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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only - V.2: MERGED with amps quitting thread

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It sounds simple, but the easiest way for me to avoid my old habits is to gain new ones.. like while i was in rehab i was working basically all day everyday, for nothing (it paid my rent), but i felt better about myself cause i was helping others while helping myself to change

Now that i'm out in the world again, i don't have that much work & my thoughts are coming back, but i have way more control over them now..

I'm looking into group classes at a church (i'm not really into that scene, but the values taught there give me a better foundation than what i had) & volunteer work for when i'm not getting paid work

Cause even if i don't get paid, at least i'm helping someone else & meeting positive people that provide a better influence
 
Im just interested, watching documentaries and the show Intervention about smoking Methamphetamine.
The people doesn't really look high after smoking the meth.

Like, the people in my city (which has a very large number of Amphetamine addicts) whom I have gotten to know and did drugs with.
After a line of Amphetamine or a IV shot you are really wired, talking fast like hell and talk MUCH about nothing.

Body movements increase and you can tell when a person is on speed.
People who smoke meth almost seem calm - why?
 
^ smoking meth is really chill, mainly because it crosses the BBB more readily than regular d-amp, so it feels smoother - you just get the mental effects without the physical side effects that d-amp gives you.. + it's more euphoric

that's why it's more addictive too :\
 
I slipped up. Minor set back. I was drunk and before I could comprehend the situation I was in, It was literally being racked up. :S

All good now, except some guilt afterward.
 
^ Yeah, I've slipped up this week too. I used a couple of times, and made several new dealers in the process. Sometimes I feel like I'm subconsciously trying to sabotage all my efforts to get clean. But at least tonight I'm going to stay with my partner for a few days, so that should put me back on track! I don't want this "lapse" to be a total "relapse".
 
DeLee said:
Im just interested, watching documentaries and the show Intervention about smoking Methamphetamine.
The people doesn't really look high after smoking the meth.

Like, the people in my city (which has a very large number of Amphetamine addicts) whom I have gotten to know and did drugs with.
After a line of Amphetamine or a IV shot you are really wired, talking fast like hell and talk MUCH about nothing.

Body movements increase and you can tell when a person is on speed.
People who smoke meth almost seem calm - why?
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It could just be a tolerence thing. Nowadays I can smoke a large amount of crystal and appear completely sober (except maybe for talking more then usual!). The same amount, years ago, would have made me look obviously spun.
 
Last year I was popping/snorting amphetamines (Adderall) all day, every day. I'd never sleep and I'd never eat. The comedowns were horrifying, especially when I didn't have booze. When you're always strung out and/or drunk, your mind goes through some disturbing changes. I finally wound up in the hospital with my heart rate jacked.

I used to feel like I was on top of the world when I first started getting spun. Slowly the experience became more destructive, and at the same time I was feeling less and less capable of stopping. I'll (hopefully) never touch an upper again.
 
Amphetamines was never my DOC (it was Heroin) but slamming a huge dose of amphetamine(street powder) was very euphoric. Especially if you were drunk before and not ready for such massive injektion.

One time i got home to a dear friend and a dealer was there just before me and forgot to take his shot so they gave the liquid to me saying I can have it and it shouldn't be that strong.

Well, the shot contained like a gram of potent amphetamine. Boy, was i wired.. he he.
Anyway, Amphetamine comedowns has never felt BAD for me, I have friends who wanna die on the comedowns but I never felt any negative effects from Amphetamine.

The worst I felt was when I used to extracted the main ingredient (Methylphenidate) from Concerta and injekt.. felt good at the time but the day after is horrible.

And thanks for your replies to my earlier qustion!
 
175 days sober from slamming meth. I was addicted to meth coke and crack for 3 years for some reason i felt i needed the upper to feel normal. i have horrible ADHD and take vyvanse daily i never abuse it but without it life doesnt seem right. So i dont really know what to do at least i havent shot meth or coke in 175 days but i dont wanna take amphs every day till i ide... Im a full time student with a great social life ( i smoke marijuana) but still feel like i have nothign to do and thats when i crave...
 
I spent around 3 months smoking nearly every day, occasionally 10-15 days in a row with forced sleep throughout, because i spent a lot of time alone due to being 17..
but I tried to quit around august 16th? after using prob 5 times in 2 weeks, my record since starting, and lasted a week before i spent a few days up, then quit for 3 more weeks.
Now im using only on weekends, and find it relatively manageable. I plan on reducing even further, though, since in the past 4 months ive lost 30-35 pounds, and been smoking an average of 3 packs everytime i smoke any, not to mention never doing anything active for very long and the stigma plus damage of relationships with family.
Meth is no joke, wish i wouldve never hit that pipe back on may 22nd.
 
**hAyzzZZ** said:
I slipped up. Minor set back. I was drunk and before I could comprehend the situation I was in, It was literally being racked up. :S

All good now, except some guilt afterward.
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That's a big part of why i steer clear of booze now. It's always gotten me into trouble - mainly because i hate being drunk, so to escape the drunk feeling i'd get high on whatever came in front of me- coke, meth, benzos, opiates, etc
 
taking adderall was literally suicidal for me. I first took it for golf, having scored the best round of my life when I was on it, then I started taking it for school, and got diagnosed as having "ADD." I am sure there are people that are legitimately ADD but for me it was just to gain an edge.

I went to a private school where tons of kids took adderall and ritalin, and they all hated it. The ones that were on it had been on it because their parents basically ADD'd them when they were about 10.

AFter eight months I was snorting it because everyone in my fraternity did and I thought it was normal. I always had a little bit on me at all times (usually in my back left pocket) just to have. I literally killed myself while taking this. The only thing it did was help me focus for longer on things I wasn't interested in.

I crave it when I studied for finals, and now I am so glad I am clean and my grades improved. It is a shame that other people out there will make the same mistake, take adderall, have initial success, only to become dependent on it later. I guess that's the way it is.
 
A clear flag of someone who really has ADD verses the guy who goes to a doc bluffing for drugs is the real ADD kid often could care less if he has them or not. I had a standing offer from a doc to script them and took months to drag my ass in for an appointment. I use it as a tool, not a miracle drug. If you stay within a normal therapeutic range, you build tolerance so fast you can hardly tell you've taken anything. The utility of the med continues, however. Just don't bump up the dose. Self control is the biggest player in this dance.
 
oldkaw said:
A clear flag of someone who really has ADD verses the guy who goes to a doc bluffing for drugs is the real ADD kid often could care less if he has them or not. I had a standing offer from a doc to script them and took months to drag my ass in for an appointment. I use it as a tool, not a miracle drug. If you stay within a normal therapeutic range, you build tolerance so fast you can hardly tell you've taken anything. The utility of the med continues, however. Just don't bump up the dose. Self control is the biggest player in this dance.
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Very true. Dexamphetamine is and should be used as a tool, just like morphine is a tool to reduce physical pain in someone. I'm aware of my own failings in regard to using the prescribed/therapeutic dose at all times so I have my d-amp dispensed daily (40mg IR per day). Doesn't stop me saving 1 or 2 tabs each day so eventually I can abuse them, but it definitely stops an intense binge upon filling my script (300x 5mg d-amp IR tablets).
 
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I've been clean from amps/stims for three months

Here's a rap I wrote today.

Contains reference to IV'ing

NSFW:

Amped.

They bind us, by all this shit that doesn’t define us,

laws in place that constrict thought and try to confine us

the story of a guy whose choices get taken out of context, they hex he gets vexed and then he writes text on the walls,

tells the story of it all, about his life his pain and strife with a knife self defense against his crazy wife,

and the same blade he used to slice her fine, was the same blade he used to cut his lines

but he’s willing to pay the price for paradise a baggie of fine white crystal ice that’ll definitely get him nice

and what about tomorrow? That isn’t a thought when crashing has him in sorrow.

And he progresses to the needle, that quick rush, instant blush speaking rapid mush.

One you start to inject, when you’re sick it’s impossible to reject from a so called friend a rig full of gear.

Now everyday he lives his life in fear, knowing that the end is near.
 
L-tyrosine and a good multivitamin (with biotin for hair and skin health) were lifesavers for my quitting. I would also recommend 60mg of coenzyme Q10 for heart health and antioxidant qualities. With the benzos, I stuck with 1 mg daily of ativan for a week and then didnt use them anymore. I also found a great sponsor and support group. Good luck to all here and congrats to everyone who is working on taking control back.
 
panic in paradise said:
"This is the Speed/Meth/Amphetamines MEGA Thread. This thread will focus on the unique challenges and problems caused by amphetamine dependence. Talk about your struggles with psychosis, battle to get clean and generally get support here!"

- chicpoena

JUST TO ADD THE BASIC RULES HERE:
- no advocating anything in the amphetamine family
- think of wat u say wen u post.....diffrent ppl here r at diffrent stages of recovery - cud u b triggering a lapse/relapse by something u say
- no personal attacks.....plz PM the mods if u r upset by something a user has said.....we can usually sort it out
- this thread is about addiction, for addicts.....if ur not an addict, u r welcome to hav ur piece to say, but it must b helpful for us who r suffering from amphetamine addiction
-support/advice/(negative) experiences and ur offering help to others is the basis of this thread
- if u find ur post isnt here, high chance its been deleted cos u didnt read these rules properly
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Pre-information: I was on adderall, ritalin, and/or cylert medically from age 9 - 22.

I started out on ice. That was my first drug. Oct 2002 was my first taste. By May 2005 I tried my first needle. Which led to hanging around people that cooked it. Which led to leaving home. Which led to basically being otherwise homeless. Which led to getting in lots of trouble. I almost got killed. I got raped. I had a lot of fake friends. I was hungry a lot. But I guess when I had dope, things were okay? Or so I thought... By Nov 2005 there was nothing left for me to mess up, so I left the city I was in ... to start a new ... 4 hours north. That was the last time I used before I found it again, in my new city. The second time around was different. The intent was not to self-destruct like I had last time. Sure enough though [time period end of 2007 / beginning of 2008], it was all I wanted to do (besides to go work -- I had a nice job as a therapist). Eventually I put the needle down, for good, and just went to smoking it. And then, I went to GHB (which is a whole other story). But I finally reached a point where I said -- you know what, I just can't get all spun anymore. I need to come back to reality and quit tweaking. So to anyone out there that went thru the struggle, good luck. You can quit, you just have to WANT to. <3
 
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I have not used for 6 months up until two days ago.

My best friends 19th birthday.. Last time I used was with him 6 months ago..
We ended up getting some shard and we all (6) didn't sleep for 36+ hours after snorting.

Today, two days later I had my best friend go get me a bag because I was fending so hard. I have smoked 90% of it since 4pm (12 hrs ago) and now trying to save the rest to get me thru the withdrawal in about 5 hours (8am).

What do i do? Taper dosage to comedown easier and not fiend so bad?
Throw it away now and smash my pipe and go thru hell withdrawal in a few hours?
Any advice please.

I was able to quit for 6 months :(...
Is this a relapse??
 
^ Most of us have setbacks in our recoveries. Don't be too hard on yourself. Try to think of it as a lapse rather than a relapse. A lapse is basically "oops, I slipped up!" while a relapse is "fuck this shit, I'm giving up and I'm gonna start using again!" In my experience, tapering doesn't really work when it comes to a methamphetamine addiction. My advice would be to smash your pipe, flush whatever meth you have left down the toilet, and go through the withdrawals. Good luck! :)
 
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