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villian said:
good to see you mgs

i was fairly impressed with them at first, but after a bit of use I definitely prefer cannabis. they are interesting chemicals, but they seem sort of empty to me, like they are missing something. i do enjoy that they will get me higher then cannabis has in years, but for me they could never replace it.

give 250 a try when you get a chance it is a bit more psychedelic then the others
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Can't imagine it getting MORE psychedelic than what the 18 was doing last night.
 
Hey mgs, long time no see. It does remind me of "some" strains of pot also, although I haven't any of those for a while. Some of those strains tend to give some people anxiety too. OTOH, I wouldn't say I couldn't distinguish them, if given blind. The duration differences are obvious, but something else is also distinctly missing. This is especially apparent when it's used in combination with psychedelics.
 
villian said:
good to see you mgs

i was fairly impressed with them at first, but after a bit of use I definitely prefer cannabis. they are interesting chemicals, but they seem sort of empty to me, like they are missing something. i do enjoy that they will get me higher then cannabis has in years, but for me they could never replace it.

give 250 a try when you get a chance it is a bit more psychedelic then the others
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I concur completely about them seeming empty. I enjoy cannabis, especially for what I perceive to be its spiritual presence. This benefits me especially during trips on psychedelic synthetics.

Of course, this is a purely subjective assessment, but I have never tried a "perfect extract" of cannabis plant to say whether the chemistry makes a difference.

I'm suspicious that the "drug delivery" system (i.e., the fact that the cannabinoids must be liberated from the highly-structured cannabis plant matter rather than vaporized straight from foil or glass) makes a notable difference too.
 
One reason I like jwh073 is that my girlfriend gets super-sexed after smoking it.

High and horny, what's not to love?
 
Really, if you're looking for psychedelic, give oral JWH a shot. I've had ENORMOUS success with 200mg of JWH-018 and 50mg 250 (I have a decent tolerance, smoke ~40mg).

The trip can be a bit edgy/speedy like coming up on good cid or possibly even the waviness of MDXX, but if you are well versed in tripping or can remind yourself "this high will eventually go away," it's rather enjoyable.


Full blown OEVs and dynamic CEVs, expanded headspace, 5-6 hour duration. I go orally when I'm looking for 4-5 hours of something intense, and smoked when I'm blending in with my stoner buddies.

Oral - -018
+No smoking
+ 5-8x longer duration
+ 2-3 hour peak
- 1-3 hour come up, varies, unsure why
- Very Edgy, if you're not able to handle psychs, I don't suggest large doses
- Requires 2.5x your normal vaped/smoked dosage to feel effects typically.

Smoked - -018
+ Anywhere from 2-50mg, a gram lasts a long ass time. (Tolerance factor here)
+ Extremely fast come up, mimics a rush that weed cannot provide
+ No Decipherable ceiling
- Short duration
- Smoking an RC
 
morninggloryseed said:
Wow, I like these.

I was given JWH-73 a couple of years ago, but was always told that I only needed 1mg or so. I never took enough, and wrote it off as 'junk.'

Yesterday I decided to look at it again, weighed out 25mg and....was totally blown away. It reminded me of some strains of pot. Fully stoned. I can't say it was better or worse....because some strains of pot are mind-blowing and some aren't.

Then later in the day, my order of JWH-18 arrived. I waited until I was fully down, then measured out 3mg and vaporized it. I felt it nearly instantly, and laid down on my couch and had the most full and intense cannabis high I have had in years. Totally psychedelic, but without a hint of fear. It must have lasted 2 hours. I was in love.

I took the same amount again before bed, and went right to sleep.

If you had told me I was smoking pot, I would have never known it was a synthetic indole.

As I said, some strains of pot are stellar and mind-blowing, others are not.

JWH-18 and JWH-73 can totally replace most cannabis strains for me. There are a few cannabis strains I have had that are better...but the psychedelic highs I had from JWH-18 yesterday were among my most intense cannabis highs ever.

I love the stuff, and can't wait to try others.
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dude you totally just made me want to try synthetic weed now
 
Jwh-018 is nice, but I'm looking to try some of the others now. The only ones I've tried are jwh-018 and -073. To everyone that's tried more than these, which are your favorites? I'm really not sure where to go from here. I'm more interested in indica-type highs than sativa, as smoking 018 relentlessly for nearly a year has worn that pleasure down a bit.
 
Weed Blended with JHW-X

I live in a country where the weed THC level is about 2-4% and
weed is very cheap as well.

Having smoked weed for over 20 years now, I need to smoke quite
alot to get a good buzz.

Would blending this weed with JWH compounds produce a stronger
or even better high?

Has anybody experienced this sort of blend before?

The assumption here is that the right quantity of a JWH compound
would be added to the weed
 
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Well I have not tried this but since many JHW-X compounds tend to be at least as active as THC I would imagine it would significantly intensify the high. The key however would be choosing the correct compound, and although u say the assumption is that the correct amount is added dosage would be difficult because synthetic cannabinoids tend to be designed for oral consumption not smoking. The danger would be that many JWH-X compounds like JWH-108 can produce intense anxiety, and even seizures in high doses. Other ones like JHW-073 have a peak dosage after which point it would inhibit is own activity and the activity of THC, but in theory that would definately work.
 
Has anyone ever heard of breathing problems or going into a coma with pure Jwh-018 or in their own blends?

I'll never touch the Spice or K2 stuff, it sounds horrible after seeing what some people have posted. I have managed to get some from a company called shibby shack and they seem to have a legit blend (no longer in business though, shame 'cause they sold it real cheap).I believe they use herbs that don't make you nearly die.

So, is it bad to smoke it, if you are confident the herbs themselves won't kill you?
 
Yes, blending in a JWH should make the weed potent as hell. Just make sure that you figure out a way to distribute the JWH evenly on the plant matter (those series chemicals aren't water soluble). And, yeah, don't push to ridiculous dosages, as people run into problems then.

ebola
 
Vapir One V.5 + JWH-xxx

So I recently recieved my vape and have been having troubling gaping my -018,073, and -250.
It seems like i am unable to get the herbs and chemicals to completely vaporize or even burn, and I regularly use it between 378-400 degrees without the herbs becmig completely spent. I've used the spa mask(gas mask) balloons and whips with the synthetics without much success.
Any pointers or explanations for me? Is there a link with the boiling points for the common jwh-xxx substances?

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entheo said:
So I recently recieved my vape and have been having troubling gaping my -018,073, and -250.
It seems like i am unable to get the herbs and chemicals to completely vaporize or even burn, and I regularly use it between 378-400 degrees without the herbs becmig completely spent. I've used the spa mask(gas mask) balloons and whips with the synthetics without much success.
Any pointers or explanations for me? Is there a link with the boiling points for the common jwh-xxx substances?

Mods: please feel free to move this thread wherever you see most fit.
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I never have had great success with vaping JWH, go figure. Smoked is the best, making your own blends is the way to go 100% with this stuff. A little more costly but you end up getting an ounce of really, really potent shit with only 2 grams. really cost effective.

as for boiling points, just google whatever substance you want and add MSDS:

like for JWH-018
 
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