DexterMeth
Bluelighter
Piracetam, and nootropics in general.
Amphetamines are unbelievably old school.
Amphetamines are unbelievably old school.
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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only - V.2: MERGED with amps quitting thread
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I actually don't mind the crash, I just hate the actual part of coming down. I would MUCH rather be in the mental state of being completely off the amps then being a little high and coming down.
When I'm starting to come down all I can think about it re-dosing, when I'm already down and feel absolutely beat re-dosing sounds about as appealing as dragging my dick through glass.
Although I feel tired/like shit, I feel a little at peace with myself, being that's it's finally giving my body a chance to recover after speeding for so long. Granted, if I actually have tasks to do and can't just pass out until I feel like getting up I feel a lot different about the situation, but I generally try to plan it around that.
I'm currently 12 days clean, I always seemed to relapse at the 7-8 day mark prior to this. I've been working out about everyday and am getting back into fitness. I used to be big into body building prior to my run in with amps.
I'm bulking right now but the real test is going to be when it comes time to lean out.
When I'm starting to come down all I can think about it re-dosing, when I'm already down and feel absolutely beat re-dosing sounds about as appealing as dragging my dick through glass.
Although I feel tired/like shit, I feel a little at peace with myself, being that's it's finally giving my body a chance to recover after speeding for so long. Granted, if I actually have tasks to do and can't just pass out until I feel like getting up I feel a lot different about the situation, but I generally try to plan it around that.
I'm currently 12 days clean, I always seemed to relapse at the 7-8 day mark prior to this. I've been working out about everyday and am getting back into fitness. I used to be big into body building prior to my run in with amps.
I'm bulking right now but the real test is going to be when it comes time to lean out.
Epsilon Alpha
Bluelighter
So ummm yeah not sure how to break this:
Long term heavy amphetamine abuse in susceptible individuals might cause the same changes seen in bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. I go over it in ADD, but perhaps some of you could benefit from treatment for BP depression such as modafinil, seroquel, or lamotrigine.
I'm interested in hearing if anyone finds that they fit the symptoms for bipolar or schizophrenia following heavy amphetamine use and has found success with the above medications.
Best,
EA
Long term heavy amphetamine abuse in susceptible individuals might cause the same changes seen in bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. I go over it in ADD, but perhaps some of you could benefit from treatment for BP depression such as modafinil, seroquel, or lamotrigine.
I'm interested in hearing if anyone finds that they fit the symptoms for bipolar or schizophrenia following heavy amphetamine use and has found success with the above medications.
Best,
EA
misspharmacyashley
Bluelighter
I've done very well on wellbutrin, mirtazapine and risperidone.. I'm actually off the risperidone now and am taking the wellbutrin and mirtazapine. I have noticed that my mind hasn't ever been the same since I've done actual 'heavy' use of methamp. I've always been an anxious, paranoid person with horrible social anxiety which is why I typically like to stick with downers... and after being off the speed it seemed that all those mental health issues were a little heightened. I'm seeing a suboxone doctor whose also a psychiatrist which is really beneficial.
Its been a year today since quitting adderall. Eh just now getting energy back. Fck i had to learn how to use my own motivation and energy to get shit done. It has been rough and days have been long. I am so fckn thankful i have made it one year off of Adderall.
Go me.
Go me.
DexterMeth
Bluelighter
Yes and yes. I may have actually been born with bipolar, and suffered a pure schizophrenic break in the ER after I got in a car accident. I've used amps just a couple times since then and it's been terrible. I might look into some of those meds. I can't stand seroquel.
oxymoron310
Bluelighter
Amen. I really only use amphetamines for school now. I do coke for my partying and value every moment of sleep I get.
Gabapentin is a weird ass drug, but helpful.
ashstorm
Bluelighter
No matter how much we get it never seems to be enough. Tolerance has been getting higher each week and while we both know we need to stop we can't seem to.
It just seems like a never ending cycle. I don't know if either myself or my partner have the will power to just say no.
I've claimed next weekend as a meth free weekend, and its my goal to get through that weekend.
The real test will be Thursday/Friday/Saturday and saying no..
It just seems like a never ending cycle. I don't know if either myself or my partner have the will power to just say no.
I've claimed next weekend as a meth free weekend, and its my goal to get through that weekend.
The real test will be Thursday/Friday/Saturday and saying no..
fakeplastictrees4
Bluelighter
need some advice here please, from those that have experience.
i have been taking amphetamines/methylphenidate for a month now. Everyday minus a 4 days break after 2 straight weeks and I stopped for 2 days just yesterday and the day before. I took some ritalin today though, because i felt pretty tired and shitty, and i have a lot to do.
how do I know if I have a problem/ budding problem? i dont know if i should stop, because at this point I know I could...but im unsure if it will escalate if i dont, and ill becoming increasingly dependant on it.
It wasn't a huge issue for me to stop for those small breaks.
i have been taking amphetamines/methylphenidate for a month now. Everyday minus a 4 days break after 2 straight weeks and I stopped for 2 days just yesterday and the day before. I took some ritalin today though, because i felt pretty tired and shitty, and i have a lot to do.
how do I know if I have a problem/ budding problem? i dont know if i should stop, because at this point I know I could...but im unsure if it will escalate if i dont, and ill becoming increasingly dependant on it.
It wasn't a huge issue for me to stop for those small breaks.
recovery
Greenlighter
hello, i am a meth addict, i smoke it, tho i am new to the drug and have only been using for 5 months; i am highly addicted to it. i am looking for help of any kind. i want to be a recovering addict. i steel from my parents, siblings and from my surrounding neighbors. have done horrid actions to get my fix. i recently moved across the country to relieve myself of this habit. but i was unsuccessful in fact the first person i met offered it to me i had gone 2 and a half weeks with out it, tho feening for a puff i had no intentions on locating a dealer i wanted to find drug free friends and sober people to place myself around but by finding my habit with the first person i introduced myself to i could not resist the strong temptations as i was still going through withdraws, and continued on binge. at this very point i am 12 hours free of it but i feel the urge as i type this to say f*** trying to get help f*** recovery, and just go get twacked out but as i was coming down from my last session i had a deep emotional reawakening, the "boogie man" as i call it (for it being my nightmare) has me rapped around its bones like skin... thus leading me to realize i would rather die at that point then continue my usage so i proceeded to attempt my thought of everlasting freedom from meth with a 40 cal. hand gun. i closed my eyes and pulled the trigger; it jammed; as i sat back in my chair wondering if this meant i will be an addict for the rest of my being i came to the conclusion that infact this is my second chance, i dont want to be a meth addict any more .... i never wanted to be.. i wanted to be happy and thats all i was seeking.. but insted i found true darknest and true depression, pure misery. but at the same time i found a false escape from reality... i have faith that some day i will be able to say im drug free. i do know it is a long tedious road to recovery with glory at the end. but my problem is i believe that i wont be able to find a median that will help me stay on the sober life road and stop me from switching lanes again. i am a very dependent person and need someone or something around constantly...i am not looking for another drug or subtance for me to get addicted to insted of meth but infact a raucousness, the feeling of not needing thus innatimet objects.... i dont know if i am looking for rehab or if a single sentence that will help me but i know i am incapable of doing this on my own the people ithoughtwere my friends abandoned me and leaving m with only the one person i knew as a sorse of reflection apon my addiction and as us addict know if one addict is trying to go clean and is around one that is not trying to it makes in nearly impassable to achieve such set goals so please leave me words of enlightenment and encouragement for i can not locate what i need in people i know nor my own self, thank you ...... anonymous....
tripnotyzm
Bluelighter
That's great news!! Glad to hear you are moving on without it in your life anymore.
Hi there, new to the forum.
Well I've been using meth since last Oct. I hate stims, but have found this very enjoyable. I was a opiate addict for a long time. I finally got off of them a year ago, and now meth is my current DOC. I guess I like it because you feel great, and after years on opiates, I feel like I'm alive and awake for life.
I went on my longest binge a couple weeks ago and learned my lesson. I usually go 3 days tops and quit for a week. Mainly because I don't have the money to keep it up and I crash hard because I don't sleep during those 3 days. I have high BP, so i shouldn't be doing it anyways.
But 2 weeks ago I was on it for 5 days and started to have allergic reaction type symptoms. I thought it was a bad batch because I re-upped the 4th day. My lips swelled, I itched like crazy, I developed a blister on my lip (I ate salty chips and I do sometimes get salt blisters, but I feel its related to meth since it happened at the same time all the other painful crap showed up) And it was hard to breathe. I managed to get a regular ol inhaler from my sister that helped. I decided on day 5 that the discomfort was ruining my high. So I quit for a few days and then tried the same batch again. I felt great again. So I came to the conclusion that my body just cannot handle long binges. So now I'm just going to binge for 2 days, and rest for a week. Its been a week since my last use, and scored a nice batch today. I know its better that I quit, but I am not ready. But I have had a taste of the ugly side of this drug. I guess its a blessing to not be able to binge to long. It freaked me out, but I just thought I'd share my experience with everyone. I have tried to research the symptoms that I was experiencing, and found very few topics or articles that match what I went thru.
Well I've been using meth since last Oct. I hate stims, but have found this very enjoyable. I was a opiate addict for a long time. I finally got off of them a year ago, and now meth is my current DOC. I guess I like it because you feel great, and after years on opiates, I feel like I'm alive and awake for life.
I went on my longest binge a couple weeks ago and learned my lesson. I usually go 3 days tops and quit for a week. Mainly because I don't have the money to keep it up and I crash hard because I don't sleep during those 3 days. I have high BP, so i shouldn't be doing it anyways.
But 2 weeks ago I was on it for 5 days and started to have allergic reaction type symptoms. I thought it was a bad batch because I re-upped the 4th day. My lips swelled, I itched like crazy, I developed a blister on my lip (I ate salty chips and I do sometimes get salt blisters, but I feel its related to meth since it happened at the same time all the other painful crap showed up) And it was hard to breathe. I managed to get a regular ol inhaler from my sister that helped. I decided on day 5 that the discomfort was ruining my high. So I quit for a few days and then tried the same batch again. I felt great again. So I came to the conclusion that my body just cannot handle long binges. So now I'm just going to binge for 2 days, and rest for a week. Its been a week since my last use, and scored a nice batch today. I know its better that I quit, but I am not ready. But I have had a taste of the ugly side of this drug. I guess its a blessing to not be able to binge to long. It freaked me out, but I just thought I'd share my experience with everyone. I have tried to research the symptoms that I was experiencing, and found very few topics or articles that match what I went thru.
selfmedicated
Greenlighter
I used meth daily for 3 and a half years, quit about 8 years ago. During that 8 years Ive struggled with alcohol and oxy. 2 weeks ago I decided it would be a good idea to smoke some meth.....in that 2 weeks ive used more often than not. I want to be done. i know where it leads. im doing it behind my bfs back....he asks me every day what im on...i say oxy...but i know sooner or later if i continue he will find out. im totally ashamed, i never ever thought i would be using meth again
How to quit...
I did a stint some years ago of being a functional meth addict, had a professional well paying job. Mostly I performed fine, on 2 memorable occasions my focus was so bad I was reading through a file I was working later with no recollection of the notes I'd written the day before after 4 days awake. I never stole from anyone, never did any crime to fuel the addiction (other than the act of acquiring the drug itself lol). I began to notice other friends doing the same style of use/abuse were slipping, one notably who didn't leave his house for 2 weeks half of that being 7 days solid awake time.
How to ease back into normality:
Look at this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17808933/ns/health-addictions/t/man-chronicles-his-death-meth-use/#.T3TCctVqjwk
I did a stint some years ago of being a functional meth addict, had a professional well paying job. Mostly I performed fine, on 2 memorable occasions my focus was so bad I was reading through a file I was working later with no recollection of the notes I'd written the day before after 4 days awake. I never stole from anyone, never did any crime to fuel the addiction (other than the act of acquiring the drug itself lol). I began to notice other friends doing the same style of use/abuse were slipping, one notably who didn't leave his house for 2 weeks half of that being 7 days solid awake time.
How to ease back into normality:
- Find some sleepers (non-benzo you don't need a substitute addiction). If you get a desire to get messed up, drop one and go to bed, the want for the drug will pass.
- Socially shift to those people you know who have kids, married. Their idea of a big night is dinner, a dvd and bed by 10pm. Its amazing how different your outlook becomes in changing your social landscape.
- Restrict your own access to liquid cash by getting a "buddy" to go co-signer on your bank account, no withdrawing possible without both signatures.
- Educate yourself about the long term detrimental affects of meth use.
- Search YouTube for graphic/f'ed up addict videos, ones that leave you shocked.
- Watch "Requiem for a Dream" saw this made me revile at the thought of drug use.
- Tell people what you are embarking upon. Most of your friends will know or suspect you hammer meth, but didn't know how to approach it with you, you will find support in the most unexpected people.
Look at this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17808933/ns/health-addictions/t/man-chronicles-his-death-meth-use/#.T3TCctVqjwk
footscrazy
Bluelight Crew
recovery, I hope you stick at it. There is hope, you can do it. I used for years and now it's been 14 months since I quit, and I no longer miss it. Sometimes I still crave, but I know I wont use it again, and I'm ok with that.
mygreenbic
Bluelighter
help for those in hell
I have empathy for crystal addicts, I'm a decade long opiate and Benz o addict and one a month i get a script of 60 30mg ir amphetamine salts. I usually binge through the whole script and i know how f dark life can get. Luckily here in Pittsburgh there isn't much crystal method aside from afrom at raves and i usually don't seek it out because my interests at raves lies in mdma, k, and acid. But knowing how the amp crash is, if i could buy some glass when my script was gone i would be in some serious fucking trouble. At least there is treatment for opiate addiction, mesh there generally isn't. But there is a light at the end of the tunnel, if you ate determined to quit there is a protocol of high dose gabapentin nightly, along with a benzo antagonist (i forget the name i think it is flumazil or something of that nature). So othis protocol kis showing promise in repairing brain damage and alleviating the severe cravings. It also has shown to significantly reduce the relapse rate. You can find some information on this via the wiki page for gabapentin. And the good news is, psychiatrists prescribe gala like candy. Just tell your psych you have severe anxiety andin the past abstention was very therapeutic for you. He will be relieved you are not asking for xanax or klonopin. If he asks what d dose worked for you, tel him you were on 600mg three times a day. Take 1200 of it every night and that will leave you an extra 600 a day to toy with. Although abstention is not scheduled, it does cause a speedy euphoria before your tolerance develops which you will appreciate being used to that sort of feeling as it repairs your brain. This regimen along with magnesium supplements, a high protein diet, high fluid intake, and plenty of sleep should be your best bet at escaping the evil grip of meth/amphetamine addiction.
I really hope this helps at least a couple people. One more tip, get rid of all of your dealers numbers, i did that with my heroin dealers and i was sorry to lose my hook ups, but in the long run it helped me dramatically.
good luck and chin up. You create your own reality, remember that.
Love,
Mygreenbic
I have empathy for crystal addicts, I'm a decade long opiate and Benz o addict and one a month i get a script of 60 30mg ir amphetamine salts. I usually binge through the whole script and i know how f dark life can get. Luckily here in Pittsburgh there isn't much crystal method aside from afrom at raves and i usually don't seek it out because my interests at raves lies in mdma, k, and acid. But knowing how the amp crash is, if i could buy some glass when my script was gone i would be in some serious fucking trouble. At least there is treatment for opiate addiction, mesh there generally isn't. But there is a light at the end of the tunnel, if you ate determined to quit there is a protocol of high dose gabapentin nightly, along with a benzo antagonist (i forget the name i think it is flumazil or something of that nature). So othis protocol kis showing promise in repairing brain damage and alleviating the severe cravings. It also has shown to significantly reduce the relapse rate. You can find some information on this via the wiki page for gabapentin. And the good news is, psychiatrists prescribe gala like candy. Just tell your psych you have severe anxiety andin the past abstention was very therapeutic for you. He will be relieved you are not asking for xanax or klonopin. If he asks what d dose worked for you, tel him you were on 600mg three times a day. Take 1200 of it every night and that will leave you an extra 600 a day to toy with. Although abstention is not scheduled, it does cause a speedy euphoria before your tolerance develops which you will appreciate being used to that sort of feeling as it repairs your brain. This regimen along with magnesium supplements, a high protein diet, high fluid intake, and plenty of sleep should be your best bet at escaping the evil grip of meth/amphetamine addiction.
I really hope this helps at least a couple people. One more tip, get rid of all of your dealers numbers, i did that with my heroin dealers and i was sorry to lose my hook ups, but in the long run it helped me dramatically.
good luck and chin up. You create your own reality, remember that.
Love,
Mygreenbic
mygreenbic
Bluelighter
I see your logic, friend but there are several reasons i continue to get the script. First off i have a severe addictive personality. It is hard for me to turn anything down, especially something as addictive and sought after as 30mg amp salts. For the most part i am primarily an opiate addict, and for the longest time i knew an old shipped freak who got loads of morphine ir and fent patches. So for a long time we traded and supported each others habits. Well about six months ago she disappeared. I was left without my opiates and without that quick and easy trade. So to support my opiate habit i started selling them to pay for my subutex doctor. Well unfortunately the people buying them got spun out real quick and stopped buying them. So now i habitually get my script filled kind of as a source of income or even as hope that i can get opiates for them. Well time went by and they could only sit on my table for so long before took one and one turned into three and three turned into benders. I got afflicted just like most people do to amps
Drk.Mob.Girl
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Hello everyone,
Im in need off support. I've been a meth addict for 3-4 year. I hit rock bottom and then got help. I moved to Mexico about a 1yr and 2 months ago. the last time I had used was the day that I was gonna fly from L.A to Mexico. I stayed clean for 1yr and a month, wich has been the logest ive been off this shit. Like a month a go I told my friend i wanted to get high and i was convinced that I was gonna be able to use it once in a blue moon. it was like that for 2 weeks i would go to her and smoke for like 3 hours then would go home satisfied with out wanting more. about 2 weeks a go i started buying it on my own and havent been able to stop since. i keep saying just this last bowl and just keep buying more. I really dont want to disapoint my parents once again. specially my lil girl that is just 5 years old and here in mexico the rehab center are a shit hole i was in one for 3 months because of depression and heavy drinking adn was the worse ever. they threath u likea piece of shit. i think i cameout more fucken depressed and mentally drained. and Im just alone her in they new fucked up country with no moral support what so ever or without even having someone to go to and tell them whats going on IM SO FUCKEN ALONE AND LOST. I dont want to go through this shit again. Someone please help!!
Im in need off support. I've been a meth addict for 3-4 year. I hit rock bottom and then got help. I moved to Mexico about a 1yr and 2 months ago. the last time I had used was the day that I was gonna fly from L.A to Mexico. I stayed clean for 1yr and a month, wich has been the logest ive been off this shit. Like a month a go I told my friend i wanted to get high and i was convinced that I was gonna be able to use it once in a blue moon. it was like that for 2 weeks i would go to her and smoke for like 3 hours then would go home satisfied with out wanting more. about 2 weeks a go i started buying it on my own and havent been able to stop since. i keep saying just this last bowl and just keep buying more. I really dont want to disapoint my parents once again. specially my lil girl that is just 5 years old and here in mexico the rehab center are a shit hole i was in one for 3 months because of depression and heavy drinking adn was the worse ever. they threath u likea piece of shit. i think i cameout more fucken depressed and mentally drained. and Im just alone her in they new fucked up country with no moral support what so ever or without even having someone to go to and tell them whats going on IM SO FUCKEN ALONE AND LOST. I dont want to go through this shit again. Someone please help!!
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