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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

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claire22 said:
hmm K for meth cravings, i'm just a bit wary of ketamine as I have never touched the stuff..a lot of my mates have but it never interested me, i've always been a stimulant girl thats for sure.
should i attempt it if my cravings are really horrible (which they ARE)
its all i can think about, literally think about it ALL THE TIME. its like it has possessed me to some extent. grrrrrrr. maybe i need an exorcism?
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I dunno it could be worth a shot if you're up to a couple hours of K-ing out. Just take it easy on a low dose I guess things have to be pretty bumpy for you atm trying to get clean of meth even without a disassociative trip. Like I said it's just something I was told by a mate, though I remember reading NMDA antagonists (K, DXM, a couple others) can be used to prevent meth tolerance somewhere so I guess there's some interaction going on there somewhere.

That also might be something you wanna consider leftwing if you can't get K could always try DXM if you're not above feeling a bit highschool and getting high on cough syrup lol.

If anyone knows a lot more about the topic feel free to correct me on any account.
 
with the suggestion of DXM, crankinit, do you mean in relation to dropping my tolerance or to curb cravings? i haven't experimented with it for a few years and probably don't intend to again. it was never my cup of tea.

i feel i have myself under enough ropes to get through this fine without the aid of anything but self dedication.

thanks for the suggestion
 
leftwing said:
with the suggestion of DXM, crankinit, do you mean in relation to dropping my tolerance or to curb cravings? i haven't experimented with it for a few years and probably don't intend to again. it was never my cup of tea.

i feel i have myself under enough ropes to get through this fine without the aid of anything but self dedication.

thanks for the suggestion
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I meant with the cravings, I don't thing the tolerance thing works retroactively, if it works at all, and the cravings thing is just a tenuous link, but hey DXM is cheap. I've never tried the stuff personally, so take it all with a massive grain of salt. Good to hear you're confident about tackling it head on though.
 
gd on ya leftwing - and now i know why ur called 'leftwing' ;)
the hospital wont give out needles here, we hav to go to various pharmacies or the city needle exchange
no one working at a needle exchange-type place shud b condescending - that woman sounds like shes in the wrong dept.
jammy, interesting u shud mention K as a solution to cravings
of course ketamines a dissociative rather than a true psychedelic but i found LSD to b very therapeutic in keeping me meth-free for a week.....more cos it made me look at wat i was doing to myself than actually taking the cravings away
my friends and i took a trip of potent LSD (back wen it was pure here :\) and we all realised we were fucking with our lives, and at the time we were living out in the beautiful country....and we needed to stop
unfortunately we were all too deep into it and we were suffering withdrawals so after a week we went back to the meth....but i think psychedelics can b very therapeutic regarding addiction
just about evry E pill we get here these days is full of meth and K (thats why i dont use E anymore) but not long ago i snorted many a line of a mix of meth, K, BZP and MDMA
sadly the K did not stop me scoring a point and jabbing it (then snorting more lines) but maybe it wud hav worked better on its own
claire, i hav a feeling u might find K a little frightening unless u stick to a very low dose seeming as u hav expressed before ur anxiety over drugs like weed
and certainly id stay away from LSD/acid
these r just my personal experiences
 
thanks, dw. haha yeah im not a radical leftwing in the sense of politics as some wanker tried to tell me on some thread in OD the other night, hahaha. it's not the first time either haha.

it sucks hearing about places, especially somewhere like NZ where they don't give out needles. i'd assumed they did because the majority of hospitals do here and NZ kind of follows suit with a lot of legislation and laws of ours to some extent.

the chick that was a bitch to me worked at a pharmacy. i've got the habbit of just asking for a "sharps kit" so maybe if i said a diabetic pack or insulin kit she may have changed her attitude, i dont know. but it's definitely not the first time i've bought them from there and i'm sure this lady has served me with a kit before.

i just got blown off by my fried up friend so im gonna finish off the bottle of jack and enjoy the opiate buzz i'll have going very shortly
 
DW, I never suggested K as a silver-bullet cure :)

You would need to want to quit, and to take K on its own, in calculated doses.

I beat my cravings for amps using K and Nicotine patches. It worked like a charm.
 
^dude, you've got posts about this somewhere on here hey? i remember following your story some time ago but a lot has gone in and out of my head since then.
 
yea jammy, im sure it has plenty of potential tho
if LSD kept me off it for a week with the willingness to quit, im sure K wud b helpful - im definitely not denying that one!
i think my problem with my relapse was that i imbibed the meth and the K at the same time....and there was more meth than K!
 
^ That was definitely a problem. Remember that K actually enhances the meth high (and lowers your tolerance acquisition) if taken with meth.

The idea is to abstain from meth completely and take the K in small doses to battle some of the withdrawals and in occasional large doses in which you "reprogram" yourself. It is through this "reprogramming" that the urge to take a given drug seems to completely disappear over time.


I have personally found Nicotine patches to be *extremely* helpful for battling intense cravings and lack of focus, as well as depression (which the small doses of K are already helping with). I was starting to function properly by the 2nd week, IIRC.

Here is the link to my guide to using K for depression. Feel free to link it anywhere on TDS as I'd love to get as many people as possible to see it (and preferably give me feedback if they end up using it).

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=372731

If you guys have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!
 
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i neeeeed something to curb cravings im dying over here. 3rd straight day, had a pill today worked for a bit but then on the comedown felt crappy wanted a pipe BAD BAD BAD(resisted, i was with a mate n couldn't get any THANK GOD)
its consumed my every thought !! go away meth you bitch:(:(
but im beating it so far =D now just want bed but my mate has taken up the only couch, me not happy. plus hes sleeping naked without a blanket. i am disturbed for life.
AND im at his work with no car so i cant go home to bed, frustrating as i feel shit from the pill & need bed
 
^ Try nicotine patches for now.

If you don't smoke, get the lowest dose patch (7mg?) and cut it into quarters. Use only a quarter, and if you ever find yourself feeling jittery or nauseas, immediately take it off, wait till the nausea is gone, and then use half of that quarter.

p.s. is your friend hot? if so, jump on it! ;)
 
im a heavy smoker unfortunately i've had way to many today, my lungs hate me
unfortunately Jammy I have already slept with the guy many yrs back and I do not intend to again, and he is much too old for me! :(
 
^ Oooooh YEAH! :D

*goes to do something naughty*

=D

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Claire: well, you can always try higher doses of the patch then. Although it is quite tricky to use the patches and smoke at the same time - and very dangerous actually.
 
Jamshyd said:
^ That was definitely a problem. Remember that K actually enhances the meth high (and lowers your tolerance acquisition) if taken with meth.

The idea is to abstain from meth completely and take the K in small doses to battle some of the withdrawals and in occasional large doses in which you "reprogram" yourself. It is through this "reprogramming" that the urge to take a given drug seems to completely disappear over time.


I have personally found Nicotine patches to be *extremely* helpful for battling intense cravings and lack of focus, as well as depression (which the small doses of K are already helping with). I was starting to function properly by the 2nd week, IIRC.

Here is the link to my guide to using K for depression. Feel free to link it anywhere on TDS as I'd love to get as many people as possible to see it (and preferably give me feedback if they end up using it).

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=372731

If you guys have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!
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I've always loved K, and for me K and speed/ice was a bomb combination.

But I liked K to begin with.

Personally, using it to curb speed cravings just wouldn't work for me. :\ I would just crave speed with it too much.
 
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