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Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

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Hey guys, which do you think is the most potent antidepressant/mood-lifting substance out of the following:

* Morphine (oral in the form of PPT etc.) or another full agonist such as methadone - I've actually heard from some people that, counterintuitively, full-agonists can cause depressive symptoms in the long-term.
* Tramadol (with its alleged SSRI-action and some anecdotal evidence)
* Buprenorphine (with some evidence of clinical efficacy in several published clinical trials in credible journals)
 
Can you use the seeds bought in a grocery store to make the tea, or do you need the ground pods?
 
^ Answer is usually no, but it depends. Most of the time they wash off the morphine residue but sometimes they don't. A lot of asian food stores sell seeds with morphine reside still present. I know someone that used to buy massive bags of seeds from such a store with Glaxo Smith Kline written on the side!
 
bosselot said:
Can you use the seeds bought in a grocery store to make the tea, or do you need the ground pods?
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depends what youre working but if you have Fresh Market anywhere near you (its like an organic health food chain) those are the best seeds ive ever had access to
 
A found a brand that seems pretty good. Am I allowed to post it here? If not PM me.
 
I know it's nearly impossible to say, but could someone please tell me how much could 25 'mammoth' size pods weight? 100g? 200g? 500g?

Thanks
 
Poppy Grounds

I haven't seen this question before, so here it goes. I find that just downing the poppy grounds provides a stronger high then the tea. The only reason I don't do this on a regular basis is I am unsure of the safety of this. Meaning, how clean are they? I doubt they are grown and handled like food like fruit. If you wash them off you have to wait for them to dry before grinding etc.. Any advise?
 
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When you get blood taken to do you think all those alkoloids that are in the pods show up on the results? Just curious, thanks.
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Well, it really depends on what they are looking for in your bloodwork. If you get routine bloodwork run for your doctor they won't find anything because they won't be looking for known drug metabolites.

On the other hand, if they are searching for drugs they will probably find morphine and codeine for sure. Most of the other alkaloids present (noscapine, thebaine, etc.) are not known drugs of abuse so they won't bother to look for them and therefore they will not show up on a screening. I'm sure they COULD be found if someone really wanted to, but it just wouldn't make sense to look for them.
 
Karma1981 said:
I haven't seen this question before, so here it goes. I find that just downing the poppy grounds provides a stronger high then the tea. The only reason I don't do this on a regular basis is I am unsure of the safety of this. Meaning, how clean are they? I doubt they are grown and handled like food like fruit. If you wash them off you have to wait for them to dry before grinding etc.. Any advise?
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If you really are concerned, then I think wiping them off with a moist paper towel or something would help to clean them off. Other than that, the only option would be to wash them. I personally have been making poppy tea since the summer of '08 and I never wash them. I just carefully inspect for mold - no signs of mold and in the grinder they go.

I have made PPT probably hundreds of times and I can only remember getting sick a handful of times (probably less than 10 in my year long sprint) and I usually attributed it to not inspecting the poppies closely enough for mold. So IME they are relatively safe. Then again, being dependent probably has made me more careless with the pods. It's kind of different when you NEED them just to feel like a human being - most cautions and concerns go out the window.
 
so i quit poppy tea like i wrote about before in this thread and for some reason i didn't really get any strong symptoms even after ~3 months of daily use 6xxls and 5 month before that few times a week use 3xxls. the first few days i took 30mg klonopin in all and some alcohol and i don't remember much but after that i felt fine. it's weird because i thought i would get w/d for sure but i didn't. anyone know why? thanks!
 
Has anyone ever tried Papaver setigerum, the "other" opium poppy? The one that is supposedly still legal?
 
zrawdog said:
so i quit poppy tea like i wrote about before in this thread and for some reason i didn't really get any strong symptoms even after ~3 months of daily use 6xxls and 5 month before that few times a week use 3xxls. the first few days i took 30mg klonopin in all and some alcohol and i don't remember much but after that i felt fine. it's weird because i thought i would get w/d for sure but i didn't. anyone know why? thanks!
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Maybe it was minor and the klonopin helped to take the edge off for the worst of it? Or maybe you've been keeping busy? There's no real way to answer this, I mean it could be a million things. Maybe your pods were just weak, or maybe you just got a lucky break (some people have reported "Free passes" every now and again where they expect definite WD's but they never come).

All I can say is that I use 5XL's 3 - 4 days out of the week and I withdrawal on my days off. If I go 48 hours without I feel terrible - insomnia and restlessness. I have never had the benefit of having a benzo for the withdrawals. I understand that they are VERY helpful, so maybe that's why you didn't get strong symptoms too.
 
Farfath666 said:
has anyone ever tried bringing pods on an airplane (local flights)?
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I wouldnt chance it. If you do, I would suggest grinding them up into an unrecognizable form after removing the seeds which would be a giveaway. I would also label them as something else.
 
Ok so ever since i've gotten into opiates I've wanted to try ppt. I use to do H bags daily ranging from 2 - 4 bags a day depending on quality sometimes 1.5 would do the trick insuffilated... Never shot up.

I've always enjoyed morphine for the longer effects it would give I could do 80-120mg of that and be good .. 160 would probably be my limit on that.

For that past 3 1/2 months i've been doing nothing but suboxone at 1mg a day.

I know i'm gonna have to stop the suboxone for atleast 24 hrs before dosing maybe gonna try to go a little longer if I can.

My question is me and my girlfriend have about the same tolerance.. I weigh about 155lbs. I know there's no easy way to determine quality of the pods (purchased from a website with poppies in the name so I'm sure they know what they're doing) but what ballpark should I shoot for since I'm gonna have a pretty good tolerance cause of the bupe. We are gonna both drink it at the same time.

We have a blender and a glass tea kettle with a metal strainer built into it so that should work out good with the metal strainer.

I was thinking of starting off 10 pods each what do you guys suggest ?

BTW the pods I got are medium sized.

Thanks
 
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Always test the waters. PPT might give you more nod than other opiates, depending on the pods. Also, it lasts a whole lot longer. Just because its natural doesnt mean its safe either. You actually have more toxic compounds in the PPT than you have in purified opiods. Be safe.

Some people dont like it, but I am a fan of smoking flake.
 
v4lium said:
I've been using the drip-coffee-maker-method for awhile now just because of the convenience of it. IME you have to run it through once, then put the product through it again to get the most out of it. I'm not sure if it loses potency this way, but its always worked for me, so methinks even if it does lose potency it isn't to any significant degree.
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I agree, its pretty simple and straight forward method of brewing it, if u dont wana use a coffee maker, boil some water on the stove top, remove it from the heat and let it cool about 5 minutes, then add your ground up pods. let it brew for 20mins to half an hour and strain out all of the grinds with a screened strainer, or a coffee filter works but have read it may trap in some of the alkaloids in the filter paper... you can use the grinds again at about 3/4 to 1/2 of the original strength...
Have fun but be careful poppy tea like many other drugs can be over powering if not dosed correctly and you CAN overdose...
To me the benefits arent anywhere close to being worth the horrible horrible disgusting taste of the stuff.....YUCK!!
 
How much do the dried poppy pods weigh each? For small, medium sized, and large/extra large, with and without stem? What type have you found to be the most potent on a regular basis?
 
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