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Yeah dude, definitely AM-2201 if you ask me. That stuff is awful until you build up a hefty tolerance to it - but you don't want to do that.


Ha! Of course you don't run into the store and ask for some 5F-AKB48. Ya gotta order it, man. Just use safeorscam.com to check if your site's legit or not.

Once you get the pure chems, you can do melting point & solubility tests as well as burn residue checks to ensure you have received a high quality batch.

Yeah, you can make your own blends, it's not tough, but I prefer to just vape the chemicals off of aluminum foil...discrete, quick, and efficient.
 
The thing about the store bought brands is they DONT list what cannabinoids or how much of the different types are in them. There is NO REGULATION on them. You put yourself at risk by smoking them. I recommend you find yourself a source for the actual compounds and make your own blends.

Keep in mind you CANNOT ask people on bluelight about where to get these compounds, but once you get them I would take a look at the Synthetic Cannabinoid Mega Thread, it will be chalked full of info on the subject.

Infact I am going to merge this thread with it.
 
^^^ EXACTLY. And the people making them aren't concerned with their consumers health - if someone gets ill, their defense will be "WELL IT'S THEIR FAULT, WE DON'T SELL THIS PRODUCT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION". They use low quality chemicals, on dirt cheap herbs, and there is speculation that they add ingredients (such as lobelia inflata) to make their blends more addictive than they need to be.


It's also a huge waste of money. For the price of a bag of store bought 'blend', you can easily buy an amount of synthetic cannabinoid that will last you a month of toking every day...

As neko mentioned, I can't give you sources, but I implore you to do some digging, and then check with safeorscam.com, noone should be smoking that gas station crap.
 
N0 W4RN1NG said:
It's also a huge waste of money. For the price of a bag of store bought 'blend', you can easily buy an amount of synthetic cannabinoid that will last you a month of toking every day...

As neko mentioned, I can't give you sources, but I implore you to do some digging, and then check with safeorscam.com, noone should be smoking that gas station crap.
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Thanks so much for your very informative replies, I am definitely going to look in to just getting it straight and not from the head shops.

I've just never explored that option because, A) I just didn't really think it was something people did, B) Very nervous about getting something labeled wrong or very crap quality with harmful impurities. (I've heard stories of people dying because of mislabeled bags), I will definatley check out the website you recommend (safeorscam.com).

Yeah I can't believe how much expensive the "herbal incense" costs! - and most of them make me a little uncomfortable in my skin too easily! lol.

Can the actual chemical be ingested instead of smoked?
 
^ To be honest, the compounds are almost inactive when eaten, unless you dissolve them in alcohol or a fatty substance (butter works really well). Make sure you crush the chemicals VERY finely first! A lot of the synthetic cannabinoids will come to you in crystalline form (tiny crystals, not a giant one haha). If you put these crystals in alcohol, or butter, you will have a very difficult time getting them to dissolve.

Once they are powdered, though, you only need a little stirring & shaking to make them disappear into warm butter or warm vodka.

If you did it right, they work very well this way! Just don't over do it! You will have too strong of a time for sure, and it will be a long time before you come down!!! =x
 
Cannabinoids often make me need a dump straight after smoking them. Maybe the body flushes and also empties the stomach, hence the munchies. Just my guess.

Sometimes it's just gas passing.

Actually, It might just be temporary relaxation of the sphincter and bowels.
 
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hello all now i do not know if this is a miss print or a new noid EAM-2201 this is all the site has up EAM-2201 (4'-ethyl-AM-2201, 5"-fluoro-JWH-210)

EAM-2201 is a research chemical of the synthetic cannabinoid class.

Also known as EAM-2201 (4'-ethyl-AM-2201, 5"-fluoro-JWH-210). Structurally, EAM-2201 is a hybrid of two known cannabinoid compounds JWH-210 and AM-2201, What is EAM-2201 used for? EAM-2201 powder is currently only available as a research material and is not intended for human consumption. as far as i know that's just the bumf for mam2201 .

also on the email was this , As previously anticipated new UK regulations in regards to the temporary ban of some synthetic cannabinoids is soon to come in to place.

The ACMD have sent the following recommendations to the home secretary http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/public...acmd1/synthetic-cannabinoids-2012?view=Binary not sure if its the same as before as iv not had time to check yet but i could have the ban date on it :)
 
My blend has solved insomnia, eating disorders, and pain issues even back pain as well as helping the immunity cured my monkey of a cold within a day
 
Had bad digestion trouble when I was using AM-2201 but not with UR-144 (for some reason).

Any good reports on EAM-2201?
 
5f-AKB48 is honestly the best out there at the moment its feels clean more natural not so much of a ridiculous light speed rocket like UR-144 or its big brother with the added 5f. STS-135 is weak and so is MAM-2201. I have never heard of this EAM-2201 i assume its either something fake or a company trying to put their own name on it instead of MAM-2201
 
^ I enjoyed the high of 5f-akb48, but the smell was pretty bad. I smoke them though, I really should vape. Has anyone made and used "the key" with cannabinoids like these? If not do a lot of you guys use foil?

I'd appreciate reviews of "PB-22" and "De-F-STS-135," which i've read is in fact stronger than its relative sts-135 (but that's all I've heard).
 
STS-135 is light, reminds me of JWH-251 (no typo) in that it is a little 'hollow'. Ok as a mixer, but falls very short as a stand alone.

MAM-2201 is very good, so whoever said it wasn't must have gotten a bad batch or didn't dose high enough (you need to use more than with AM-2201, but the effects are much better once you 'get there').

I agree that 5F-AKB48 is the best, by itself at least, out of the current materials available.

EAM-2201 isn't a 'fake' name a company made up, these aren't brand names...the 'E' signifies an Ethyl group, in place of MAM-2201's 4-Methyl group on regular AM-2201's naphthalene ring...
All that having been said, I haven't tried EAM-2201, but it is out there.

I've heard (5F)PB-22 is good yet a little shorter than one would like(but not as short as the URs), but haven't had the chance to try it myself. "De-F-STS-135" is one (GREAT) vendor's weird name for "2NE1", which has a lousy reputation. This vendor's De-F-STS135\2NE1 is supposed to be pretty good though. I've tried 2NE1 in the past and wasn't impressed, but haven't tried the current "De-F-STS" coming from Florida.
 
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^ I enjoyed the high of 5f-akb48, but the smell was pretty bad. I smoke them though, I really should vape. Has anyone made and used "the key" with cannabinoids like these? If not do a lot of you guys use foil?

I'd appreciate reviews of "PB-22" and "De-F-STS-135," which i've read is in fact stronger than its relative sts-135 (but that's all I've heard).
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Like I've said before I put 5fakb48 into herbal blends 85% mullien and 15% damiana, tastes a lot better that way. I'm thinking of adding kratom powder into the mix anyone have any thoughts on that? possibly too hard of couch locker?
 
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The ACMD have sent the following recommendations to the home secretary http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/public...acmd1/synthetic-cannabinoids-2012?view=Binary not sure if its the same as before as iv not had time to check yet but i could have the ban date on it :)
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a quote from that paper on synths:

The USA “Synthetic Drug Control Act 2012” defines synthetic cannabinoids (known in the USA as cannabimimetic agents)
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cannabimimetic agents huh? I had no idea...
 
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