[Mega]Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion

[eebill]

No asking for sources, it's against the BLUA. - p_c

 

[Thanatos]

Here's another new one that just showed up on the scene, (4-methoxyphenyl)(1-pentyl-1H-indol-3-yl)methanone a.k.a. RCS-4.

(image is my own because I couldn't find one online without a price plastered over it)

I like that there's no naphthalene ring, and I hope it turns out to be a good one for that reason if nothing else. On the other hand, though, this appears to have hit the market before the literature, so there's nothing to go by other than comparing it to other cannabinoids that are already out there and waiting for the trip reports to start coming in. Any thoughts?

Any updates?

 

[freak1c]

Yes the stuffs okay if you only smoke it once in a while and in small doses, I find that smoking it everyday isn't good because it just makes me feel weird and not in a good way and definitely gives me heart palpitations after smoking it a while, and although I was smoking it everyday I was only taking small hits, just enough to get buzzed, like every hour or so. I still have some and just smoked a little but I'm gonna toss the remainder. A lot of people say people who are using it everyday are stupid but that's lame because it IS being used as a substitute for marijuana by people and I don't know anybody who only smokes marijuana once in a while, me and all the heads I know are or in the case of myself "were" daily marijuana users, most smokers probably are, people are just using as a substitute for marijuana so of course they're smoking it like marijuana, it's being marketed as a marijuana substitute so of course they are smoking it as such and it just falls short when considering all the side effects, can't say people are stupid for smoking it like marijuana. Some people may be into this " research chemical " subculture or whatever it is, and only do this stuff every once in a while like they were taking a trip on acid or something but I think these research chemical people are very strange and pretty lame actually, and I'm sorry but this stuff really isn't all that. I found it very useful for quitting marijuana though, getting through those first few days or that first week, no cravings at all. All it really does is put me to sleep now so it's good for if you can't sleep, I can never sleep when running out of marijuana or for other reasons so it helped with that too. It feels just like a sedative to me and puts me right to sleep, kinda like a half awake half asleep kinda deal till I fall completely asleep, and it gives me vivid dreams every single night no doubt about it but that may the damiana and or catnip in the blend I've been smoking because the other blend with different herbs didn't really do that. I'm just going to smoke damiana from now on and just use it for insomnia. I wish I could just smoke marijuana but I can't risk my job and am tired of carrying around a bottle of synthetic piss and going through the stress of using it, that's what I used to do to get over on the pee pee police, after I move back to california and get with a smaller company and know some of the drivers and get a heads up on the random tests coming up I'll probably start smoking again, marijuana, not this crap.

 

[Beerios]

Any updates?

Well, there should be some RCS-4 waiting for me when I get home tonight, according to tracking. I'll post my impressions of it as soon as I get a chance, but probably not a full trip report till I've given it a few more tries to get a better idea.

 

[Chainer]

jwh does seem to have stimulant like properties to me, so frequent use resulting in stimulant abuse symptoms would not entirely surprise me.

all things in moderation

 

[Volcano]

I don't seem to have any of the crazy stories some people do when smoking the blends

I just feel "high" and on occasion I have what I've termed "heart anxiety" (just a weird feeling near my heart, not pain or pressure, just kinda like what you feel when you feel anxious)

The way I deal with the heart anxiety is just to smoke less. I'd usually smoke a whole joint of real pot but with these blends I smoke like a half a joint.

I know there's no price talk but I'm getting real foil sealed blends for CHEAP (don't PM me, there's no sourcing discussion either) so FOR ME it's easier for ME to smoke premade foil-sealed blends than make my own blend.

 

[ghost.d0wn]

I don't seem to have any of the crazy stories some people do when smoking the blends

I just feel "high" and on occasion I have what I've termed "heart anxiety" (just a weird feeling near my heart, not pain or pressure, just kinda like what you feel when you feel anxious)

The way I deal with the heart anxiety is just to smoke less. I'd usually smoke a whole joint of real pot but with these blends I smoke like a half a joint.

I know there's no price talk but I'm getting real foil sealed blends for CHEAP (don't PM me, there's no sourcing discussion either) so FOR ME it's easier for ME to smoke premade foil-sealed blends than make my own blend.

yo volcano wat is ur thotes on jwh vs vaping popular strains?

 

[Volcano]

I haven't put anything with JWH in my Volcano. It's retired until I get a career.

I only quit to get a job. My U/E runs out in a couple months.

 

[ghost.d0wn]

so u think jwh matches potency of medical marijuana or seedless pot?

 

[Basic Base]

NYCSD....uggg..I hate probation

 

[Bupe]

So I got some herbs to make a blend with JWH-250. I don't have any pure acetone, anyone know where I could find some locally? Duane Reade had their store brand of nail pollish remover that said "100% pure acetone" or something then I looked on the back and it has denatonium in it which makes it bitter...

Would vodka or higher proof alcohol work? I'll just dry mix small amounts for now...

edit: also I just found a bottle of 70% iso alcohol. On the label it says "Active Ingredient: iso alcohol" and "Inactive ingredient: water" and nothing else. Think that will be safe/good to use?

 

[Basic Base]

I Use 30-45g Damania Leaf, (sticks pulled)
1g (jwh-018)
2-3 oz acetone at most. I want the majority pretty moist when I'm done spraying.
I use larger stainless steel bowl b/c you can see where if you miss it dries and leaves a residue behind on the side of the bowl. Spray onto leaf in middle, avoid hitting the edges. Place 4-5 sprays clockwise (or visa-verse), mix the sprayed leaf by tossing the damn bowl likes its a salad boy! DO until mixture is totally sprayed and gone (as much as yoiu can). Dry for a while in bowl before spreading to a large rectangular cooking Pyrex dish. If it's still too moist some will seep onto dish, and then evaporate. I use a 4'Deskfan to aid in the process.
2-3 Hours total after practice. You can use more/less acetone. Less means your have a better chance of hot spots that are unevenly dosed b/c your only spray 5 times. Your should go at least 12-24 hrs due to the acetone.

 

[rydogg]

Hey guys, I don't post very often, simply browse around, as I usually have no questions or suggestions, but I'm going into an area where I've never been before, which is research chemicals.


In a day or two I'm going to receive a gram of JWH-018, and was wondering what was the best method of ingesting it, and dosing it

smoke it like you would smoke oxy or herion using tin foil a lighter and a straw that shit will have you on your ass

 

[rydogg]

So I got some herbs to make a blend with JWH-250. I don't have any pure acetone, anyone know where I could find some locally? Duane Reade had their store brand of nail pollish remover that said "100% pure acetone" or something then I looked on the back and it has denatonium in it which makes it bitter...

Would vodka or higher proof alcohol work? I'll just dry mix small amounts for now...

edit: also I just found a bottle of 70% iso alcohol. On the label it says "Active Ingredient: iso alcohol" and "Inactive ingredient: water" and nothing else. Think that will be safe/good to use?

Whats the difference between all the jwhs I know jwh-018 is found in k2 but what about jwh-250 how is it different? I live in illinois they made jwh-018 illegal but would that go for all the jwhs?

 

[Chainer]

merged several syth threads.

RyDogg, read through the thread instead of asking questions answered here already.

 

[minnesotatreeguy]

i'm not sure which i'm smoking i just buy the stuff at the tobbacco shop and it seems to do the trick it is very expensive though i'm now trying to figure out how to make my own stuff from some of the things that google pulled up it would be very easy and i could save alot of money ...i smoke 1-3 grams of the store bought stuff a day at $10 a gm

 

[Chainer]

wow, old thread... merging

 

[Volcano]

merged several syth threads.

RyDogg, read through the thread instead of asking questions answered here already.

As a moderator help him out and I don't think his question was asked here. Just sayin'

 

[Chainer]

The question has been answered here 100 times and been asked 100 times, I already helped him by moving it to the thread with the ANSWER IN IT.

You know I don't get paid to merge/move threads all day, post videos of how to make your own blends, and make sure people don't use denatured acetone... why don't you "help him out" by rehashing info in this thread instead of bitchin me out?

*sigh*... .... /rant

JWH-018 - For me, more potent, longer-lasting than 250, feels like my eyes go red. Great Oral use for me. Body stone.
JWH-250 - More head high and clarity, feels like my eyes glaze over, same potency per MG but MUCH shorter high. No oral use for me.


And yes, a few pages back I did a TRIP REPORT ABOUT THE TWO. I *personally* wrote up the differences between the two every 5 min in 2 separate TRs.

 

[Volcano]

I live in illinois they made jwh-018 illegal but would that go for all the jwhs?


was his question. that hasn't been answered