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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 3

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N0 W4RN1NG said:
@thenightwatch, it's true that they could circumvent their specifications by calling an 'expert witness' to the stand, or similar, but this is a LOT of effort for them to have to go through. Not to mention, something of that nature could theoretically apply to ANY research chemical, cannabinoid or not - yet we don't see expert witnesses being called to testify against etaqualone (a blatant analogue of a Schedule 1 Drug). As you mentioned, this is something US dealers of EAM-2201 may have to be concerned about, but I strongly doubt someone arrested with a couple hundred milligrams of EAM-2201 on them would get in trouble for it.

Cops are pretty dumb, at the street level. If it's not explicitly listed as a banned chemical, Officer Shmoe isn't going to cross-examine the structures for possible new analogues. (of course, if it's in a blend with a fancy package, they'll know what it is and you'll probably be fucked)

If they don't have proof of intent to use for human consumption, I would put my money on EAM-2201 being safe.
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yup, like i said originally, the vendors selling this stuff are playing with fire.

the street level user probably won't have any problems with this one for now.
 
i ran out of plant material for my blend til next week when it gets delivered, what else is there that could be found at like say a grocery store that can be smoked and laced with my akb48f?
 
Im a chronic pain patient I used to be on heavy opiates and oxycontin and things like that .since I have I reduced my medication to a Laura tab 10/ 500. I noticed that when I smoke this particular blend that I don't have the cravings for the medication. I've gone several hours past my normal doseing time without any cravings and didn't realize it .so I'm just wondering if this could be associated with other rc's I can't really identify the rc in this blend but I would like to keep this trate
 
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Chainer said:
Tagged as "do not help." You are new here I realize, but I've posted several pages, videos, information graphs, charts, studies, etc on these synthetics alone. I'm a mod, and have been for a long time here. Imagine reading the same questions over and over again, having answered them thousands of times, and then people refuse to search for information you have already posted, or refuse to read things on the front page like:



The questions you are asking have already been addressed. These companies will not release what they are putting in their blends.

I hope you realize you have no idea what you are putting in your body, and these companies could give a shit what side effects you get, as they can just say 'we had no intention of any user smoking our blends."

I do not get paid, compensated, or recognition for the help I do, the work I put in keeping these forums clean, setting up these threads for you to use and easily organize information. In fact, I generally get insulted for my help by new users who have been here for little time at all, much in the way you just did. It is a very thankless job with no benefits beyond being able to help spread the best information possible and reduce harm among a community I am very much a part of. People find it very easy to become assholes when they don't get the exact answer they want.
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I just want to say Thank You.
I'm up to page 15 and I do appreciate the wealth of information here and members as well.
 
homiepidgeon said:
Well that went right over my head lmfao. I skimmed over some of it and have no idea what they're talking about.
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Basically they did experiments on mice and determined that the spleen's were actually able to remove damaged DNA more readily with the use of that rc then explain the process then determined that it had the ability to inhibit the T&B cells which could be beneficial to some people have an overactive immune system and proved it and were able to repeat the experiment basically
 
David the Chansey said:
I stopped my usage of cannabinoids/cannabis 2 weeks ago now. The first week of stopping I had what I consider withdrawals, mainly flu-like symptoms. After the initial week I felt fine, but I have noticed how much more prone to illness I was when I was smoking these daily. And I didn't even realise the tolerance issue until I realised it took about 10mg of MAM-2201 to get me high, and even then it was much more of a body high than a mind high.

Gonna give it a few more days until I start again, and I'm gonna try to be more conservative in my consumption.
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I just read a study of jwh rc and it was repeatable
in mice it reduced the immune system specificly t and b cells. this wasnt your rc but these are all similar
 
b3ast1e said:
Are these chems soluble in like a PG/VG dilutant? Or vegetable glycerin with a dash of grain alcohol? I have a variable voltage nicotine vaporizer, would love it if I could turn it into stealth camberwell carrot.

Pipe dream probably.
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you can put the rc directly in the pg/vg mix.
this is hard on the atomizer .for low voltage unit (3.7v] use low resistance atomizer. for variable voltage unit run the unit at 4.1v and use 1.8-2.0 ohhm atomizer.
 
well i guess you already figured it so idk if it matters now, but i just remembered that i used green tea leaves in a blend once and it worked out fairly well
 
nogood said:
i ran out of plant material for my blend til next week when it gets delivered, what else is there that could be found at like say a grocery store that can be smoked and laced with my akb48f?
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bought chamomile and mint leaves works just fine pretty tasty too
 
any of you heard of this one pb-22 ? Quinolin-8-yl 1-pentyl-1H-indole-3-carboxylate seen it on a site and looking for something new also this one from a uk vendor 5F-PB22
 
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foolsgold said:
any of you heard of this one pb-22 ? Quinolin-8-yl 1-pentyl-1H-indole-3-carboxylate seen it on a site and looking for something new also this one from a uk vendor 5F-PB22
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Dose like MAM-2201. ~1mg will get you high (without tolerance). Feels like smoking weed. No body buzz though. Bit more psychotic than MAM-2201.
 
It's odd how few experience/comparison reports there are of these really new cannabinoids.

I'm slightly wary of being one of the first to try, especially with how many of them have odd and unexplained peripheral side effects like the skin drying and hydration unbalancing/constipation of 2201, ear ringing, sound attenuation and head 'pressure' of 2233 or extra low blood pressure from 1220. Oddly no one seems to mention these side effects online, or is it just me?
 
Never mentioned the constipation thing probably down to stimga and slightly embarrasment, I'm pretty sure larger doses were causing a muscle to contract and prevent anything at all from passing. Noticed once after a tolerance break and accidental OD that I could feel muscles tightening down there and hear things being "moved" internally like when your stomach rumbles/gurgles. Dodgy as fuck.

Good to know it's not just me tho lol.
 
i have noticed with AKB48 F if I'm puking or really need to shit but dont have the time or place to do it I'll toke up really fast like clear the bowl in 30 seconds on a half g of blend. It'll stop everything I mean everything, but as soon as it wears off you better hope you got a can near you cause whatever your holding back.....is coming fast.
 
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