Mephedrone Megathread VII: Misunderstood Marvels & Malingering Metabolites

[monkyfunky]

^ constant pain in your chest, as in all day, everyday? That's pretty concerning. Are you still using mephedrone?

I actually have a slight pain in my chest on the left side today. It's pretty minor, but not something I'd ever noticed before I did meph

 

[monkyfunky]

Reading about Fenfluramine, of which I have heard parallels drawn with mephedrone, it says that damage to the heart continued long after the drug was taken. I'm starting to get quite concerned about having done some damage to my heart myself. Would an ECG provide evidence that damage had not been done, or is it more like a liver test, where damage only shows up once a significant amount has been done?

 

[botfly]

maybe but just stop taking the shit, eat lots of heart/brain healthy food and you'll be okay. i've had getting on for 3 ounces of the shite, still get the odd brain zap few weeks after stopping mainly when i'm smoking bud, i get the odd strange tightness in my chest everynow and then but your body is good at repairing itself if given the right fuel.

 

[khatman]

Anyway, I think I'm going to finally pack this stuff in. What the fuck can I replace it with though? M1 is shite, MDMA is still scarce, most coke or speed is shit

That is my thoughts exactly.
If I could get decent MDMA I would never touch this shit again.
I know it must just be a matter of time before I get some nasty effects from this stuff, until now I have been lucky.

M1 for me isrubbish and makes me feel shit for a few days afterwards.

 

[monkyfunky]

maybe but just stop taking the shit, eat lots of heart/brain healthy food and you'll be okay. i've had getting on for 3 ounces of the shite, still get the odd brain zap few weeks after stopping mainly when i'm smoking bud, i get the odd strange tightness in my chest everynow and then but your body is good at repairing itself if given the right fuel.

The human body is excellent at repairing damage, but I got the impression that this valve thickening that is talked about would be permanent.

 

[B9]

Of course you're joking for effect B9. Haha. Of course you are. But just to reiterate

Yes you're right I defintely was

 

[fastandbulbous]

Have talked to someone (who continues to use ) who's experienced loss of feeling in hands and feet after a mephedrone binge. Any other drug causing those symptoms would be dropped almost instantly. Horribly addictive shit IMO

I'm surprised at hearing of so many people getting sent home without so much as a dose of valium in them though.

They're loathed to give abusable drugs to druggies, so only do if it's absolutely needed (when I ODed on 3-methoxyPCP, they only heard the PCP bit and whacked me full of diazepam)

 

[7zark7]

Have talked to someone (who continues to use ) who's experienced loss of feeling in hands and feet after a mephedrone binge. Any other drug causing those symptoms would be dropped almost instantly. Horribly addictive shit IMO

How long after the binge are they still getting these symptoms? And when they say loss of feeling, do they mean paresthesia - ie: experiencing pins and needles as well as numbness?


I'd hope these side-effects are reversible, but without discontinuing use, we won't find out!

 

[FutureFlash]

^ constant pain in your chest, as in all day, everyday? That's pretty concerning. Are you still using mephedrone?

I actually have a slight pain in my chest on the left side today. It's pretty minor, but not something I'd ever noticed before I did meph

Talked about this at the start of the thread..but, no I haven't had any mephedrone for like 5 weeks and am not going to ever again. I won't say no to methcathinone though.

The only thing I've ever got in bulk has been mephedrone, which is why that fucked me up lol. And it's disgustingly toxic :/

 

[sundayraver]

^ditto. The only reason I have been usig mephedrone is becasue I had rather a lot around.

I've had small ammounts of MDPV with a friend and it seems to have brought on the red skin. Not freaking out or anything but It's not pleasant to go funny colours. Makes me wondor if it even is vasoconstriction or some sort of skin problem. My friend who uses mephedroine daily has psorasis or whatever its called. He doesnt look healthy although he hasnt gone purple or anything. It's like little rashes that come and go, all over arms legs torso and back, lets hope it clears up into nothing over the next few days. Will keep you all updated

 

[monkyfunky]

Talked about this at the start of the thread..but, no I haven't had any mephedrone for like 5 weeks and am not going to ever again. I won't say no to methcathinone though.

The only thing I've ever got in bulk has been mephedrone, which is why that fucked me up lol. And it's disgustingly toxic :/

Just to be clear though. are you saying that you still have constant chest pain?

 

[MeDieViL]

^ditto. The only reason I have been usig mephedrone is becasue I had rather a lot around.

I've had small ammounts of MDPV with a friend and it seems to have brought on the red skin. Not freaking out or anything but It's not pleasant to go funny colours. Makes me wondor if it even is vasoconstriction or some sort of skin problem. My friend who uses mephedroine daily has siriasis or whatever its called. He doesnt look healthy although he hasnt gone purple or anything. It's like little rashes that come and go, all over arms legs torso and back, lets hope it clears up into nothing over the next few days. Will keep you all updated

I'm actually leaning toward the skin condition theory rather then the vasoconstriction theory, read my posts on this page:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=439578&page=24

I'm not sure about this tough, but it looks more plausible to me.

Especially because the symptons seem to be long lasting and sometimes get accompanied by rashes, also if you read the stories about vasoconstriction by DOx or bromo draganfly the paramedics are never like "everything looks fine".

Also because some ppl get the symptons after 600mg and other after 10 gram or something and others take 5 gram without problems or are addicted to meph without those side effects.

 

[Buddy122]

After a month or so break (and a red knee scare) from mephedrone I tried a small amount (approx. >75mg insufflated) and all my skin turned splotchy...noticeably so...like i pointed it out to my friends and they saw it as well. Although to clarify, it's not really my skin, it's the veins/bloodflow/etc underneath..like honeycombs beneath the dermis. I haven't done any since then, and have actually been doing only opiates recreationally lately. Anyone think that this splotchiness will occur every time i try mephedrone from now on?..or any stim for that matter?

 

[monkyfunky]

I'm actually leaning toward the skin condition theory rather then the vasoconstriction theory, read my posts on this page:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=439578&page=24

I'm not sure about this tough, but it looks more plausible to me.

Especially because the symptons seem to be long lasting and sometimes get accompanied by rashes, also if you read the stories about vasoconstriction by DOx or bromo draganfly the paramedics are never like "everything looks fine".

Also because some ppl get the symptons after 600mg and other after 10 gram or something and others take 5 gram without problems or are addicted to meph without those side effects.

I'm getting quite concerned how many people are getting permanent problems after relatively little mephedrone. I wish I had done a bit more "honest" research before taking this shite. I think I biased my research to try and justify taking it.

It's probably anxiety, but I am starting to wonder if I can feel a change in my heart since taking it. Luckily I haven't taken very much of the stuff in total, certainly under 10g. Unfortunately, the vast majority of that was in a 12 day period where I went a bit mad and seemed to throw caution to the wind.

 

[MeDieViL]

^ Does sound feasible actually.

I'm getting quite concerned how many people are getting permanent problems after relatively little mephedrone. I wish I had done a bit more "honest" research before taking this shite. I think I biased my research to try and justify taking it.

It's probably anxiety, but I am starting to wonder if I can feel a change in my heart since taking it. Luckily I haven't taken very much of the stuff in total, certainly under 10g. Unfortunately, the vast majority of that was in a 12 day period where I went a bit mad and seemed to throw caution to the wind.

If you dont notice any symptons i think you are fine, it seems that mephedrone causes severe symptons in ppl that are sensitive to it, the "insensitive ones" can take a load of mephedrone without any side effects.

The symptons are definatly person dependent and not dose dependent. (This doesnt mean you can start binging mephedrone because you didnt notice any bad side effects before, they can suddenly show up, so there really is no way to find out wheter you are insensitive to the effects).

 

[fastandbulbous]

The symptons are definatly person dependent and not dose dependent.

Give an 'insensitive' person enough and they'll develop the symptoms. The ones who are sensitive are only exhibiting what others will with higher doses (stimulant vasoconstriction is def dose sensitive, much like other common toxic symptoms). How much would cause the symptoms is the only variable

Luckily I haven't taken very much of the stuff in total, certainly under 10g. Unfortunately, the vast majority of that was in a 12 day period where I went a bit mad and seemed to throw caution to the wind.

If bad things haven't happened by now, they're not going to (as long as you don't ingest any more)

 

[monkyfunky]

If you dont notice any symptons i think you are fine, it seems that mephedrone causes severe symptons in ppl that are sensitive to it, the "insensitive ones" can take a load of mephedrone without any side effects.

The symptons are definatly person dependent and not dose dependent. (This doesnt mean you can start binging mephedrone because you didnt notice any bad side effects before, they can suddenly show up, so there really is no way to find out wheter you are insensitive to the effects).

I had a rough time the last time I did it, where my heart went mental, and I went into a bit of a panic. My heart was beating so hard and fast I half expected it to burst out of my chest. I have had slightly red knuckles, and maybe every-so-slightly blue veins in my knees, but nothing like the issues some people have reported.

I'm never touching the stuff again. I'm amazed I did in the first place as I'm a bit of a hypochondriac about even minor stuff. Guess it shows just how much emphasis I put on a short thrill. Pretty sad.

 

[MeDieViL]

Give an 'insensitive' person enough and they'll develop the symptoms. The ones who are sensitive are only exhibiting what others will with higher doses (stimulant vasoconstriction is def dose sensitive, much like other common toxic symptoms). How much would cause the symptoms is the only variable

There are ppl that haven taken 10 gram in an evening, or ppl that have been addicted for 6 months without any of these signs, it is possible they would develop those symptons if they take even more but imo it only causes severe side effects in a certain ammount of ppl (unlike bromo dragonfly for example wich will cause severe vasoconstriction in everyone that takes too much).

I could aswell be talking complete rubbish, but it seems more logical too me.

 

[MeDieViL]

I had a rough time the last time I did it, where my heart went mental, and I went into a bit of a panic. My heart was beating so hard and fast I half expected it to burst out of my chest. I have had slightly red knuckles, and maybe every-so-slightly blue veins in my knees, but nothing like the issues some people have reported.

I'm never touching the stuff again. I'm amazed I did in the first place as I'm a bit of a hypochondriac about even minor stuff. Guess it shows just how much emphasis I put on a short thrill. Pretty sad.

Yeah, better not touch it anymore

 

[fastandbulbous]

Monkeyfunky, don't beat yourself up about it, it's just human nature