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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 3
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Instead of PG use Grain Alcohol mixes with blend much easier
nogood
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grain alcohol hurts the chemical gotta use pure acetone dries a whole lot faster too and dont go off telling me o thats horrible itll give u seizures all the toxins evaporate off the herb leaving nothing but the RC and ive had the same recipe for years
I sometimes use my grain alcohol based smoke drops in my e-cig & I would prefer to smoke grain alcohol over acetone
A lil' bit of grain alcohol really helps with the dissolving of the cannabinoids used. I would think as a means to logic you might try grain alcojol b4 you dis it. Grain alcohol has been around for over 10,000 years & is very safe-it would never hurt a cannabinoid, it is every noid's friend- Friend
AM 2201 - First experience.... WOW!
I've been using drugs since I was 16 (more than twice that age now) and have had experience of E, MDMA, K, coke, LSD, speed and meth.... basically party or sex drugs. In the last two years I've been more into weed - mostly vaped from a volcano of extreme Q vape, but also smoked, from a bong or gravity bong (fave method to get fucked up). I have a fantastic supplier of top quality weed.... had some amazing strains in the last year....
Anyway, for cost reasons I've been interested in Synthetic cannaboids for some time. I've read a TON of reports about them in the past few months and done loads of research. This is where my story begins!
I acquired a gram of AM 2201... couldn't believe how cheap it was. Also bought some of a smoking blend which has AM2201 and AM 2233 in it.
Last night I wanted to try AM2201 for the first time//// was a touch nervous given all the reports of people freaking out on them. I had some scales that went down to 0.01g, so my plan was to weigh out 0.01g , take that and split it 5 ways... thus creating doses of around 2-3mg (allowing for inaccuracy).
HOWEVER I discovered my scales were shit.... couldn't get them to read less than 0.03g, and when I weighed .0.03 out, then weight it again I got 0.03, 0.04 and 0.06! plan A therefore failed.
I KNOW I should have waited to get proper MG scales, however I'm human and impulsive and wouldn't have the chance again for a few days so decided to do it anyway. I AM NOT RECOMMENDING ANYONE TAKE WHAT COMES NEXT AS ADVICE.
I decided to try it anyway... and drop 2 TINY specs of powder on some foil. had to hold it up to the light to see it. I vaped this over a candle, but wasn't expecting the stuff to vape so quickly so missed some of the smoke.... even so, I wated a few minutes (5) and felt a tiny tingle of a buzz. I waited another ten mins to see why the high was going and it didn't develop further... just stayed level (felt very much like the tingle you get when you first smoke but haven't come up yet.
I loaded the foil again, this time with three specs. Again I waited and this took my high up slightly.
I repeated this process 5 or 6 times, doing tiny amounts and waiting until inn the end I was more blasted than I think I have ever been.....
It felt great.... slightly different to weed... but great. And, weirdly I felt I had quite a lot of control... I felt really anxious a couple of times and had a few really paranoid thoughts, but was able to recognize them and laugh at myself for being silly, making it go away. I was like here we go you idiot, you're going to freak yourself the fuck out... and laughing. I've never been able to do that with weed... find that when I get para on that the only way is to let it take it's course. I also had a small amount of visual distortion which I've never had one weed even when ingesting large quantities. My heart rate was raised but I didn't feel panicky... I quite liked it as it let me know the drug was working!
One other difference to weed... (sorry to be crude), wanking. Lets face it sex or wanking on weed is a religious experience and sometimes I get high just to have the amazing expansive orgasms weed can give you. AM 2201 made me feel less horny and didn't give quite the same increase in sensitivity. I did have the thought while doing it that a small amount of vaped weed would round out the high nicely...
Anyway... I loved the experience, and over the next few days will try ingesting 50mg.... also going to try the smoking blend I've got... anyone know if that will work in a vaporisor? if so, what temp?
Also want to try some AM2201 with weed to see if I can take my high to a new level.... and to see if my suspicion about how it will change sex is true.
I'll update over the next few days with the rest of my experiments. This is ridiculously cheap when I consider how crazy high I was and how little material it took. I will certain be trying other synthetics.
Anyway.... my advice with AM2201 is start with what you think you need and then quarter it... and invest in some scales... its entirely likely I was just lucky. BUT... don't believe the hype..... this drug isn't a monster if you respect yourself and the chemical enough to be restrained... Also remember you are in control of how you relate to your own thoughts... even if you can't control what pops into your own head.
Question... can i put AM2201 on top of weed in my volcano...?
I've been using drugs since I was 16 (more than twice that age now) and have had experience of E, MDMA, K, coke, LSD, speed and meth.... basically party or sex drugs. In the last two years I've been more into weed - mostly vaped from a volcano of extreme Q vape, but also smoked, from a bong or gravity bong (fave method to get fucked up). I have a fantastic supplier of top quality weed.... had some amazing strains in the last year....
Anyway, for cost reasons I've been interested in Synthetic cannaboids for some time. I've read a TON of reports about them in the past few months and done loads of research. This is where my story begins!
I acquired a gram of AM 2201... couldn't believe how cheap it was. Also bought some of a smoking blend which has AM2201 and AM 2233 in it.
Last night I wanted to try AM2201 for the first time//// was a touch nervous given all the reports of people freaking out on them. I had some scales that went down to 0.01g, so my plan was to weigh out 0.01g , take that and split it 5 ways... thus creating doses of around 2-3mg (allowing for inaccuracy).
HOWEVER I discovered my scales were shit.... couldn't get them to read less than 0.03g, and when I weighed .0.03 out, then weight it again I got 0.03, 0.04 and 0.06! plan A therefore failed.
I KNOW I should have waited to get proper MG scales, however I'm human and impulsive and wouldn't have the chance again for a few days so decided to do it anyway. I AM NOT RECOMMENDING ANYONE TAKE WHAT COMES NEXT AS ADVICE.
I decided to try it anyway... and drop 2 TINY specs of powder on some foil. had to hold it up to the light to see it. I vaped this over a candle, but wasn't expecting the stuff to vape so quickly so missed some of the smoke.... even so, I wated a few minutes (5) and felt a tiny tingle of a buzz. I waited another ten mins to see why the high was going and it didn't develop further... just stayed level (felt very much like the tingle you get when you first smoke but haven't come up yet.
I loaded the foil again, this time with three specs. Again I waited and this took my high up slightly.
I repeated this process 5 or 6 times, doing tiny amounts and waiting until inn the end I was more blasted than I think I have ever been.....
It felt great.... slightly different to weed... but great. And, weirdly I felt I had quite a lot of control... I felt really anxious a couple of times and had a few really paranoid thoughts, but was able to recognize them and laugh at myself for being silly, making it go away. I was like here we go you idiot, you're going to freak yourself the fuck out... and laughing. I've never been able to do that with weed... find that when I get para on that the only way is to let it take it's course. I also had a small amount of visual distortion which I've never had one weed even when ingesting large quantities. My heart rate was raised but I didn't feel panicky... I quite liked it as it let me know the drug was working!
One other difference to weed... (sorry to be crude), wanking. Lets face it sex or wanking on weed is a religious experience and sometimes I get high just to have the amazing expansive orgasms weed can give you. AM 2201 made me feel less horny and didn't give quite the same increase in sensitivity. I did have the thought while doing it that a small amount of vaped weed would round out the high nicely...
Anyway... I loved the experience, and over the next few days will try ingesting 50mg.... also going to try the smoking blend I've got... anyone know if that will work in a vaporisor? if so, what temp?
Also want to try some AM2201 with weed to see if I can take my high to a new level.... and to see if my suspicion about how it will change sex is true.
I'll update over the next few days with the rest of my experiments. This is ridiculously cheap when I consider how crazy high I was and how little material it took. I will certain be trying other synthetics.
Anyway.... my advice with AM2201 is start with what you think you need and then quarter it... and invest in some scales... its entirely likely I was just lucky. BUT... don't believe the hype..... this drug isn't a monster if you respect yourself and the chemical enough to be restrained... Also remember you are in control of how you relate to your own thoughts... even if you can't control what pops into your own head.
Question... can i put AM2201 on top of weed in my volcano...?
mydrugbuddy
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what has the appearance of most people UR144 been ? My method that worked until now was to decant larger packs into samller ones to retain freshness. But the soddin labells fell off aint it ¬!!
Anyone elses resemble a very very fine light sandy tan colour, or could that be something else. I smoked a little of that last night was KOd for a bit. then got up, well tried to get up, i staggered horizontally across the room to find the floor a couple of footsteps away. Without ever raising my head above waist height... LOL.
Anyone elses resemble a very very fine light sandy tan colour, or could that be something else. I smoked a little of that last night was KOd for a bit. then got up, well tried to get up, i staggered horizontally across the room to find the floor a couple of footsteps away. Without ever raising my head above waist height... LOL.
Are these chems soluble in like a PG/VG dilutant? Or vegetable glycerin with a dash of grain alcohol? I have a variable voltage nicotine vaporizer, would love it if I could turn it into stealth camberwell carrot.
Pipe dream probably.
No that's a fair point, wouldn't argue with it. I had 3 1/2 grams of ur-144 and just a gram of mam-2201 and I noticed the latter was gone very quickly, so there was something about the former that didn't agree with me from the beginning possibly. I noticed that I just felt vaguely unpleasant on it.
I've just got my own blend of mam-2201 on the go now. Nogood is right, my tolerance felt like it was pretty much baseline because this blend has been handing me my arse. I prefer the buzz to ur-144 by far, it's scary stuff still but has less of that weird alien presence thing going on lol.
nekointheclouds
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Merging with Synthetic Cannabinoid mega thread.
Yes, but please be careful,
You are rapidly driving your tolerance way up
I like the same am Not the 2233 I hear it sux. But I get mine sprayed on blend & burn it
Totally solvent, once the noid you choose is broken down in grain alcohol, put PG into it. That's how I use mine in my e-cig. I got a cheap, used magnetic mixer it eally kicks ass!
nogood
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well see ur doing base drops in an e-cig i would totally use grain alcohol for that method but as a means of creating blends with herbs acetone i find works better and theres less work involved with grain alcohol ive spend hours mixing and flipping and crap to prevent caking on the pan with acetone u flip it all once and lose nothing keep in mind the proportion ive always kept is a gram of chem per oz of herb and i only use less than 4 fl oz of acetone so my tolerance stays where i want it
nogood
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the other thing ive getting really involved is experimenting with certain herbs that have relaxing qualities like recently ive created a valerian root extract(muscle relaxant due to the enormous amounts of alkaloids) which goes perfectly with my blends makes my blend stay true to its name COUCH LOCK hahaha
nogood
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im not doing this out of recreation i have insomnia that was brought on by a bad prescription of concerta at a young age so thats what ive been working on trying to fix my sleep issues so far its been working as a treatment but i keep striving to find a more permanent cure
So glad your problem was resolved with blends
If you tried it my way you can quit wasting money on acetone. I just put 2" of blend in a gallon zip lock baggy.
Add like 30 drops for my smoke drops recipe any flavor ya like & shake the bag, shake it baby. Now let the contents dry out
And test once dry for full effect. If too weak, just put back into bag & add more drops. No more acetone see...
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