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Bluelighter
?? Then how do you explain the sweet candy-like taste that micro-dots have??
A different taste, suggests a different chemical!!
A different taste, suggests a different chemical!!
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MEGAMIX-Acid/LSD Newbie Questions
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MattPD
Bluelight Crew
Or sugar, the above posters are completely right, and if you would do even the most basic of research you would realize this.
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specialspack
Bluelighter
sugar, binding agents, whatever. even in a microdot, the the amount of LSD will be vanishingly small compared to whatever the pill is made off. does LSD even have a taste? i dont know.. cant say i've ever "tasted" it.
the bottom line is there are few chemicals that would fit into a dot and have an active dose. some exotics like 5-me-AMT, DOB, etc might (im not even sure how much a dot weighs.. im guessing less than 50mg) or even 2C-B. but you're very unlikely to find such things... they would certainly be advertised as such and would be at a premium. you cant categorically rule out something like 5-meo-amt, which has been found in blotters i believe. or DOM, like MGS mentioned.
to answer your other questions -
a) takes longer to work. probably because the dot has to dissolve in your stomach, instead of being absorbed straight off the paper into your mouth
b) have a totally different trip to LSD. set and setting, my friend. as many people will attest to, the same amount of the same known substance can produce radically different effects depending on where you are, how you're feeling and your internal brain and body chemistry. there's also the major factor of the placebo effect. if you take something that you believe to be x, you're much more likely to have a different experience
c) vomiting. again, lots of reasons. LSD can cause nausea, and depending on what you've eaten etc you may be more likely to throw up.
so before you go calling people "morons" do your own research. you obviously have no clue about mescaline and its doseage.
perphaps i didnt quite need to go to such lengths... but im bored..
the bottom line is there are few chemicals that would fit into a dot and have an active dose. some exotics like 5-me-AMT, DOB, etc might (im not even sure how much a dot weighs.. im guessing less than 50mg) or even 2C-B. but you're very unlikely to find such things... they would certainly be advertised as such and would be at a premium. you cant categorically rule out something like 5-meo-amt, which has been found in blotters i believe. or DOM, like MGS mentioned.
to answer your other questions -
a) takes longer to work. probably because the dot has to dissolve in your stomach, instead of being absorbed straight off the paper into your mouth
b) have a totally different trip to LSD. set and setting, my friend. as many people will attest to, the same amount of the same known substance can produce radically different effects depending on where you are, how you're feeling and your internal brain and body chemistry. there's also the major factor of the placebo effect. if you take something that you believe to be x, you're much more likely to have a different experience
c) vomiting. again, lots of reasons. LSD can cause nausea, and depending on what you've eaten etc you may be more likely to throw up.
so before you go calling people "morons" do your own research. you obviously have no clue about mescaline and its doseage.
perphaps i didnt quite need to go to such lengths... but im bored..
blahblahblah
Bluelighter
lsd
The good thing about microdots is that they are snortable. Most micros tend to be weak and you have to down quite a few to get off good.
The good thing about microdots is that they are snortable. Most micros tend to be weak and you have to down quite a few to get off good.
eternalcrux
Bluelighter
blahblahblah said:
So if you had a microdot of lsd you could feel effects from snorting?
blahblahblah
Bluelighter
Possible...
In my run-ins with microdots 4-6 is usually what would get me going, I have not ran into a microdot where only 1 was needed to be flipped to the gills. Why? got me...
In my run-ins with microdots 4-6 is usually what would get me going, I have not ran into a microdot where only 1 was needed to be flipped to the gills. Why? got me...
Flexistentialist
Bluelight Crew
Cleaner Futures said:
No microdot I've had tastes like anything. They've all been LSD without question.
Like I said earlier, if you were getting symptoms like you described, maybe it was 5-MeO-AMT.
uNivErSaL
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I had a microdot and I snorted it. Like it was said no microdot is mescaline. I found the trip different than blotter acid; however, I was told it was mescaline, upon re-examination it is my opinion what I had was LSD. I was also alone, so that drastically affected the trip. I remember rolling around on the floor thinking I was stirring my brain. Heh.
To answer the earlier question about how microdots look, well they are very tiny little spheres of a resin type substance.
Basicaly if you look at and think, fucking hell thats way too small to do anything then its a microdot.
Basicaly if you look at and think, fucking hell thats way too small to do anything then its a microdot.
lsd questions
i have a few questions about acid. well..here they go. if a person has a history of schizophrenia like 3 generations back, should he automatically abstain from using lsd? or..does it more depend on his personality, and how stable an individual he is currently? also, will sleeping while during the trip, promote more severe flashbacks? and if so, will sleeping near the end, while the trip tapers off, be okay...or any better? also...if the acid's on blotter paper, does it just melt in your mouth, or do you swallow it...or...just keep in your mouth for a while or what? thanks
the schiz. question was for my friend. he is a strong person, personality wise. but i'm going to be doing some lsd soon. 2 hits probably...taken at around 445 pm..you think that's a good time? well...sorry for the hellacious amount of questions, i'm currently searching for the answers on various sites, but your input would help alot. thanks
i have a few questions about acid. well..here they go. if a person has a history of schizophrenia like 3 generations back, should he automatically abstain from using lsd? or..does it more depend on his personality, and how stable an individual he is currently? also, will sleeping while during the trip, promote more severe flashbacks? and if so, will sleeping near the end, while the trip tapers off, be okay...or any better? also...if the acid's on blotter paper, does it just melt in your mouth, or do you swallow it...or...just keep in your mouth for a while or what? thanks
the schiz. question was for my friend. he is a strong person, personality wise. but i'm going to be doing some lsd soon. 2 hits probably...taken at around 445 pm..you think that's a good time? well...sorry for the hellacious amount of questions, i'm currently searching for the answers on various sites, but your input would help alot. thanks
I don't think it is possible to sleep during an lsd trip, I don't know anyone who has been able to. I've never been able to sleep untill at least 24 hours after dropping. I usually let the blotter sit in my mouth for appx. 10 minutes then swallow it, but be careful, you could have a bad chemical reaction in your mouth, this happened to me once.
As far as the schizophrenia, I don't have any input.
As far as the schizophrenia, I don't have any input.
toolazy2think
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id rather be safe then sorry, plenty of ppl with normal family histories have been fucked up by acid, personally, i wouldnt do it. but to everyone his own.
anarchistgirl
Bluelighter
I'd make sure to trip in a comfortable enviroment. If you're in an uncomfortable enviroment,you're more prone to a bad trip, and if you have a bad trip, you're more likely to be severely fucked.
It's very hard to sleep on an acid trip, you wont want to. 4:45 is good, just make sure there's no one not drug-friendly around a little after that, because you'll be frying for a number of hours. It wont start to taper til at least 11. And if you do manage to catch a few z's, i dont think it effects flashbacks. Might make it a bit easier to see trails and stuff, but thats it.
It's very hard to sleep on an acid trip, you wont want to. 4:45 is good, just make sure there's no one not drug-friendly around a little after that, because you'll be frying for a number of hours. It wont start to taper til at least 11. And if you do manage to catch a few z's, i dont think it effects flashbacks. Might make it a bit easier to see trails and stuff, but thats it.
what do most people consider a good environment for tripping? when i've done other drugs like salvia and shrooms, i spent part of the time outside walking around with some friends and sometime inside, laying down and listening to some good music. you think that's a good environment? and...if tracers would be more prominent if you slept, how many days you think they would last? only a few? thanks
The Drummer
Bluelighter
i would say less than a day if any.
i have never felt any kind of hangover from lsd,
ever, not once
very few people ever have an acid flashback
i have never felt any kind of hangover from lsd,
ever, not once
very few people ever have an acid flashback
MistaSmokalot
Bluelighter
Re: lsd questions
The person shouldn't refrain from using just because he knows of skitzo in his family, he should however be very cautious, and dose accordingly...If he feels weird on the drug, dosen't know whats going on, not liking it, maybe he should refrain then. He should try it though, I know many ppl wit history of skitz and they drop acid, and are fine. It depends.
Sleeping (if you can) during the trip would not cause any bad effects to your body, there's nothing your body isn't doing sleeping that it isn't doing when you are up and about, you still move and talk...so no, it will not promote flashbacks..and once you are on acid you will know sleeping is not in your list of fun. This is what I find is different from mushrooms and acid, mushrooms make me drowsy, acid makes me speedy.
As for the blotter question, I dont swallow it, i let it tamper away in my mouth, either under my tounge or on it, It dosen't matter as long as it has been in their for a minute, one of my buddies a while back put a blotter in his mouth then thought about it and said fuck acid, and spat the blotter out, and he was hallucinating within the hour
Acid and mushroom environments are the same. if you like one on mushrooms, you probably will like it on acid as well.
have fun!
peace.
mmmpie said:
The person shouldn't refrain from using just because he knows of skitzo in his family, he should however be very cautious, and dose accordingly...If he feels weird on the drug, dosen't know whats going on, not liking it, maybe he should refrain then. He should try it though, I know many ppl wit history of skitz and they drop acid, and are fine. It depends.
Sleeping (if you can) during the trip would not cause any bad effects to your body, there's nothing your body isn't doing sleeping that it isn't doing when you are up and about, you still move and talk...so no, it will not promote flashbacks..and once you are on acid you will know sleeping is not in your list of fun. This is what I find is different from mushrooms and acid, mushrooms make me drowsy, acid makes me speedy.
As for the blotter question, I dont swallow it, i let it tamper away in my mouth, either under my tounge or on it, It dosen't matter as long as it has been in their for a minute, one of my buddies a while back put a blotter in his mouth then thought about it and said fuck acid, and spat the blotter out, and he was hallucinating within the hour
Acid and mushroom environments are the same. if you like one on mushrooms, you probably will like it on acid as well.
have fun!
peace.
anarchistgirl
Bluelighter
I'd start the trip in either his or your house though. Just so that he knows exactly where everything is. And what everything is. And be in the house for the peak. Walk around, but when it starts to get really strong, head back to the house so that he doesn't freak out being outside.
Rather than going skitzo, he might be at risk for HPPD, which is similar to Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. HPPD is a lot more common than going insane/skitzo.
Rather than going skitzo, he might be at risk for HPPD, which is similar to Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. HPPD is a lot more common than going insane/skitzo.
The Drummer said:
In fact, I've drunk alcohol and smoked weed during my acid trips. The quality of weed experiences has changed somewhat, but the funniest thing is that now I get psychedelic effects from alcohol! ;-) The most pronounced is visual patterning in dark places. Not that I really care, but I wonder what else has changed in me.
MattPD
Bluelight Crew
The likelihood of your friend expieriencing schizophrenia could be as high as 50% if it has been in his family (well, it really depends on where in his family it was, grandparents? cousins?). Certain things will affect whether or not it manifests in his lifetime. These things are known as environmental effects.
By using LSD your friend could be increasing his risk for developing schizophrenia later in life.
If there is a history of mental illness in his family I would strongly reccomend against taking any psychedelics. Schizophrenia, even if has not manifested in severeal generations is still likely to be in his system (well, his genes) waiting for some environmental cause to trigger it.
This is definetly not something to take lightly.
M
By using LSD your friend could be increasing his risk for developing schizophrenia later in life.
If there is a history of mental illness in his family I would strongly reccomend against taking any psychedelics. Schizophrenia, even if has not manifested in severeal generations is still likely to be in his system (well, his genes) waiting for some environmental cause to trigger it.
This is definetly not something to take lightly.
M