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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only - V.2: MERGED with amps quitting thread

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It's a love/hate thing for me. It makes me such a better/more efficient writer, but the comedown is terrible for me with my pre-existing anxiety issues.
 
I miss them, especially since I don't socialize really with anyone right now. I'd get some shit I really need done, done. However I know I'd end up getting suicidal when I run out, and back into the cycle of abuse. Amphetamines really fuck up my self control, with itself and other drugs. But fuck, I'd love some :(. I'd love some sort of drug high, and some good motivation. Opiates may give me a self of well being taking as prescribed or maintenance atm (taking subs till I get my methadone script refilled), but no real high, as well as little motivation.
 
Sounds like my life today. Taking more and more every day constantly checking the bottle until it is completely empty. Searching everywhere to see how u can get it when your rx runs out
 
SplatChrome said:
I'd get some shit I really need done, done.
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But fuck, I'd love some :(. I'd love some sort of drug high, and some good motivation. Opiates may give me a self of well being taking as prescribed or maintenance atm (taking subs till I get my methadone script refilled), but no real high, as well as little motivation.
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Don't we all :(. With amphetamines (well, methamphetamine in my case) I find that when I am coming off them and stopping for a few days or whatever I have to literally FORCE myself out of bed to do some kind of exercise (in my case it was walking up and down my street a few times with the hubby and our daughter). It only would take maybe a half hour or so but it got me (and everyone else) out of the house, in the sunshine, breathing in some fresh air. I would be feeling much better (motivation wise) after a week and almost back to 100% in 2, maybe even less.

Drugs won't 'fix' everything (and lord I wish they did!), it will take a little effort on your part, even though you don't want to. Catching up on missed sleep is a good idea but don't stay trapped in your bed. Sleep for awhile then get up and wash the dishes or feed the dog (if you have one) or walk outside, you'd be surprised at how much something so little as what I've mentioned will help you out in a big way. If you are tired after doing those things, take a nap.

I've found that once I got off my ass and started moving around and taking care of what needed to be taken care of I would get caught up in whatever I was doing and before I knew it the day was over. The mornings were always the hardest time of the day for me. It's all about baby steps.. you'll feel better before you know it if you keep your mind busy and body moving as much as you can.

I hope that helps... good luck!
 
So I have this problem with prescription amphetamines (adderall) and need some help

Hello. I have a very serious abuse problem with adderall. Every three weeks or so I manage to drop 200mgs within a 48 hour window. This dosage causes me to enter a weird 'manic state' that I don't particularly enjoy nor does my wife of one year. In all honesty I can't figure out why I keep doing it since the repercussions are excruciatingly painful physically and emotionally. I am able to totally go without the drug for about three weeks. After that this itch sets in compelling to find the nearest doctor. You wouldn't (maybe you would) believe how easy it is to get a doctor to prescribe amphetamines. I am wondering if anybody has some advice on how to make the three week period permanent.
 
One option is to make a plan when you are beginning to relapse. It sounds like you have a set idea that something out of your control happens at 3 weeks. As a point of interest, my "relapse rate" was at 2 weeks.

Do I have too much clean time (8 months) when I find myself wanting to say to you that... It's a choice.

You recognized that for you the downs outweigh the ups? Knowledge IS power.

After I quit amps - for several months (even recently) I'd take reasonable amounts of Bronkaid (ephedrine) just to scratch that itch.
 
Thanks mami that was helpful. I always considered the rehab mentality to be a one month solves everything. Obviously that is not the case at all.
 
For me, residential rehab was useful in that it provided me a place to physically get "time". Time is not the be-all-end-all... of course (as you recognized).

What part about what I said was helpful? It's a question for you; don't necessarily answer here.
 
Some good advice here! I'm going to merge this with our Meth/Amphetamines Megathread, just to keep things tidy :)
 
Hey everybody, first post on bluelight. Saw this thread and thought I better register.

First of I'm 20, live in Australia and I was addicted to meth for 3 years almost.
I've been clean nearly nine months, I still struggle with anxiety and depression but I don't have cravings anymore and I'm proud to say I have been around it since quitting and turned it down.
Yeah anxiety is a bitch hey, still finding it hard to go into public places without getting symptoms like sweaty palms, increased heart rate, dry mouth and all the other usual suspects.
My preferred method of use was pipe, I would easily smash anywhere from a couple G's to a ball every weekend for probably two years and a half of my addiction.
Life is still hard, I alienated all of my true friends many years ago to hang-out with a bunch of dealers and hustlers. Once I quit I left them behind as well so it does get lonely. But it's been well worth it.

Anyway I just wanted to wish everyone here luck with their recovery and to remember that everyday is a milestone. Relapsing always sucks because of the disappointment and guilt that comes with it but every time you quit you go abit further. Take your time and you will beat this shit.
You must treat everyday you are clean as a massive leap. You are better than your addiction, you mean more than your addiction.
Love to all the guys and girls on here and I wish you all the best for your future.
See ya round :D
 
how i did it

I got off amphetamimes by using the staggering gabapentin method. Then tapered to1200mg gabapentin and comfort with loperamide. Loperamide does cross the blood brain barrier but is then pumped back out by pgp. Used a combo of pgp inhibitors in the form of quinine and hydroxyzine hcl. This method was sufficient to get comfortably off all amphetamines in less than a month. Study group was
100% successful with only one relapse 2 months out.
@sp0r412 twitter
 
been perscribed to vyvanse for years, up to 60mg a day. im really hoping i can handle having access to this whole bottle. I feel like they really do help as theyre intended to, but the fein in me feels like hes coming out. I wish this medicine didnt make me crave alcohol and dope so fucking badly, not to mention chain smoking. I feel like ill never find balance sometimes.
 
forgive me I'm pretty sure this is the thread for methamps, QUITTING support right?

EDIT: and yes, if anyone wants to please explain to me what Piracetam is for, and also Choline, and Phenibut? shoot me a PM I know it doesn't belong in this thread, just bringing it up because you guys were talking about it.
 
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mygreenbic said:
I got off amphetamimes by using the staggering gabapentin method. Then tapered to1200mg gabapentin and comfort with loperamide. Loperamide does cross the blood brain barrier but is then pumped back out by pgp. Used a combo of pgp inhibitors in the form of quinine and hydroxyzine hcl. This method was sufficient to get comfortably off all amphetamines in less than a month. Study group was
100% successful with only one relapse 2 months out.
@sp0r412 twitter
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I wish I never read this, but I'm kind of glad I did.
 
For all of you that love amphetamines I'm just curious why you love them so much. I get 60 30mg ir tabs a month and it almost always ends up bad. At least with a devastating crash. It's at the point where i hate having the script on me and can't wait until its gone. For those of you that do love speed is a script like the one i get like jackpot for you guys? As a long time opiate addict i guess i would be confused at someone who had a monthly bottle full of oxymoron and got no pleasure out of it. I'm on them right now and am starting to feel super miserable. I always end up on a several day long bender until they are all gone or until i can so hard that i can't handle to look at them but every month i end up hating myself in the end. Right now i am on day one and have taken 60mg twice. I am getting suboxone in the morning and really want to avoid a terrible crash until then. Do you guys recommend i keep talking small doses until then or do you think it is possible to stop now before it gets out of control again. After that i want to try and dispose of the rest of the script. I have clonazepam, gabapentin, hydroxyzine and one catapres at my disposal. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks on advance,
@sp0r412
 
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Hey mygreenbic, firstly, may I ask why you have the script in the first place? Do you really need it? If not, why do you continue to get it filled each month? Sorry if that sounds blunt...but maybe you could just not fill the script next month. Do you think that is a viable option? Or is the situation more complex than that?
 
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