Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

[Bojangles69]

could moderate doses of codiene (200mg) a day be enough to taper off a 3-4 pod a day habit?
If I taper down from the 8-10 I use now first?

 

[supermarket]

Okay, I have a question for you all.

Out of curiosity, can anyone compare PPT to Ms Contin?

MS Contin , from my experience - lacks very much for recreational use, when taken orally - and doesn't poduce the effects one is looking for when one compares to oxycontin(oxycodone)

I've read about 10 pages out of this thread, and couldn't find a comparison.

 

[MrClin]

Just made some PST. Took it about 30 mins ago...... It works! I'll admit, I was a bit skeptical.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

could moderate doses of codiene (200mg) a day be enough to taper off a 3-4 pod a day habit?
If I taper down from the 8-10 I use now first?

I would've thought that a 200mg dose of codeine would be enough to suppress the withdrawal symptoms of such a low level habit, but TBH the only way to be able to find out for sure is to try it for yourself!

I would suggest that you try and redose approximately every six hours. Due to codeine's effects of hepatic enzymes, the first 200mg dose is likely to be stronger than subsequent doses, although IMO it should be sufficient to continue to hold you. One trick I would recommend trying is to eat as much food before each dose as this will most likely increase the drug's duration.

Out of curiosity, can anyone compare PPT to Ms Contin?

Well it is pretty similar, although PPT's duration is much longer, probably due to the interaction of other alkaloids present in the plant material.

 

[Farfath666]

i'm sure this has been brought up, but it was the best solution to the horribly painful bowel movements that accompany pod use?

 

[Sentience]

The solution is to drink tons of water. You may not notice that you are chronically dehydrated. Beyond that, using naturally laxative food and avoiding binding foods might help. Cheeseburgers will make it worse. Rice and fruit and nuts is probably going to be less dense and have more soft fiber.


Does anyone have any experience combining PPT with pharms? Which pharms are good to combine with PPT and which ones will lead to over sedation or an overall bad experience?

I mixed PPT with too much codeine once and got scared that I was going to fall asleep and not wake up. I was fine, but it was a bit much and not that enjoyable. Would oxycodone be better since its more simulating? How about morphine or Dilaudid?

And this has probably been asked before, but what about Kratom?

 

[Larson0]

i always mix it with oxycodone. just have to be careful because it will knock you out. when i do this i take half my pod dose and wait till im feeling it, then usually start out with 2 30s. i can do 5 30s no problem though so you just have to take it slow and stop when your feeling good. very easy to overdo it when mixing them i've found.

 

[Sentience]

I definitely dont want to overdo it.

 

[rolls_]

Stick with a stimulating opiod like oxycodone or buprenophine, but even then keep the doses low and titrate your way up so that you don't end up a nodding mess.

 

[syntheticflag]

Just made some PST. Took it about 30 mins ago...... It works! I'll admit, I was a bit skeptical.

It is true that it works, but for me after drinking tea so long my tolerance is too high to notice any thing. I tried using the seeds I collected from my dried pods, nothing really happened although it took away my sneezing and cold chills when I was having W/D.

 

[Pillmatic502]

Is there away to Extact powder

Anyone know a way to extract powder out of Poppy Pod tea so I dont have to drink tea if I wanna use pods.... I'd prefer having a big bag of opium dust, then a big ass bottle of liquid...

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

let it sit there for a while until all the water dissolves and your left with just the residue from the pods.

 

[PetSMiLE]

Question about dried pods online...

I guess there is no set answer for this but I have always assumed that dry pods being sold by vendors online were milked X times before finally being dried and sold. Obviously it is illegal to milk the pods but what are the chances some vendors DO NOT milk them before drying/selling??

It goes without being said that any vendor who does not milk the pods at all before drying and selling is going to have much more potent pods than milked ones. I would imagine the difference to be pretty substantial.

 

[ech0s85]

poppies.org

 

[Jabberwocky]

merge

 

[Bojangles69]

I guess there is no set answer for this but I have always assumed that dry pods being sold by vendors online were milked X times before finally being dried and sold. Obviously it is illegal to milk the pods but what are the chances some vendors DO NOT milk them before drying/selling??

It goes without being said that any vendor who does not milk the pods at all before drying and selling is going to have much more potent pods than milked ones. I would imagine the difference to be pretty substantial.

No way will you see a single vendor doing that, not sure where you even got the idea.
For 2 very important reasons.

1) Vendors are ALREADY skiing on the thin side of the law, 99% of them know this and the LAST thing you will see a vendor do is even refer to poppies outside of the realm of crafting, nevermind actually milking the pods themselves. Most vendors are too nervous to even say the word "poppy tea" nevermind incriminating themselves to that level. It just doesn't make sense. These are people with fairly large operations, they know they are prob being watched by *someone (who knows who) but I couldn't see an established vendor even considering something like that.. or maybe its denial talking but I still wouldn't buy it.

2) If vendors did premilk the pods, who in the world is going to buy them? Can you say bye bye business? If I get *2* orders in a row of dimished quality Im forced to switch vendors so I don't go into wds. If they were milking their pods they wouldn't even have a business to begin. I just dont think it would be feasible to be done in anway.. too much at risk really. Again this is all jmo.

 

[Bojangles69]

Okay, I have a question for you all.

Out of curiosity, can anyone compare PPT to Ms Contin?

MS Contin , from my experience - lacks very much for recreational use, when taken orally - and doesn't poduce the effects one is looking for when one compares to oxycontin(oxycodone)

I've read about 10 pages out of this thread, and couldn't find a comparison.

In my personal experience, PPT tea is MUCH stronger then MS Contin. I have taken up to 240mg of Ms Contin and found the effects to be maybe 30-40% what I'd get from a strong cup of tea.

Ms Contin is good basically the first 2-3 times you use it (not even that good), afterwards the tolerance begins so fast anything you enjoyed about it is gone. PPT has enough alkaloids to somewhat slow this process of tolerance (although it does still happen) and the sum alkaloids/synergistic affect is just wayy stronger.

Even if you're getting less morphine from the pods, I still say w/e else is in them is making it A LOT stronger, if even in lesser amounts. You can see the similarities taken them both, but morphine by itself really just sucks imo.

 

[Bojangles69]

You'd be surprised how much you can cut you dose and still not get sick yet still catch a slight buzz. I went from doing 20 down to 12 with no real problems except that exceptional warmth and contentment that comes with an opiate high. I have my own reasons for cutting down and eventually weening off, I'm preparing to become an EMT and it wouldn't be cool to be nodding with somebody's life in your hands. That and the inevitable drug test for the job Hopefully with any luck I can stay at 12 awhile then cut it down to 6 and rinse and repeat. I do find you have to dose more often though, at least at first before minor WD's set in.

Absolutely agree 100%.

I cut my dose once from 60gms to 30gms and didn't experience and wds. The high wasn't as apparent obviously but you can still tell its in your blood.

One time however I did switch from an avg 80gm dose (was taking it a couple weeks) and dropped down to the same (30gms) and I did however experience minor wds. Like hot flashes, a bit of anxiety, but it went away in a few days as my body upregulated receptors to adjust to the lower dose. Most of the time though if you're taking an ample dose, it can be cut completely in half w/out going into wds. Anything more then that I think it pushing it. Untill you get to low doses then of course intervals become smaller and smaller.

 

[Bojangles69]

i'm sure this has been brought up, but it was the best solution to the horribly painful bowel movements that accompany pod use?

1 word - "fiber".

And make sure anytime you take fiber you drink lots of water with it because fiber LOVES water, so it can actually dehydrate you if you take fiber w/out water AND make your bowels worse.

Water always must be taken with fiber. If you do that the pain will get a lot better trust me.

 

[Bojangles69]

I would've thought that a 200mg dose of codeine would be enough to suppress the withdrawal symptoms of such a low level habit, but TBH the only way to be able to find out for sure is to try it for yourself!

I would suggest that you try and redose approximately every six hours. Due to codeine's effects of hepatic enzymes, the first 200mg dose is likely to be stronger than subsequent doses, although IMO it should be sufficient to continue to hold you. One trick I would recommend trying is to eat as much food before each dose as this will most likely increase the drug's duration.

Out of curiosity, can anyone compare PPT to Ms Contin?

Well it is pretty similar, although PPT's duration is much longer, probably due to the interaction of other alkaloids present in the plant material.

Thanks I have been wondering about this for a long time because as common sensical as it is, I really don't see a lot of people using codiene to come off pods.

The way I see it, the codiene will break down into morphine in your body and keep the same receptors occupied so I don't see why it wouldn't work.

And I remember one time (last year) I had a delay on a pod shipment, wound up finding some codiene (it was around 200mg worth) I had took it and actually felt a fairly strong high when I should have been just starting wds. I never got to try it on an extended time line but I will now soon. I am however gonna get some Kratom with the codiene just encase I need a little more appeasment of my opiate receptors.
But I'm gonna try solo with the codiene first, thanks! Its gotta be better then tram because coming of codiene is a joke, ultram however not so fun at all..