MEGA: Rap/Hip Hop DISCUSSION thread.

[calmAnimal]

^LMAO
maybe your joking. i hope your joking


if not:
im pretty sure they have said that about every artist since elvis relative to their time period.

like rock n roll was supposed to ruin the future(now). of course that can be argued true but for the most part we're alright. i seriously doubt that contemporary pop music will corrupt our youth.

 

[RareForm]

i have to say, i think that gangster rap and elvis are as similarly incomparable in terms of effect.

 

[oneswtwld]

i have to say, i think that gangster rap and elvis are as similarly incomparable in terms of effect.

DOes that mean Johnny Cash did the same think... and others of that period?

 

[His Name Is Frank]

KRS-One w/Buckshot: Robot

This song explains it well. I've always been a KRS-ONE fan.

 

[RareForm]

DOes that mean Johnny Cash did the same think... and others of that period?

i was implying that i think the societal effect is considerably different, imo. so, no, to answer your question.

 

[jamesyo]

there is always good hip hop around. its just not in the public eye these days, which sucks as many many talented artists go without the success they deserve

 

[jamesyo]

Celph Titled and Buckwild "Nineteen Ninety Now" is going to be fire.

Step Correctly

you sir are correct. also the new nottz, von pea and the left are all super dope as well

 

[themysticone]

I'm exactly in the demographic that article mentioned (young white guys) but does that mean I shouldn't be able to enjoy classic hip hop? I actually enjoy the golden era hip hop, I don't really care if anyone says that I didn't grow up in that area/context and shouldn't be allowed to enjoy it, the production lyricism of some older MCs is what what I admire.


They didn't make that shit so only "black people from that era" could enjoy it, it's for every one to take in and appreciate it. I think it was A Tribe Called Quest that said something along the lines of"we do this hip hop shit for everyone, black, white, asian or sicilian". I know my lyrics are off base here but is was something to that effect, and they were right. I'll agree that "Hip Hop" these days sucks ass, but saying that you have to be of that era to enjoy the classic hip hop is complete bullshit. If that's what they were thinking then hip hop would truly be DEAD.

As for what happened to hip hop, I'll agree that money and commercialism got to most of the them. Look at Mobb Deep, they went from "The Infamous" to fuckin' G-Unit records. And Nas, from Illmatic to..I don't even know. Most of his shit after "it was written" is mediocre and mainstream as fuck. The only new age rapper that hasn't got caught up in that bullshit seems to be Lupe Fiasco (IMO) but we'll see what happens.

Sorry for the long post, but hip hop is one of the only things I'm really passionate about. I could go on much longer but I'll stop...here!

 

[jamesyo]

you obviously don't listen to much underground shit if you think lupe is on the forefront of non commercial rap (no hate intended, just saying )

 

[themysticone]

not on the forefront, I think he's one of the only new age rappers that is at least tolerable and doesn't rap about clubs and bentleys and shit. And actually I checked out his newest album and it's really not that great, I'll agree.

 

[Rated E]

not on the forefront, I think he's one of the only new age rappers that is at least tolerable and doesn't rap about clubs and bentleys and shit.

Only true in regards to the rappers you've been exposed to I assume.

These rappers are still making good music, recently, that happens to not be about clubs & Bentleys:
Mos Def (The Ecstatic)
The Roots (How I Got Over)
DOOM (Born Like This)
Jay Electronica (Exhibit C)
Jean Grae (Jeanius)
Talib Kweli (new Reflection Eternal is ok at least)

Plus countless more underground rappers that I'm not that familar with. Not to mention great stuff in the time between the "golden era" of hip hop until now.

As for Nas, he had a bad period. I personally liked IWW, but maybe you don't like mafiaso rap. I didn't like I Am or Nastradamus. But every album since has ranged from being at least worth checking out before you write it off to plain awesome. Nas did this track in 2008. Wouldn't call him mediocre.

 

[Swerlz]

It's all about ridin' spinnaz now

They don't stop

 

[EseFlacko708]

Waka flocka flames saving the rap game.

Jim Jones keeping it raw too.

 

[SkagKush]

eyedea and abilities
aesop rock
atmosphere
eminem
celph titled
apathy
living legends
AOTP
immortal technique
vast aire

 

[cherberbear]

Braintax and jehst are two of my fav british artists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1_MmFyHeN8&feature=related

 

[cherberbear]

Sage Francis

Thank you, I like your taste!!%)

 

[Jblazingphoenix100]

Sage Francis ^ HELLZ yEAAAAH

Immortal Technique (+1)

Mystro

Universal Soldiers
Jehst
Jay Dilla
The High & Mighty
Buck65
Ric Branson/Ricochet
Broke N English
Madlib
MF Doom
Mobb Deep
Excentral Tempest
Kyza
Terra Firma
Klashnekoff
Roots Manuva
Rodney P
Non-phixion (RIP )
The Game - I really love this guy's shit on his 1st 2 albums.
fuckkkk so much, haven't listened to hip hop in a while, as listened to it SO much way back, feel I've had to catch up on other stuff..back to hip hop now methinks. Love it.

Braintax

Ramson Badbones

STYLAH!
Lowkey (from the UK, Lowqui or MC Lowkey)
Sincere
Mr Ti2Bs
Doc Brown
Poisonous Poets
Foreign Beggars

 

[brimz]

I'm exactly in the demographic that article mentioned (young white guys) but does that mean I shouldn't be able to enjoy classic hip hop? I actually enjoy the golden era hip hop, I don't really care if anyone says that I didn't grow up in that area/context and shouldn't be allowed to enjoy it, the production lyricism of some older MCs is what what I admire.


They didn't make that shit so only "black people from that era" could enjoy it, it's for every one to take in and appreciate it. I think it was A Tribe Called Quest that said something along the lines of"we do this hip hop shit for everyone, black, white, asian or sicilian". I know my lyrics are off base here but is was something to that effect, and they were right. I'll agree that "Hip Hop" these days sucks ass, but saying that you have to be of that era to enjoy the classic hip hop is complete bullshit. If that's what they were thinking then hip hop would truly be DEAD.

As for what happened to hip hop, I'll agree that money and commercialism got to most of the them. Look at Mobb Deep, they went from "The Infamous" to fuckin' G-Unit records. And Nas, from Illmatic to..I don't even know. Most of his shit after "it was written" is mediocre and mainstream as fuck. The only new age rapper that hasn't got caught up in that bullshit seems to be Lupe Fiasco (IMO) but we'll see what happens.

Sorry for the long post, but hip hop is one of the only things I'm really passionate about. I could go on much longer but I'll stop...here!

You damn right bro! I was fortunate enuff 2 be alive when things were just starting but it don't matter how old u r 2 no whats good .

 

[brimz]

There is a subtle difference beetween ganster rap like N.W.A and Mafioso Rap Like Raekwon n G RAP

 

[cheah]

There's so much good hip hop coming out, you just have to search a bit harder. I see some people recommended some good artists, I just want to add these CD's as well:

Blu & Exile - Below the Heavens
Skyzoo - The Salvation
Fashawn - Boy Meets World

Really excellent stuff