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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

TheSalineCanine said:
Recently came across ''FUB-AKB48'' - anyone tried this one yet and care to share their experiences?

"More like AKB48 than ABFUBINACA it was compared to, but more mentally and physically 'jittery' feeling than either... "

About all I got so far...



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just got a bit from dl. very good product, shipping is pretty quick (6-7). enjoi (:
 
I have botj ab-fubinaca and.ab-chminaca....i think the chminaca is better,although if.u go over too much i tend.to get realll shakey.
But.i nted roto know if anyone doses any of these synths orally ?and how do u do it?can u just put the measured powder on ur tongue?or under.ur tongue? Or do,u,have to mix in a fat soursce like with thc/cbd?
 
foolsgold said:
any one had thj-018 that looks like brown sugar yet ? never got to smoke it as i got busted and lost the damn stuff
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might have been for the better F

the THJ-018 here in the states is white, crystal, in fact I have yet to see a brown noid and I just about seen them all except the cancer ones.
 
jwh-122 was by far my favorite as well. it wasn't quite as potent by weight, but the effect it produced once you got to the right dose was by far the best. very stoning, very little anxiety.
 
thenightwatch said:
jwh-122 was by far my favorite as well. it wasn't quite as potent by weight, but the effect it produced once you got to the right dose was by far the best. very stoning, very little anxiety.
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I kinda like this AB-Fubinaca (sprayed on plant matter, but the real deal, no mixes)as freebies for buying something else, no matter what wikipedia saying it binds more than anything ever. (I think). Never saw any place with jwh-122, jwh's are still legal here, only not 018 and 073.

A very good years-long going canadian vendor has JWH-250, that must be the highest number of a JWH I've seen. Sorry cannot help about 122, but i'm quite like you, I can get really cheap QuebecGold so there's no real incentive for me to buy any of those things.
FWIW, I find AB-FUBINACA very good for yawning lol, I mean, since I met it, it really helps my asthma even better than THC. I yawn so deeply as soon as i finish just one bowl (which is all is needed with the herb + AB-Fubinaca I got) and it's like now I can get a complete yawn going on, something I couldn't since years, which I attributed to asthma and tobacco, but this thing really helps my brain take in some air :D
 
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I ordered some AB-FUBINACA for kicks with some other stuff. I have a feeling I'm going to end up trying it once and throw it out. The last synth I tried was from some shop and one hit almost gave me a panic attack, and I was smoking real bud then. Before that one of the AM's made my hearing go out until it wore off, like it became muffled! I haven't smoked weed for a bit and that makes my heart race, and it isn't a full agonist on both receptors. It's supposedly coming in PG (propylene glycol) *shrug*

So, there's a good chance I'll hate this stuff, besides, I'm more ok with other RC's than synth noids'
 
thenightwatch said:
coming in PG? interesting. how are you going to dose it sir whatzdrugs?
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Just looked it is AB-CHMINACA SOLUTION not the other I said, and it is in PG, but it only says "one vial." If the loading isn't written on the bottle I'll ask, then start at like .1mg under my tongue if I do it at all. Based on how much the guy sells a gram for, I'd guess that it is a half gram (same price only in solution), but I won't be finding out through trial and error :)
 
I forgot to ask, how do you think I should dose it? He didn't write the loading on the bottle, or even the freaking chemical name. Odd, the guy usually packs it better, and with an MSDS sheet and labeled. No "not for human consumpton" to be seen anywhere. I'll have to wait until he gets back to me with the loading, if he really puts the same amount as the powder in the PG (they're the same price) I could get fucked really quick, it's a TINY bottle. It's happen before with etizolam when I ordered 10mg and the dude gave me like 70. He was shit, I think he went down in flames or something.


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I'm almost a bit scared to take it even when I find out the loading. Two hits of chronic gets me STONEDeded as fuck. I haven't bought weed in quite a bit, and have only smoked a handful of times in the last three months.
 
idk. under the tongue is probably okay. i know this is probably already your plan, but it bares repeating -- start with the smallest drop possible
 
thenightwatch said:
idk. under the tongue is probably okay. i know this is probably already your plan, but it bares repeating -- start with the smallest drop possible
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Mannnn this stuff freaks me out

"AB-FUBINACA is an indazole-based synthetic cannabinoid (CB) with 10-fold greater affinity for
the central CB1 receptor (Ki = 0.9 nM) than that of JWH-018." Only did JWH-122, but I could see how having it 10x as potent could be a bad thing.
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This was my plan, tell me how it sounds. It depends how heavy the loading is, but if it's fairly high (500mg in 7.5 ml, 66 mg/ml - this is a guess, that would assume that I am accurately judging it to be 7.5 ml, and that he put in half the amount for the work of putting it in a a vial and PG, I'm waiting for confirmation) I was thinking about rinsing out an empty e-cig bottle real good, about the same material, or I might have an empty plastic one, and measuring the volume with a 5ml oral syringe, and then doubling it with PEG. If it's soluble in propylene glycol it should be soluble in polyethylene glycol right? That PEG seems to dissolve almost everything, including varnish.

Sound logical?



(Man I hate how they password protect .pdfs so I can't copy it. It's so stupid, you hit print screen, create file from clipboard, and then make it turns the image back into text. Fuckers, like the kind of people reading this stuff can't figure that out?)
 
thenightwatch said:
sounds logical to me but i don't know that much about e-cigs.

have you thought about loading it into an e-cig rather than taking it orally?
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I thought about it and immediately decided against it. That is so variable I don't think it would be a good idea. Besides I USE E-Cigs to quit smoking months ago and hit them without thinking about it.... so I don't think it's a great idea.


Sounds like it will work. They are miscible and immiscible with the exact same things.

"Propylene Glycol USP (5,8,13)
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Content: not less than 99.5% of C3H8O2
Description: clear, colorless, viscous liquid; practically odorless, hygroscopic
Specific gravity: between 1.035 and 1.037
Solubility: miscible with water, ethyl and isopropyl alcohol, acetone, glycerin, polyethylene glycol 400, chloroform, and ether; dissolves many volatile oils, but is immiscible with fixed oils and mineral oil
It is used as a solvent-vehicle for the preparation of pharmaceutical dosage forms for internal or external use. It is also useful as a humectant and preservative.
Polyethylene Glycol NF (8,9,13)
Polyethylene Glycol, also known as PEG, is an addition polymer of ethylene oxide and water. It has the formula H(OCH2CH2)nOH, where n represents the number of oxyethylene groups.
PEG is labeled with a number indicating the average nominal molecular weight of the polyethylene glycol. The numbers range from 200 to 8,000; polyethylene glycols 200, 300, 400, and 600 are liquids at room temperature, and the higher molecular polymers are waxy solids. (See Chapter 24, Table 24.1.)
Polyethylene glycol 400 is the most common liquid PEG used as a solvent-vehicle in making pharmaceutical dosage forms for both internal and external use. It is a clear, colorless, slightly hygroscopic, viscous liquid with a slight odor. It congeals at 6°C and has a specific gravity at 25° of 1.12.
Solubility: All PEGs are soluble in water, and many are organic solvents. PEG 400 is miscible with water, ethyl and isopropyl alcohol, acetone, glycerin, and propylene glycol. It is immiscible with fixed oils and mineral oil."
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And fuck, I was right the first time. It is the chiminica, not the other one. Seems that one is no longer for sale due to certain overzealous lawyers.
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Edit2 (later that night): Fuck I'm bored. I got this shit, my 'guy' forgot it and sent it second and it got here first! I would have much rather had my 4-aco-DMT and the etizolam pills just incase (I have the powder.... but my scales fucked and I like peace of mind, I need to borrow my buddies and make a solution in both senses).

What the hell do I do with this stuff? In PG? I'm not putting it in an ecig period , I have plenty of tanks, but I can't risk it being a ridiculous dose, still haven't gotten the loading info! It costs the same as a gram so it has to be less than that, but that is still fairly meaningless. Maybe when he put's it in PG it's a super deal! How should I know? I barely smoke weed, and a hit or two of chronic would get my heart from resting at 55 BPM to 130 BPM for a quarter hour, faster than any stim. Not worried much about that though, I took a lopressor er earlier (stim come down), but I bet it would still suck ass.

Seriously who sells vials of stuff without the fucking ratio? A gram of powder I can measure. I think I'm gonna grab a tooth pick, and dip 1-2mm at a time and do it sublingually. That can't be more than like .01ml right? Wish me luck.

I guess I probably need to order another better mg scale for the aco-dmt anyway. *sigh* Come on amazon prime!

Edit 3: I was spun when I wrote I was gonna start with .1 ml lol, I haven't felt it yet, but I put a single TINY drop on my broken ass scale (not to weigh it, just so I could see it) and stuck the very tip of a ball point pen into it and licked it. I suppose, what, repeat this every two minutes until I feel something, give up in 20 if nothing happens? Seriously for a guy so on the ball he screwed the pooch on this one.
 
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lolwhatzdrugs said:
I thought about it and immediately decided against it. That is so variable I don't think it would be a good idea. Besides I USE E-Cigs to quit smoking months ago and hit them without thinking about it.... so I don't think it's a great idea.


Sounds like it will work. They are miscible and immiscible with the exact same things.





And fuck, I was right the first time. It is the chiminica, not the other one. Seems that one is no longer for sale due to certain overzealous lawyers.
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Edit2 (later that night): Fuck I'm bored. I got this shit, my 'guy' forgot it and sent it second and it got here first! I would have much rather had my 4-aco-DMT and the etizolam pills just incase (I have the powder.... but my scales fucked and I like peace of mind, I need to borrow my buddies and make a solution in both senses).

What the hell do I do with this stuff? In PG? I'm not putting it in an ecig period , I have plenty of tanks, but I can't risk it being a ridiculous dose, still haven't gotten the loading info! It costs the same as a gram so it has to be less than that, but that is still fairly meaningless. Maybe when he put's it in PG it's a super deal! How should I know? I barely smoke weed, and a hit or two of chronic would get my heart from resting at 55 BPM to 130 BPM for a quarter hour, faster than any stim. Not worried much about that though, I took a lopressor er earlier (stim come down), but I bet it would still suck ass.

Seriously who sells vials of stuff without the fucking ratio? A gram of powder I can measure. I think I'm gonna grab a tooth pick, and dip 1-2mm at a time and do it sublingually. That can't be more than like .01ml right? Wish me luck.

I guess I probably need to order another better mg scale for the aco-dmt anyway. *sigh* Come on amazon prime!

Edit 3: I was spun when I wrote I was gonna start with .1 ml lol, I haven't felt it yet, but I put a single TINY drop on my broken ass scale (not to weigh it, just so I could see it) and stuck the very tip of a ball point pen into it and licked it. I suppose, what, repeat this every two minutes until I feel something, give up in 20 if nothing happens? Seriously for a guy so on the ball he screwed the pooch on this one.
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Try spraying it onto a substrate. Real weed? Marshmallow leaf? Basil? Just use a super dilute amount and burn slowly
 
When smoking noids,even THC, the first time back really is different, i get that same feeling you do, until i doit again later on in the day/hour.... Once that goes away its back to chill-mode dude!

--Sorry, cant find post, it was about heart racing yur first time back to smokin' after a long break
 
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jeremysdemo said:
might have been for the better F

the THJ-018 here in the states is white, crystal, in fact I have yet to see a brown noid and I just about seen them all except the cancer ones.
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could be your right ive seen one or two off white ones but this was like sugar lumps never seen it since plus the vendor banned so i cant order any more
 
InterestingFACT said:
Try spraying it onto a substrate. Real weed? Marshmallow leaf? Basil? Just use a super dilute amount and burn slowly
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Read this. http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...d-Shocks-of-euphoria!?p=12560574#post12560574

IF I HAD WEED WHY WOULD I EVEN BOTHER? You can't really buy mexican schwag no more. Chronic only. I can't afford, nor really desire it enough to pay for it. This shit was cheap, and I'm high, and yet not as paranoid, or pumped with energy like regular chronic.


Next suggestions would have been dangerous. I took tiny hits (see link) SLOWLY. They were tiny, and yet I got stoned as fuck. Besides, if it is to be vaped like this, or probably orally, not smoked on something..
 
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