MEGA: Rap/Hip Hop DISCUSSION thread.

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the rap you enjoy is still very much around, but it is no longer in the mainstream.
 
Rondeau said:
the rap you enjoy is still very much around, but it is no longer in the mainstream.
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there is a differenc between "rap" and "hip-hop."

while Hip-hip MC's do "rap" as lyricists, "Rap," as a genre, to be blunt and categorical, is pop and not solely the control of the "artist." In fact, with "Rap," the art is stripped down to the "margin."

By "margin" I mean financial profit.


Hip-hop is a culture. It is more than a "genre" of music.

So the quote is correct; Hip-hop is more than striving... it is more alive than ever.


And it will ever grow stronger... people will eventually end this "pop-cycle" of bullshit
and "real" artists will prevail.


Duck Down Records put out records with NO DISTRIBUTION backing them


HIP HOP WILL LIVE FOREVER.


And the revolution will only be televised in the beginning.... then all the power will get cut off... and everyone will be forced to look out their front doors and confront that shit....

and that's real
 
"Think it is when it ain't all peaches and cream
that's why some are found floating face down in the main stream"

Outkast - "Mainstream"
 
j22 said:
2Pac
Jay Z (sorry, I know this typically isn't a mainstream forum, but I love Hova)
GZA
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That is a disgrace to GZA LET ALONE 2Pac!!!!!



Jay Z is a biter to the nth degree..... and he still cant flow....


GZA is the fucking man.... THE FUCKING MAN


and PAc is other worldly..


JayZ..... nothing
 
There's still good and intelligent rap to be found, it's just no longer the popular thing. I recommend checking out Talib Kweli and Lupe Fiasco. Talib Kweli is what hip hop is all about, and Lupe spits some powerful concious shit. His metaphors, flow, and wordplay are unbelievable.
 
cuz it lost its relevance
like every other style that once was it
things change, you can go back to the heydays of jazz, blues, rnb, funk, disco, rock, punk, reggae, samba, bossa, country, folk, mambo, calypso, ska........
you can get a revival but you cant never bring it back,
music is gonna be related to the context that gave it birth
hip hop got infested with the bling virus and now its over

there will always be good hip hop or rock or any style that once was alive and well but as a whole it lost its relevance (musically)
thats just whats being happening since the begining of time

imo

"It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder
How I keep from going under"
 
Attention.

As with any other genre once it starts gaining more and more attention it starts becoming more and more popular. Thus making it more and more diluted as everybody wants to be a part of it. Then it becomes a commodity, there only to generate as much cash as possible before something new comes along for the industry to sink it's teeth into.
 
ninjadanslarbretabar said:
music is gonna be related to the context that gave it birth
hip hop got infested with the bling virus and now its over
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that doesnt make sense... the context that gave "hip-hop" birth is dofferent than what gave "rap" birth.



"rap" is the virus.... but it left the host.... and sucked as much out of it as it could


"Hip-hop" came from the South Bronx in the late 70's and 80's with the influence of Jamaican sound machines and making block parties MORE FUN... FUN for everyone....

people used to break beat to see who was the best... fuck, dancing with the stars is closer to that than "rap"....


anyway..... We live in a society/culture/economy that feeds on weakness and (mostly) ignorance....



MOST people want the bling and the sex and the partying.... but do they get it?



Who is the happiest "lyricist/MC" alive?..... KRS-ONE..... the guys from DEAD PREZ... KILLAH PRIEST....



Everything that glitters ain't gold... and with "rap" the glitter is bullshit...


all this paper that we use to print money aint gonna be worth the paper its printed on.... what will we be left with?

Some moterfucker rapping about his clothes, car and hoes?



Or the memories of DJ Kool Herc and MCs who spoke about truth; real philosophers.



Fuck, Socrates was an MC.... on par with KRS ONE and M-1




Ignorance is bliss..... so is heroin...
 
it used to be about revolution, enlightenment, love, peace, having fun.

then big corporations got ahold of it.

end of story.
 
Max Power said:
it used to be about revolution, enlightenment, love, peace, having fun.

then big corporations got ahold of it.

end of story.
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word is... at least that is what MOST people heard and cared about...

then the corporations kept that shit quite and the people ignorant... except for US who are STILL TALKING ABOUT IT...

NOT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
 
anything wu preferably gza/rza and the whole hieroglyphics crew... rae is deffinatly fallin off tho wit that fuckin bieber song....seriously wtf lol. but top 3 mc's are:

King Just - (from Shaolin Soldiers...u can find him on a couple wu tracks, pretty much considered wu-fam)

KRS One - .....i really shouldnt have to say anything else lol

MF Doom- besides his shady have fake performances or w.e (dont really no the deal on that) his rhymes are unique and his beats are sick. love em

but the best thing that ever came from wu in my opinion....(i dont mean the clan, like who they founded) was the

GraveDiggaz (RZA, Prince Paul, Frukwan aka the Gatekeeper, Too Poetic aka the Grym Reaper)
 
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