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Mephedrone Megathread VII: Misunderstood Marvels & Malingering Metabolites

TJF said:
I was wondering what peoples experiences were with taking meph while on SSRIs? I'm on citalopram and still have a great time on meph, but I can't help wondering if I'm missing an aspect to the high. I can still get a good experience out of MDMA if I raise my dose high enough but the buzz is certainly lacking in some areas compared with my pre-citalopram experiences.

If anyone's taken meph while both on and off an SSRI, i'd be really interested to here about any subjective differences in their experiences.

Ta.
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I've taken meph in both circumstances. Tbh, I haven't noticed much difference in terms of effects, worked just as well while I was on citalopram as it has without. If there is anything in it, its too subtle to tell.

Although, I never had any luck with MDMA and SSRI's, now i've stopped i'm gutted I can't any! :(
 
So is this stuff not as bad as first made out? gruess with it being pure and abused it's gonna cause problems. i find i get cravings for it a good weeks after i've done it. not as bad as the initial cravings when coming down but just when it's out your system, your'e almost back to normal i get the urge to order more.
 
botfly said:
So is this stuff not as bad as first made out? gruess with it being pure and abused it's gonna cause problems.
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It doesn't cause more problems because it is pure. If they cut it with something inert it would cause more problems because people would just take more to get the same effect, then when they randomly got some that was pure or cut to a lesser extent they might overdose. This happens at the moment with heroin which is cut.

Also there is the danger that they might cut it with something that isn't inert that someone may react badly to.

The problems are partly caused by the fact the effect is so powerful and it is easy to get hold of - in the past it is generally the case that the more powerful drugs were harder to get without good contacts that take time to develop (proper acid, high quality MDMA , real coke) whereas the easiest to get gold of (pills, weed, heavily cut UK coke) don't generally produce quite as much of an effect.
 
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MrM said:
The problems are partly caused by the fact the effect is so powerful and it is easy to get hold of - in the past it is generally the case that the more powerful drugs were harder to get without good contacts that take time to develope (proper acid, high quality MDMA , real coke) whereas the easiest to get gold of (pills, weed, heavily cut UK coke) don't generally produce quite as much of an effect.
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I think this is definitely one of the main problems with meph, like if coke and mdma was 100% pure and 10-15 euro a gram you'd see alot more problems. People just dont know when to stop with meph.
 
gymstud said:
if i love mephedrone shoud i try MDPV
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The two are not at all similar. One is a seretonin based drug that makes you feel loved up, blissed out and really happy and high, the other is a dopamine based stimulant that will make you feel good and keep you awake for hours (or days if you re-dose).

The two are different enough that you might love one, the other, both or neither. There is no reason to think you'll like one because you like the other except that both are drugs.
 
I tried a M1 and Mephedrone Combo a few days ago. I dropped the M1 first and had a really nice come up and felt great. Empathy, happiness Etc. I then dropped and sniffed a bit of Meph and it took all the good feelings away from the M1, all the Empathy and deepness and replaced it with, meaningless, empty sweaty body rushes, and kind of ruined it. I have a feeling that Meph is an empathy killer when mixed with M1 and even MDMA.

If the report of the green rolexes is true, and they contain Meph. Then I can see this being true, as the Green rolexes where definatley missing all the deep happiness and Empathy. I know M1 and MDMA are very different, but I think the Meph just ruins these kind of substances, as opposed to enhancing them.
 
gymstud said:
if i love mephedrone shoud i try MDPV
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No, i love mephedrone but MDPV is a horrible substance for me, no other substance ever came close to the paranoia it gave me, the experience was horrible:! didnt like the feeling either.
 
MrM said:
The two are not at all similar. One is a seretonin based drug that makes you feel loved up, blissed out and really happy and high, the other is a dopamine based stimulant that will make you feel good and keep you awake for hours (or days if you re-dose).

The two are different enough that you might love one, the other, both or neither. There is no reason to think you'll like one because you like the other except that both are drugs.
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so mdpv is the lovey one??
 
gymstud said:
so mdpv is the lovey one??
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No it's the other way round.

Sorry i wasn't very clear (didn't specify). I kept the order same as your question in my answer so the lovey seratonin based one is mephedrone and the stimulating pervy one is mdpv.
 
What si the best way to recover from a little binge?

Ended up doing 1.5g, and I don't really have a tollerance. Just didnt seem to be getting me up or anything... Still should not have done that much, , just got carried way >.<
 
gardening at a rave all sounds fuckling suss to me, cant undrug myself either. Much of a catch 22. kwim.
 
FlippingTop said:
What si the best way to recover from a little binge?

Ended up doing 1.5g, and I don't really have a tollerance. Just didnt seem to be getting me up or anything... Still should not have done that much, , just got carried way >.<
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Sleep and food :)
/weed & benzos if you have
 
MrM said:
I can believe this.

Back in the day when i used to take pills (semi) regularly at the local techno club I always used to make sure i ate a proper dinner before hand, usually something like pasta to get the carbs in my body before dancing for hours on end.

Also i used to take something like a mars bar or two in my coat pocket so that i could eat one (or more likely, a bit of one) at the after party.

I still got comedowns but never so bad as some peoples, which i always put down to not drinking alcohol, not staying up for more than 24 hours and not going without food or sugar for the whole time i was high.
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You'd think that almost all drinks served at any establishment would be loaded with sugar. I mean beer generally has a good deal of carbs, all those alcopops certainly taste like they are full of sugar and many drinks are mixed with things like coke and redbull. Shouldn't drinking therefore improve the experience? Or at least have one improving effect.

Googling alcohol's vasodilation/vasoconstriction properties seems to suggest that it acts as a vasodilator in lower doses but as a vasoconstrictor at higher doeses. Anyone know what is considered high dosage?
 
Esoterik said:
You'd think that almost all drinks served at any establishment would be loaded with sugar. I mean beer generally has a good deal of carbs, all those alcopops certainly taste like they are full of sugar and many drinks are mixed with things like coke and redbull. Shouldn't drinking therefore improve the experience? Or at least have one improving effect.
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Eating or drinking sugar produces a quick peak in blood sugar levels and then after half an hour or so they drop back to where they were before or lower.

Carbohydrates (complex sugars) take longer to break down so you get a more even rise in blood sugar that lasts for hours instead of a bit less than an hour.

If you drank coca cola at the right rate you could, in theory, keep you blood sugar up all night, but carbohydrates work better for this as you don't have to keep 'redosing'.

I hadn't thought about beer though. Maybe the carbohydrates in that help a bit (does beer contain much carbohydrates?) but i imagine the alcohol doesn't help so much.
 
MeDieViL said:
No, i love mephedrone but MDPV is a horrible substance for me, no other substance ever came close to the paranoia it gave me, the experience was horrible:! didnt like the feeling either.
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Absolutely agreed.

Im dilusional on that stuff. Never, ever again.
 
Having been doing PV a LOT recently, then doing some meph you really notice how fucking insane the paranoia is on PV...

Think I will keep it to <10mg doses from now on, gives a perfect mental boost :)
 
MrM said:
Eating or drinking sugar produces a quick peak in blood sugar levels and then after half an hour or so they drop back to where they were before or lower.

Carbohydrates (complex sugars) take longer to break down so you get a more even rise in blood sugar that lasts for hours instead of a bit less than an hour.

If you drank coca cola at the right rate you could, in theory, keep you blood sugar up all night, but carbohydrates work better for this as you don't have to keep 'redosing'.

I hadn't thought about beer though. Maybe the carbohydrates in that help a bit (does beer contain much carbohydrates?) but i imagine the alcohol doesn't help so much.
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Thanks for the info. Did some more browsing and it seems that many sources suggest alcohol has a decreasing effect on blood sugar, inhibiting glucose production in the liver.
 
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