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I found arctic synergy to be different compared to gold and diamond. The effects are more intense, more heady, less mongy, although shorter lasting it's a lot better. Probably a different cannabanoid.
 
Found this on Wikipedia:

Apparently, it was recently discovered in "Spice Gold" products in the United States. Over 100 pounds of material was found, but due to the high potency, only a small amount by weight was seized. This is possibly the first siezure of HU-210 in the US. Earlier, European tests have found Spice Gold to contain JWH-018, which independent analysis in the US has also found. This indicates that the manufacturer is lacing the material with various cannabinoids, possibly switching between them at will.

Interesting, wonder if they really switch between the two.
 
If the melatonin release that pot gives is replicated by these other CB agonists (not really sure bout this), melatonin at that dose is 99.9% anti-oxidant on cells in tests.

Funny how theres a seizure in the US, i can never make any sense of their law, they seem to just apply it at will. These chemicals should be legal almost everywhere. Is marinol legal there?

What about endocannabinoids? If u bump ur knee while crossing the border do you get done for importing cannabis analogues ;P

Yeah, the land of the free, where they make up their law as they go!

All the while the big pharma companies play with stuff exactly like illegal drugs because of a few nice handshakes.

And will obama be any better or is it a draconian attitude of the people that gradually pushes you closer to drug war induced methamphetamine hell?
 
Dcud53 said:
Found this on Wikipedia:

Apparently, it was recently discovered in "Spice Gold" products in the United States. Over 100 pounds of material was found, but due to the high potency, only a small amount by weight was seized. This is possibly the first siezure of HU-210 in the US. Earlier, European tests have found Spice Gold to contain JWH-018, which independent analysis in the US has also found. This indicates that the manufacturer is lacing the material with various cannabinoids, possibly switching between them at will.

Interesting, wonder if they really switch between the two.
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Wow, first time something I've written has shown up on Bluelight...

I really should document my claims though.
 
Just to chime in.

I posted a thread about this somewhere else but i've experienced Akathisia from the combination of low dose D-AMP and Spice diamond and then replicated the effect two other times. Im well experienced with dexedrine and this is definetly not a side effect of it alone. It'll be interesting to see what the actual mode of action is for JWH-018 and why it would cause a side efffect similar to that of a neuroleptic.
 
HU-210 looks very similar to THC, would it not qualify as an analog? I'm interesting the psyche deli allowed it to be released with the risk it would pose for US customers, its also interesting because prior to this discovery people thought Spice only contained indole based cannabinoids, so whoever seized the Spice did so illegally, am i wrong?
 
US Customs & Border Patrol seized the Spice. They have every right to inspect the contents of and do analytical testing on just about anything that crosses the border.

Initial reports were that Psyche Deli did not want their products shipped to the US because they would not be legal there.

HU-210 is considered Schedule I by the CBP.
 
^ The same products have also been analysed by a company specialising in cannabinoid research........using methods that found a result that had escaped all previous analysis.....

I dont trust the fda "result" one bit personally - even if it was an independant research group, all results demand replication...its called science.
 
^Google's translation for English reader's convenience:
BKA identified the main ingredient

Not herbal essence, not Räuchermischung: In the fashion drug Spice stuck synthetic cannabinoids, so far no laboratory has discovered. It reported the Bundeskriminalamt - and warns again before overdosing and addiction.

Fashion Spice drug is stronger and even more unpredictable than marijuana and hashish effect. The drug contains as the main ingredient is the synthetic cannabinoid CP-47497 ", as the Federal Criminal Police Office in Wiesbaden on Monday announced. This substance resembles the main ingredient of the cannabis plant, THC, but have a lot higher pharmacological potency.

So far mostly as a sole active ingredient called Spice substance "JWH-018" was in joint investigations of BKA and the University of Freiburg Institute of Legal Medicine, only in some samples in low concentrations have been found, investigators said. Only in other Spice-like herb mixtures was "JWH-018" as the main ingredient has been included. SPIEGEL ONLINE had already last December on the research of a Frankfurt pharmaceutical company reported that JWH-018 was identified.

"The high efficacy of the synthetic cannabinoids, as well as the uneven distribution of active ingredients in the herbal mixtures carry the risk of overdose after smoking Spice and similar products," warned the Bundeskriminalamt. The addictive nature is at least comparable to that of cannabis. In addition, through the combustion process when smoking and redeployment of the substances in the body of potentially toxic and carcinogenic products are formed.

With current tests can not be verified
The federal government had already announced the end of December, production, trade and possession of drug ban fashion. Previously, this was already in Switzerland and the Netherlands. According to the Federal Drug Officers Bätzing will Sabine Federal Health Minister Ulla Schmidt (SPD) a Eilverordnung Narcotics Act to sign. "This is Spice from circulation," said Bätzing. Bundestag and the Bundesrat must be within one year a long-term ban on the launch.

Officially, Spice as "Räuchermischung to Beduften of spaces traded. On the Internet and in so-called head shops, finds it hot cakes.

The effect of Spice is euphoria and enthemmend first, then as müdemachend described. Consumers are ultimately "zugedröhnt". With the current drug testing Spice is not detectable.
The Federal Institute for Risk Assessment was initially not able to explain why it is similar to a glittering effect comes when the smoke inhaled by Spice. Because it took place in the shiny metallic bags a "mixture of eight different plants" with picturesque names like lion's tail Siberian, Indian Warrior or blue lotus flower.
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I'm not sure if anyone has noticed this but anyways...

I accidentally saw a vial that had contained a solution of JWH-018 dissolved in acetone under a blacklight and it seemed to glow quite visibly. After this I tested if the powder itself would be fluoroscent and it was glowing visibly as well!

An interesting note I'd say. I would like to hear if this is the case with other supposed JWH-018 powders.

This might be a simple test to verify the substance in some circumstances.
 
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I'm not surprised as many hydrocarbon glows in black light, especially ones with aromatic rings or conjugate pi system. Which JWH's all have!

But nice observation anyway :)
 
JWH-018 solubility

Is JWH-018 water, fat or alcohol soluble? Which one works best, and what temperatures should I avoid while doing an extraction?

Why am I asking: I'm thinking of making Smoke / Genie / any other blend tea or hot chocolate. Would be nice to drink such drink in the evening. I tried Spice Diamond + Smoke 50:50, used about 4 pinches. Four hours of waiting, just to experience a fully blazed, almost psychedelic experience. Diamond is not good. I want to try it with pure Smoke or Genie, as they are the best. Some report 2-3h onset and 6-7 hours of fun, when used as tea.
Will try it and report.
 
FriendlyToker said:
Is JWH-018 water, fat or alcohol soluble?
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both alcohol and fat soluble.
Which one works best, and what temperatures should I avoid while doing an extraction?
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high ones.

cmon this is not advanced, there is already at least on thread on solubility,

there is a whole pile of shit in spice and genie and the others which will also be extracted.
 
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