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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

do those flavorings have the ingredients listed? list 'em please, if so. there might be ingredients in there that won't work too well for a smoke blend. sugar, for instance, will carmelize as you burn your blend and cause it to smoke funnily.

i've used just pure cinnamon in a blend before, it worked out okay. sorta harsh though.
Hey I night watch I was wonder I bought sum flavorings from Lorann oils and was wondering how much would I have to use for a 14 gram batch of leafs would it be good to evenly spray the flavor or put just a couple of drops and how much if you can help me out I'd really appreciate it
 
I found STS-135 to be underwhelming personally. Esp. compared to 5F-AKB48 (or any of the new gen/last gen noids like UR144, all the 5F' analogs -PB22, BB-22, or any of the "AB-FU" noids - but stay away from the one thats causing all the hospitliazations - ABD-FUMCHINA or something - whats up with the nomeclature of these newer noids? lol AKB48 is a J-Pop band, AB-FUxxx (I have no other way to classify these lol). Only time I enjoyed STS-135 was when it was paired up in a ratio with something else.

I also find it strange that people find cross tolerance to regular mary jane - when my experience is the total opposite. If I smoke blends or noids for a good while (about the length of a MJ break) - then my buddy has some good medical marijuana, edibles or hashish - it BLOWS ME AWAY. The First time I was hitting it like a champ - even thinking, I bet the cross tolerance from all the synth noids will make this pretty dull, boy was I wrong.

I used to have to smoke a biig blunt or two or three fat bowls (bowls to the head, blunt with friends or two big jays) to even catch a buzz my tolerance was so high - but I was higher than even the most potent herbal blend had gotten me, probably ever - it was ALMOST akin to the first time I got high, with the mental effects - slightly psychedelic (something that fades the more, and more you smoke mary - most prominent in my experience - the first time you truly get high) - playing scrabble was ridiculous, as was trying to carry on a conversation. Made me realize how much better MJ is to blends (even though I still enjoy both due to, availability or lack there of, of one or the other haha).

Goes to show our biology all works different, and similiarly. Some people get crazy cross tolerance - others get none at all. Happy to be in the latter group. I think it might have something to do with how far we've gotten from classical cannabinoids (Dibenzopyrans) - and their structure. How many generations of noids has it been now, tinkering molecularlly with the formulea to stay in the grey market? At this point, aren't they really all Cannabimimetics - as they are no longer technically speaking cannabinoids, but a whole array of groups of chemicals that simply have binding affinites for the same receptor sites (albiet with different actions/binding affinities for receptor subtypes, agonists, ligands, activity enhancers, reuptake inhibitors, PAMs etc)
 
Hey guys I'm a newbie to the site but I joined the site because your guys give a lot of helpful tips and advice that other places don't really discuss I am experimenting with all the new chems I smoke 10 grams to 20 grams of leaf a day I smoke a lot I've grown tolerence and I'm used to very strong stuff is there something I might be doing wrong the first batch I did was alright and strong the second batch wasn't as strong what are the steps exactly wouldn't want to hurt myself lol I did a batch oof 12 grams of leaf with 7 grams of chem which was 3 grams of 5fur144 with 20ml of acetone sprayed that one first then put 4 grams of ab-pinaca with 25ml of acetone on top of the first spray so I put 7 grams total of Chem in 12 grams of leaf first time it came out good cuz I put a little bit of flavoring drops second batch I think I sprayed to much fflavoring second time I sprayed the flavoring instead of just putting drops..can anyone give me sum advice
 
^honestly i dont really understand what youre saying... do you smoke 10-20 grams of mixture a day, mixed with a 7:12 ratio of noid:herb? if so, thats quite a lot :o
 
I've been smoking nearly for 6 years straight everyday I am to the point where I can hardly eat right I smoke a 10-20 grams of mixture a day sealed bags don't hit me at all so we have to get blends that they do on there on own I'm quite tired of smoking stuff that I don't know what's in it so I tried a blend myself and I put 3 grams of 5fur144 and then mixed with 4 grams of ab-pinaca on 12 grams of herb so yeah the batch I did was 7:12 and yes I think it is quite a lot of Chem that was why I was wondering if I did something wrong
 
Woah, BB-22 is pretty strong. Definitely stronger than STS-135, and as strong as / stronger than 5f-AKB-48. By strong, I mean subjectively potent, of course.
 
yeah BB-22 was pretty strong. not mentally strong, but physically very very strong. it started to make me feel pretty unhealthy after awhile, though -- more unhealthy than any of the other cannabinoids i've ever smoked. started having weird feelings in my lungs, and had bowel issues. i was smoking it during this last winter, though, and this winter was one of the harshest winters i've ever been through.... so perhaps it was just the cold and not the BB-22. still tho, keep an eye out.
 
Having huge trouble finding any synthetics in mass. For awhile now and I need them to eat. Down to 105lbs, need help!! Anyone else having trouble finding synthetics here? It's hell and I'm outta ideas and can't smoke pot. Any ideas? I'm in pm now so I can't piss green. I'm properly fucked :(
 
Been robbed twice ordering online so that's not really an option either. Sry I forgot that in orig post. I'm new here so just gimmie a few days to get used to bl
 
This entire thread makes me cringe, id give you my MJ for free before i let any human smoke synthetic.. But, since i am here.. Do you guys actually smoke this? Are you not being chased by aliens? I have never heard a good story of someone smoking synthetics, its always ended in "And then they tried to stab everyone" or "And then they tried to stab themselves" or "And then they were convinced they were dead", so how are you guys and gals handling it?

Turn off your TV. What you are describing is a SEVERE OVERDOSE. I have never personally seen anything like this happen in my 6+ years of use. If you stay away from blends, and only vaporize pure chemicals weighed out dose-by-dose with a microgram scale, you will get identical effects to marijuana, every time. Listen to yourself - if that was really what it was like, why would anyone do it???

@The person who asked, THJ-122 is nice, but it requires a lot of material (10-20mg) 5F-THJ-122 is better.

EDIT: @Cliffy78 No one is going to help you. What you're doing is against the rules. Take a benzodiazepine and some benadryl, that will stimulate appetite.
 
Turn off your TV. What you are describing is a SEVERE OVERDOSE. I have never personally seen anything like this happen in my 6+ years of use. If you stay away from blends, and only vaporize pure chemicals weighed out dose-by-dose with a microgram scale, you will get identical effects to marijuana, every time. Listen to yourself - if that was really what it was like, why would anyone do it???

@The person who asked, THJ-122 is nice, but it requires a lot of material (10-20mg) 5F-THJ-122 is better.

EDIT: @Cliffy78 No one is going to help you. What you're doing is against the rules. Take a benzodiazepine and some benadryl, that will stimulate appetite.
Dude what r u talking about? I was just asking if anyone had ideas on stimulating my appitite. Why are u being a fucking prick? I'm new here dude, it's against the rules to ask for ideas? Wtf is this site for then? I didn't want someone responding with"well check for synths online" cause I had bad experiences. Looking for other ideas man. Geez dude u need the damn benzos. Btw benzos add to my nausea, thx alot
 
Turn off your TV. What you are describing is a SEVERE OVERDOSE. I have never personally seen anything like this happen in my 6+ years of use. If you stay away from blends, and only vaporize pure chemicals weighed out dose-by-dose with a microgram scale, you will get identical effects to marijuana, every time. Listen to yourself - if that was really what it was like, why would anyone do it???

@The person who asked, THJ-122 is nice, but it requires a lot of material (10-20mg) 5F-THJ-122 is better.

EDIT: @Cliffy78 No one is going to help you. What you're doing is against the rules. Take a benzodiazepine and some benadryl, that will stimulate appetite.
Ohh ur a pharmacy tech, well that explains it. Go treat some pain patients like shit at ur pharmacy and leave me alone.
 
I am a pharm tech but where did I bring that up? And
Having huge trouble finding any synthetics in mass. For awhile now and I need them to eat. Down to 105lbs, need help!! Anyone else having trouble finding synthetics here? It's hell and I'm outta ideas and can't smoke pot. Any ideas? I'm in pm now so I can't piss green. I'm properly fucked

Sounds a lot like asking for sources, which is not allowed.

I'm sorry you took my comment so personally, I was trying to help. You can get in trouble for sourcing. Hope you feel better.
 
I am a pharm tech but where did I bring that up? And


Sounds a lot like asking for sources, which is not allowed.

I'm sorry you took my comment so personally, I was trying to help. You can get in trouble for sourcing. Hope you feel better.
Not sourcing just suffering man. Don't want problems just sick man. If you hadn't eaten in three days you'd be a bit mad when some one said what u said to me when it wasn't my intention to "source" at all. I phrased my question carefully and u read what u wanted to read. You didn't say u were a tech, I looked at ur profile to see if u were a moderator. It didn't say so I'm guessing ur not. Leave scolding people to the mods bro. A lot of us pain patients get judged everyday and we come here to get away from that and not be judged. No hard feelings and I don't want problems here...
 
BB-22 ko's me every time. It's just so damn strong. I find it quite difficult to walk straight while high on this; my legs feel like jelly, lol.
 
I am a new member with great interest in this thread. Just need help on learning how to use this thing! Thanks for any tips anyone may send my way! Sorry if I interrupt anything at all.
 
I am a new member with great interest in this thread. Just need help on learning how to use this thing! Thanks for any tips anyone may send my way! Sorry if I interrupt anything at all.
Welcome slym!!! I'm pretty new too bro, it's all trial and error you'll figure it out quick. It's a wicked cool site man, enjoy :)
 
Thank you. I appreciate the welcoming words. I just don't understand how to message me personally, or if you CAN do that?
 
Thank you. I appreciate the welcoming words. I just don't understand how to message me personally, or if you CAN do that?
I've yet to figure that out either . I think we may need to be blulighters before we can send new pms. I know if someone pms u that u can pm them back but I can't send a new pm. I can't edit my profile either. Idk, still working out the bugs myself bro. If I figure it out I'll find u and let u know fo' sho' lol
 
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