen too over and over and that one felt really good.

Take care everyone
 
Glad your high and having fun man, something i noticed, when im doing speed (crystal) my drug usage overall increases (GHB, benzos, opiates, muscle relaxers, alcohol, ketamine, etc) because i can always justify my use (increases the high, decreases the crash, sex is better, etc). this isn't a warning or a "I feel guilty" post; just something i noticed that u might wanna look at.
 
F1n1shed said:
Your description of the meth high seems really weird and odd, like comparing it to cid and such. I have never done meth but could explain it better than you could just by reading other posts about it and knowing how stimulants work. How about next time you tweak you research the hell out of the drug since you will want to be doing something. And also any and every single thing I've read about meth has always said people had the biggest urge to just talk and chatter away, how ever yours was the complete opposite.
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No. I don't believe you should criticize his description especially since you have not even tried the substance. It definitely has trippy qualities. Also, feeling awkward and paranoid about youself can happen as well. He even stated, if he was conversing with people on the same "level" as he was, it would probably be a little more "normal" or "regular" to do so (if you can call drug induced conversation "normal"
 
Op you really gotta read this thread from start to finish when you are 100% sober.

I'm serious, read it through completely when you are sober. You have already broken all your rule you laid out, you are using more than you said you would and you are justifying its use because you are shy.

This will lead to a full blown habbit where you cannot function with out it.

This is a quote you should always remember. When you can quit, you don't want to, when you want to quit, you can't.

I really hope you can save yourself before you lose everything important in your life. We've all (the one warning you) been where you are now before, we all pushed the limits and then got in too deep then realised when it was too late. We are trying to save you the pain and agony you are about to put yourself through, the depression, the cravings, the shyness, the hopelessness, these feelings will swamp you and take over your life if you don't stop using meth. Once every 6 months is as often as you should use it max.

b4rd said:
Also, feeling awkward and paranoid about youself can happen as well. He even stated, if he was conversing with people on the same "level" as he was, it would probably be a little more "normal" or "regular" to do so (if you can call drug induced conversation "normal"
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The op stated he was on SSRI's due to depression and was naturally quite shy. People with these personality traits often get quite paranoid and anxious on drugs like meth which explains why he would always leave after 20 minutes at being at someone's place. I also have similar personality traits (often results in a VERY addictive personality) so I can see where he is coming from.
 
yea im alright thanks mate, ive been using like once a week some times twice but i cant get any more theres no way i get paid like shit from work and i can't afford more and so i guess thats were im at at the moment.
What i might try is just get some amphetamines because their cheaper and a little bit better for you i guess who knows
 
If by amphetamines you mean dexies etc then yes I would certainly give that a shot. They are much weaker but still able to give you a nice enough buzz to enjoy or give you energy to do something you otherwise wouldn't.

This is not to say they are not addictive as hell, but they are less addictive than meth due to the lower doses people generally use and as it sounds like you are not ready to give it up then the lesser of two evils is the way to go.
 
i'd go with dexedrine just because they last for four hours rather than all day. it'll let you get at least a medium quality sleep and you'll spend less time using up extra heart beats and starving yourself
 
na na im not talking bout the pharmacy stuff, im just gonna get some street amphetamines 'speed' we call it here in aus. Still gets you nice and high and is cheap compared to meth. Dont know what you guys call it over in the us
 
ozgrower90 said:
na na im not talking bout the pharmacy stuff, im just gonna get some street amphetamines 'speed' we call it here in aus. Still gets you nice and high and is cheap compared to meth. Dont know what you guys call it over in the us
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I am almost certain that what you are getting is just low purity methamphetamine as it is simpler and makes more sense from a production standpoint to make over amphetamine.
 
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