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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

no, but the amount of acetone to grams of herb does matter. you want to make sure to use enough acetone to fully saturate your herb, but don't use too much because then you'll have excess acetone pool up at the bottom of your container.

i usually use somewhere between 5ml and 10ml per gram of herb.
 
Are any of the cannaboids very similar to the effects of THC, but cause a stronger high, heavy body chills, increased heart rate, ringing ears, severe cotton mouth and dry eyes, and a noticeable groggy feeling the next day? Or rather if this is too vague a description, which cannaboids are the most similar to THC? Thanks
 
the ideal ratio will vary based on what herbs you are using and how big of a batch you are making, but that's about the right range. bigger batches require less solvent per gram of herb, i've found. results may vary.
 
That's also good to know. Thanks again man! I don't know what BL's synth-noid users would do without J'sdemo and yourself. Making smaller batches such as four 25g ones instead of a 100g batch would reduce the potential for hotspots, right? I think instead of a blend the person I am passing this info on to is going to use plain mullein.
 
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Bzub said:
can synthetic pot be detected in a urinary drug screen?
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some of them can, the test is quite expensive tho it depends on the type of test they are giving you and if your noid is legal for example.

in general they do not test for noids in your system themselves, they are testing for a metabolite like the one they test for THC, so newer legal noids often do not have documented metabolites.
 
HEy

I want to remind the crew here if anyone has not yet voted for Erowid Center to win the contest over at reddit please do by the 25th!

I don't know if they are going to allow this link or not, but I hope they do because Erowid has done a lot in the last 15 years for harm reduction and this money would really help the cause.

https://www.reddit.com/donate?organization=203256212

ducks and runs for cover....%)
 
Of course they can all be detected sooner or later. That's out of question. Right now they are being spat out so fast forensic research just can't keep up with what substances they should even test for. There are some general signs of cannabinoid abuse though which can be detected in urine samples, but I'm not entirely sure. It's not exactly my area of expertise.

Unless the situation really calls for it though (e.g. you being known to abuse a certain cannabinoid), you will not be tested for synthetic cannabinoids within 2015. You can hold me personally accountable for this statement. ;)

Btw I had around 25mg AB-CHMINACA with next to no tolerance the other week, it was quite the ride. Wrote a report about it earlier today. I don't give a shit who's gonna call bullshit on this, but I remained stoned for 2-3 days after I was released from the chemical torture chamber that was the neverending plateau caused by this intoxication.

EDIT: Aw, fresh accounts can't vote. I never saw a reason to have a reddit account. Erowid... Oh the memories. A makeover wouldn't hurt though imho.
 
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Is there any synthetic pot that doesn't cause withdrawals or addiction?
Is there any synthetic pot that is similar to cannabis?

I had a smoke of new one about two years ago, after they banned spice and spice diamond, which I loved, and it was called mary jane. It only lasted 20mins but was horrible, I was anxious on it, but not the normal weed anxiety that turns into lucid thinking, it was horrible.
 
3dmusic said:
Is there any synthetic pot that doesn't cause withdrawals or addiction?
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many of them can be used responsibly without withdrawal or addiction.
I used jwh250 for about a year and quit cold turkey when it became illegal in the U.S. never got withdrawal just a little bit moody for a few days :)

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Is there any synthetic pot that is similar to cannabis?
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they all vary just as cannabis strains vary, it is depending on what type of cannabis you are trying to emulate really.
some like the light head buzz and stimulating effects of some strains, while others like the sedating /couch lock effects of others.
3dmusic said:
I had a smoke of new one about two years ago, after they banned spice and spice diamond, which I loved, and it was called mary jane. It only lasted 20mins but was horrible, I was anxious on it, but not the normal weed anxiety that turns into lucid thinking, it was horrible.
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In my 7 years of research I have never smoked any spice with a commercial name being sold already made, who knows what is in it. it's dangerous enough to buy noids, have them tested to confirm what they are and make your own dosages IMHO.

As I have been saying since MEGA synth noids thread 2 the endocannabinoid system of the body is responsible for regulating a myriad of the bodies important functions and this shit needs to be respected.
 
i'm on probation and can't smoke or do anything.. do you guys know of any reliable websites that sell spice in america?
 
jeremysdemo said:
many of them can be used responsibly without withdrawal or addiction.
I used jwh250 for about a year and quit cold turkey when it became illegal in the U.S. never got withdrawal just a little bit moody for a few days :)


they all vary just as cannabis strains vary, it is depending on what type of cannabis you are trying to emulate really.
some like the light head buzz and stimulating effects of some strains, while others like the sedating /couch lock effects of others.

In my 7 years of research I have never smoked any spice with a commercial name being sold already made, who knows what is in it. it's dangerous enough to buy noids, have them tested to confirm what they are and make your own dosages IMHO.

As I have been saying since MEGA synth noids thread 2 the endocannabinoid system of the body is responsible for regulating a myriad of the bodies important functions and this shit needs to be respected.
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Thanks, I think I'll just stick the old and loved 'bis.
 
jeremysdemo said:
HEy

I want to remind the crew here if anyone has not yet voted for Erowid Center to win the contest over at reddit please do by the 25th!

I don't know if they are going to allow this link or not, but I hope they do because Erowid has done a lot in the last 15 years for harm reduction and this money would really help the cause.

https://www.reddit.com/donate?organization=203256212

ducks and runs for cover....%)
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Guys! Erowid won and got the funding! thanks to all who voted. %) happy day.
 
Spice was amazing the 2 times i did it but i would never do it again.
Because it's bad for you, addictive, and there are rumors that overabusing it can ruin real weed for you because it is so much more potent.
 
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