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Mephedrone Addiction

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Best wish's, i know how you feel. I couldnt sleep because there was meph nearby, now a third sleepless night in a row is sure to ensue :/
 
Link_S said:
Best wish's, i know how you feel. I couldnt sleep because there was meph nearby, now a third sleepless night in a row is sure to ensue :/
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Why though? I'm sorry mate, but you're an idiot. If you are aware that it's nearby, and that if it is nearby, you need to throw it away. IT'S JUST A BIT OF MONEY. Why sacrifice your health for pennies? Your health is priceless.
 
My mind and body are on autopilot, by 'because' nearby i mean i tried for 3 hours to sleep, then gave up and had some mephedrone to make me feel better.

Believe me i know i'm an idiot, everything i do with regards to meph is stupid and i post it on here so other people can marvel at how this idiot cant break a psychological cycle of abuse of a dangerous drug that should be easy. I feel weak, i feel stupid, and if it wasn't for those that i'd leave behind right now i'd welcome the meph (or anything) to kill me
 
To me link dude, it sounds like you have some serious emotional issues, not drug issues. You're using the drugs to escape from those problems. I was the same, I used to smoke weed to avoid going to uni and doing my work, now I've been kicked out.

It takes balls dude, to admit having a problem, now you need to ask yourself why have I got this problem? Why are you doing this to yourself? You don't want to die, so stop thinking stupid like that, be a man about it. Have confidence in yourself and things will become easier. I feel confident enough to say you are not a stupid individual, just a misguided one.


Take it easy.<3
 
^I used death to try and convey my frustration, sorry if you misunderstood i'm so frustrated i could kill myself, but i never would, life is worth living even if its just for the next smile imo :)

But of course your right, i found some posts from a few months back where i had a benzo habit, trying to hide behind it again, a few of my issues which might be small compared to what some have to deal with
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=7571246&postcount=295
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=7571664&postcount=297
From benzo to meph, also i was doing meph daily then & didnt see it as an addiction, i was more focused on the valium

God i feel like im just posting this to get sympathy, and maybe i am i dont know, thanks for your kind words hh
 
phillop said:
I recieved physical withdrawal symptoms in that I would get "electric zaps" up my muscles, behind my eyes, headaches, for 1-3 days when having not used mephedrone. I think that combining coming off an SSRI (which can produce brain zaps in itself if stopped cold turkey) while using mephedrone (also can cause zaps if abused) is not the best of ideas. They are truly horrible, and often happen just as you are literally about to loose consciousness and fall asleep in the hypnagogic stage. This implies that they are due to some alteration in serotonin receptors of some kind, which are thought to regulate sleep patterns.

Swim got the Zaps really badly after abusing MDMA too. Other than this the side effects remained laregly psychological and had all the markings as a psychological addiction.
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holy shit!! so thats what it was

i must admit i had a few meph binges but the last one was really worst. i took 9 grams in 72 hrs...the thing is...when i start i just CANT stop. no matter how bad it is...and despite knowign how bad it is i still couldnt stop.

i really tought sth was damaged becouse i had those electric zaps just when i was falling asleep.
 
I dont think zaps are really to do with withdrawal as much as they are just side effects of abusing a serotonergic drug, withdrawal is a misleading term here.
 
Wow I can't believe how much of a problem this drug is to some people. I have a mate who's just bought 10 grams of the stuff as he tried it a while ago and decided he liked it. I'm concerned he's going to start caining it as he has a habbit of hoovering up drugs pretty quickly
 
the most uncomfortable part of the comedown are the zaps, it's like a micro fit or something, i could'nt imgaine niging for longer than a a few days and getting them, they get more powerful the longer u take meph. i'd suggest smoking some weed and drinking alcoholf if you come off it and want some sleep.
 
In all honesty I can understand why. The rush/empathy you get from meph is one of the best feelings of any RC or drugs I have tried. That plus redosing actually works, when it comes to the stage with MDMA after maybe 500-700mg it simply will not. And of course its very cheap in comparison to coke or MDMA crystals.

It is a good drug if you can avoid going OTT. But it is pretty fiendish and people who are fiends anyway are obviously going to find it fiendish. I think bulk buy of over 5-10g of this stuff has to be a bad idea.. And it being so cheap, thats exactly whats happening. I bet if coke was as cheap everyone would be bulk buying and going overboard too. Theres defo some funny side effects though. To be hinest I enjoed the head on and probably still would take it, but everyday or every week with this stuff is not a sensible option.
 
botfly said:
the most uncomfortable part of the comedown are the zaps, it's like a micro fit or something, i could'nt imgaine niging for longer than a a few days and getting them, they get more powerful the longer u take meph. i'd suggest smoking some weed and drinking alcoholf if you come off it and want some sleep.
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That's the description I was looking for "zaps". Very, very weird indeed.
 
My final run-in with Seroxat was when I stopped taking a high dose abruptly cos it had made me a zombie. Unfortunately my timing was a lil awry cos I did it at the same time as (briefly) withdrawing from a largish (1g+ daily) heroin habit. In my ignorance I took a whole pack of Nytol (diphenhydramine) to try to sleep through the worst of it. Yeah. Just as much fun as it sounds and then some 8(8o:|
 
I've been getting similar feeling effects throughout my entire body :!

And I haven't touched the drone since Saturday either.. (And not for the huge foreseeable future either)
 
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Wow, massive sympathies to those who've had the brain zaps without knowing what they were. That must be terrifying - I was lucky to have seen the term and thread before (after my first serious meph binge). Unlucky to have them for over a week though.
They're one of the the least uncomfortable parts for me though - I am better at tolerating physical pain (or discomfort I guess) than mental pain.

Evad said:
I dont think zaps are really to do with withdrawal as much as they are just side effects of abusing a serotonergic drug, withdrawal is a misleading term here.
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I agree, based on some people getting zaps after 1 night on MDMA.

I'm now convinced that the other effects I suffer are all down to low dopamine. Google it and see!

Sorry my last post was so short, and implied things were much worse than they actually are. We are both doing ok.... as in we're not dead and still stopping Friday. Feeling, as mugabe puts it, "little bit wee little bit woo" (never heard that before and find it very very cute).
Meph has become increasingly unpredictable since I admitted it was an addiction. I guess because now it's a drug that I don't really want to take, yet really really do, it messes with my head.
It's really horrible sometimes -- feeling edgy, jumpy, miserable, multiplied by meph. Other times it's fairly nice. Only when I'm with mugabe (chatting, kissing, cuddling, obvious conclusion-ing) do I feel the old euphoria.
Now, I think I read that anticipation of sex causes an increase in dopamine productions. But then, so does love <3<3


Oh yeh -- coke stops meph fiending. Obviously all meph addicts should substitute cocaine! Then all the problems are solved! Make sure you bulk buy so it's cheap! =D=D
 
Yeah, the brain zaps I noticed a lot with serotonergic neurotoxins.. Had it bad with MDMA, MDA and meth.

I'm going to be worried a lot about this one until I hear some strong evidence against neurotoxicity for both dopaminergic and serotonergic neurons. I really can't caution people enough about this compound. :(

Shambles said:
It affects dopamine more than serotonin I think (may be mistaken but it certainly has a strong dopaminegic action) which would go some considerable way to explain the strong fiending it produces.
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It's hard to say exactly. 4-Methylamphetamine is about an equipotent releaser of all three monoamines, while amphetamine is very selective for only DA and NE. The n-methylation of an amphetamine/cathinone usually increases its ability to release serotonin (and to a lesser extent dopamine and norepinephrine; the basicity of the secondary amine may somehow be important to the mechanism of release). Methcathinone is selective for DA/NE over 5HT. If I were to guess I'd say the amount of serotonin release would be very high, higher than methamphetamine or methcathinone and similar to MDMA. There will be no specific 5HT2A or 5HT2C agonism that creates psychedelic effects like you would get with MDMA from the metabolite MDA, however.
 
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