I noticed this particularly in the phenylacetylindoles like 250 and 203 where no naphthalene ring is present. Otherwise, you sometimes get a smell reminiscent of mothballs? but that other smell you are referring to is that of indole! it is present in many of the JWH and AM-series, but also in excrement. This explains why many people say that DMT smells like 'shit', as Indole is the structural backbone of DMT and other tryptamines.Smoked some for the first time last night. Anyone else thought the smell is a bit reminiscent of DMT?
That last bit confused me, I'm not sure how it could be carcinogenic if it's not messing with DNA in some way?There was a study done on JWH-015, not JWH-018, which showed that there is an epoxide intermediate that is created during the metabolism of the compound in rats or mice. There was no study done on the carcinogenicity of JWH-015 or the epoxide intermediate, nor is the epoxide likely to exist within an animal's cells for any considerable amount of time. There's also no evidence that JWH-018 shares metabolites with JWH-018. There was simply speculation here on Bluelight that the epoxide intermediate metabolite of JWH-015 might be carcinogenic. Some people took that and ran with it all the way to "JWH-018 causes cancer."
The study I am thinking of doesn't mention cancer or DNA at all I don't believe
I'm not trying to start a panic among jwh users, but that naphthalene ring gets metabolized into epoxides.
Epoxides are best known for their use in superglues. This is not a good thing to smoke.
Yes, cymbalta has one too, but you're not usually smoking duloxetine, are you?
It's pretty clear you haven't researched this at all. It's like the number one effect next to the actual stone.
The fast Heartbeat effect just makes itself apparent after smoking the JWH's for awhile.
To me the jwh's just seem like you take a normal 2 hour weed high and squashed it together into a more potent, but shorter acting fat little jwh high. Thats what i don't like about it, (even though i continue to use it due to DT's) the first 20 minutes where you're the highest you just want it to be a little less potent, and then after the peak you just want it to be a little more potent; so you rinse and repeat.
Deep breathing techniques are very commonly employed nowaydays for me
I've dranken kava-kava because it is a light natural sedative and relaxant. To me it seems like an all natural valium, with even better effects (if done right, look up recipes).
when I have combined Kava-Kava with jwh by drinking the kava first and then lighting up the jwh,
The anxiety/heartbeat becomes almost non-existant.
Its pretty cool really; I can take as big of a pure powder jwh toke as i want and actually enjoy the high to it's full extent. Highly recommended