Meth and Trance

[thestudent14]

1990 Out of the blue come house and pills and it was something quite extraordinary. Pubs in the city would have DJ's playing till morning, no coppers, no dogs because nobody knew what this was. I remember doing lines off the bar and the bar staff being as off chops as us (Bentley Bar, cricketers arms), smoking joints in the beer garden all day long without a blink of an eye. It was an amazing time where you felt a part of something. Going to the Court House in Oxford street at 7am and smoking joints, blowing the smoke out of the windows and dancing. Very little violence, everyone was off chops

Im not knocking what we have now because some of the music today is brilliant!! Id say music has evolved and is great today, but you have no idea what it was like back then. Without being one of those "I was there" people. Im kinda proud to say I was part of the ecstasy generation.

Pills were better then

Sounds like magical times, I wish was old enough to experienced such an era. Respect.

 

[cassandragemini]

^ Yeah me too, it must have been amazing when the scene started, i would have loved being part of it. In my opinion that is when the electro dance scene was genuine and special and other than the 60's and 70's it was one of the coolest evolutions in music. Now the scene has been bastardised and it seems to lack any of that 'PLUR' quality these days, it seems to me to just be 'cool' now and doesn't have much if any of that original magic anymore. For the most part, or at least a big part, raves seem now just a place to get wasted and party mindlessly, it seems to be less about the music and the love and more about getting smashed and being cool. Also it's so commercialised now, there is a lot of money to be made by people and companies who couldn't care less about PLUR and just want to make a buck. I know I'm generalising and I'm sure most of the people on bl have a genuine love for the music and have good reasons for listening to it and going to these events and stick to more genuine ones but I think you have to admit that the music and the scene is just a distant vestige of what it once was and what it stood for. Dance music and PLUR isn't dead, it just has aids.

Also I find it interesting looking at the way the music has changed since it started, back then it seemed the music ran hand in hand with ecstasy and many of the artists wrote and played really upbeat music that seemed to complement ecstasy. Now we have trance, psy-trance, hardstyle, drum and bass, dub step and if the music still runs hand in hand with the drugs you can really see the way the drugs available now have influenced the scene. MDMA is nowhere near as common as it was - ice, psychedelics, coke, ghb and the shit people pass off as ecstasy are the prevalent party drugs and I think the music reflects this change. More often than not people are tripping or tweaking on stims at raves, not hugging and gurning and music like trance is perfect for this change and seems to have evolved with it, in this part of the world anyway. Its good that the music has evolved, there isn't much worse than stagnant music (punk seems to be pretty stagnant, hence the dying punk scene) but the fact that dance seems to rely so heavily on drugs for its appeal is a turn off for me, if you can't really enjoy and appreciate music without drugs then I think it's empty and void of any artistic and creative talent and therefore lacks that 'spark' that good, well written and genuinely creative music should have. This is all a big generalisation I know and it's also just my opinion and I may well be wrong about a lot of it but this is how I feel about it.

 

[laugh]

Going to the Court House in Oxford street at 7am and smoking joints, blowing the smoke out of the windows and dancing. Very little violence, everyone was off chops

haha i remember scoring coke at the court house hotel, good times. felt kinda weird though...

 

[thestudent14]

^ Yeah me too, it must have been amazing when the scene started, i would have loved being part of it. In my opinion that is when the electro dance scene was genuine and special and other than the 60's and 70's it was one of the coolest evolutions in music. Now the scene has been bastardised and it seems to lack any of that 'PLUR' quality these days, it seems to me to just be 'cool' now and doesn't have much if any of that original magic anymore. For the most part, or at least a big part, raves seem now just a place to get wasted and party mindlessly, it seems to be less about the music and the love and more about getting smashed and being cool. Also it's so commercialised now, there is a lot of money to be made by people and companies who couldn't care less about PLUR and just want to make a buck. I know I'm generalising and I'm sure most of the people on bl have a genuine love for the music and have good reasons for listening to it and going to these events and stick to more genuine ones but I think you have to admit that the music and the scene is just a distant vestige of what it once was and what it stood for. Dance music and PLUR isn't dead, it just has aids.

Also I find it interesting looking at the way the music has changed since it started, back then it seemed the music ran hand in hand with ecstasy and many of the artists wrote and played really upbeat music that seemed to complement ecstasy. Now we have trance, psy-trance, hardstyle, drum and bass, dub step and if the music still runs hand in hand with the drugs you can really see the way the drugs available now have influenced the scene. MDMA is nowhere near as common as it was - ice, psychedelics, coke, ghb and the shit people pass off as ecstasy are the prevalent party drugs and I think the music reflects this change. More often than not people are tripping or tweaking on stims at raves, not hugging and gurning and music like trance is perfect for this change and seems to have evolved with it, in this part of the world anyway. Its good that the music has evolved, there isn't much worse than stagnant music (punk seems to be pretty stagnant, hence the dying punk scene) but the fact that dance seems to rely so heavily on drugs for its appeal is a turn off for me, if you can't really enjoy and appreciate music without drugs then I think it's empty and void of any artistic and creative talent and therefore lacks that 'spark' that good, well written and genuinely creative music should have. This is all a big generalisation I know and it's also just my opinion and I may well be wrong about a lot of it but this is how I feel about it.

I agree with everything you said except this " but the fact that dance seems to rely so heavily on drugs for its appeal is a turn off for me". Whilst I initially liked taking drugs at festivals I have lots of friends who love dance music without drugs. I inlcude myself in this as far as clubbing is concerned. Whilst I'll always love punk and metal more, I've always had more fun drinking at dance clubs opposed to metal/punk clubs. I guess the crowd plays a big role in this, whilst you do get a lot of douchebag jocks a lot of the other people tend to be social and are out to have fun where at punk and metal clubs people are less keen to enjoy the club and tend to just be social amongst their own group (apart from in the smokers area's where everyone is normally pretty happy to socialise).

 

[Draven26]

For me I used to put on some trance music in my room anything from Above and Beyond to ATB, Tiesto and when I'd use Meth intravenously and get the rush along with the trance music it would feel like it was hitting me twice as hard. Trance music plus drugs definitely is sheer bliss. Obviously MDMA goes better with trance music.. go to a rave if you haven't all ready.. simply amazing!

 

[lovepsychadelics]

Speedcore: LMAO. The lamest of the lame EDM styles. Thought that shit died out in the mid 90's.

I wasn't really into the house/trance scene until the mid to late 90's. It still had the vibe of the earlier years poledriver and mister so fondly remember but it had started to become more noticed by LE. There were a lot of raves but also clubs springing up. Field of dreams? Freelove? Utopia, PHOD. Clubs like the icebox, gas, Sublime, tantra, Home. Fucked if I can remember much it was just party after party, pills, faces, lights and a foggy e-haze. I recall random shit like being so fucked of some pill and talking total cod shit to some random bird and I had NO idea what I was saying. Didn't matter she was just as fucked as I was. Dancing, music. Damn they were some good times and some good drugs.

The things I recall the clearest were the comedown parties were 30-40 random strangers would just arrive after a rave at some overly generous and loved up individuals flat/house whatever and just keep going. Meanwhile your feeling like crap your clothes are soaked but damn a hit of a spliff made it all seem ok. Followed up by a fat line of speed a pill or two and ready for another 12 hours. I often wonder WTF happened to all the crew I used to know. Time, life and TBH being a self centered prick means I lost contact with everyone. I really had to in the end the drugs and the partying was fucking up my life, work and my university studies.

 

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any jungle in guy?

 

[the_ketaman]

Ive always been a fan of trance over hardstyle and in my group meth/coke/E/acid are the main drugs in my circle and unless its a festival I only usually have meth instead of E like most others and as I said, trance is my genre. But the positive about that is that MDMA still works perfectly for me, unlike so many others I never burnt out on MDMA, in fact aside from psychs MDMA is the only drug I havent abused it to the point where its hardly as enjoyable as it was in the beginning.

But meth and trance go fine IMO, and the amount of gay meth users around the world would agree with me as trance is common and meth is very common in the gay clubs. MD doesn't really make me horny like meth does so yeh...